GROWTH MINDSET AND THE VALUE OF READING ALOUD; ONE AUTHOR’S JOURNEY: FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CINDY WILLIAMS SCHRAUBEN, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT AUTHOR AND LITERARY BLOGGER, CHELSEA DICICCO

In today’s Feature Interview, I’m chatting with Cindy Williams Schrauben about growth mindset and the value of reading aloud. We’ll also discuss ways to put yourself out there as an author and share personal experiences of the author journey.


Cindy, it’s my pleasure to welcome you to the Feature Interview guest series. Could you tell us where you’re joining us from today?

Hi Chelsea. Thanks for having me. West Michigan.

How did you hear about the Feature Interview series, and what made you want to apply?

I follow you online and admire your content. 

Could you tell us what kind of books you write? (Age group and genre).

I have written books for children, including picture books and a middle-grade novel, which is in the works. I will also be venturing into the adult novelty book market soon. 

When did you first begin your writing journey, and what did those beginning stages look like for you?

I jumped into the journey with both feet when my daughters left for college. It was time to challenge myself. It took nearly 8 years of studying, attending conferences and classes, and penning several manuscripts before I was able to realize my life-long dream of publishing a picture book.

What are some of the challenges you’ve faced on your author journey, and how were you able to stay the course?

The challenges were many, but I think the hardest part was believing in myself enough to ‘stay the course’ as you say. The key for me was getting involved in the kidlit community – joining critique groups, reading about other authors’ journeys, entering contests and challenges, etc. These connections gave me courage and helped me to manage my expectations. 

What have been some of your greatest joys and highlights in publishing?

There are so many – receiving a book deal, seeing the illustrations for the first time, getting a starred review from Kirkus, etc. I am also looking forward to an upcoming visit to a children’s hospital to read to some brave kids. I also love encouraging aspiring authors, but the best part continues to be sharing my love for books with kids. 

When would you say it’s “too late” to pursue publishing?

Never! My first book was published just after my 63rd birthday, and I don’t plan to stop anytime soon. 

Why would you say it’s beneficial as an author to put yourself out there? And what are some different ways/examples of doing this?

It can be exhausting, but publishing a book isn’t enough if no one sees it. Interviews such as this, blog tours, giveaways, social media posts, in-person events, etc all help with visibility. It is hard, though, because there needs to be a balance between self-promotion and providing valuable content. I try to follow the 80/20 Rule – 80% content for authors or parents/teachers (such as the social media post below) and 20% book promotion. For content, I have chosen to concentrate on the topics of Growth Mindset and Social-Emotional Learning. 

What kind of author events have you been a part of locally or otherwise, and how did you go about setting up these events? Did your publisher/marketing team reach out? Did you reach out? Was contact made via phone/email,/in-person?

I attend and/or organize events on a regular basis, ranging from book festivals, bookstore signings, school visits, launch parties, local media appearances, podcasts, etc. I was responsible for setting up most of these on my own (usually via email). I have three tips. First – go where the kids are instead of hoping they will come to you. I held the launch event for my first book, THIS COULD BE YOU, at a children’s museum on a busy Saturday. Over a hundred kids were already visiting the museum that day, so my audience was ready-made. That leads to tip number two – just ask! The museum was a dream location, and I never expected it to come to fruition, but the staff was excited to bring a unique opportunity to their visitors. The third tip is this– don’t be discouraged when you plan an event, and no one shows. It has happened to all of us. Evaluate the situation and improve your processes for next time. I also encourage other authors to think beyond your book in order to offer great programs for your community. I recently partnered with a local elementary school to break a Kid’s World Record entitled “The Most Children Sharing Handmade Hearts.” Though this event matched the theme of my second book, HANK’S CHANGE OF HEART, the day was about celebrating kindness rather than the book specifically. It was great fun and happened just because I asked (Tip #2, again.)

We’d love to hear about some of your author events and experiences and see some photos if you would like to share a few! 

When reading over your bio, I loved how you described your books as being books to “inspire kids to live their best lives.” Could you elaborate on what this means to you?

Sure! Encouraging kids to love books and reading is, of course, a big part of my journey, but it goes further. Both of my books have a social-emotional learning foundation. I am a firm believer that books can provide learning opportunities without being preachy. HANK’S CHANGE OF HEART applauds kindness and sharing, while THIS COULD BE YOU empowers children with a growth mindset by persuading them to believe in themselves. 

Let’s talk a little bit about growth mindset for home and in the classroom. In your application, you expressed your passion for empowering parents and children with a growth mindset and inspiring them to learn from each other as they go. Can you talk a little bit more about how you do this?

Growth Mindset is a term coined by Dr. Carol Dweck from Stanford University. Her research shows us that we can develop our abilities through dedication and hard work and that failure helps us to learn and improve. I love to talk with kids about famous people who have achieved great things after facing years of defeat. By understanding the power of a growth mindset, adults can make a huge difference in the lives of children. It is often as simple as changing our vocabulary. For example, “I can’t do it” vs. “It didn’t work, yet, but I’m still trying.”

LINK TO GM EXAMPLES: https://cindyschrauben.com/growth-mindset/

I know you also have a collection of growth mindset activities and educator guides. I’d love to add a link to those for readers to have access to on Teacher Corner as well!

LINK TO READER GUIDES.

HANK: https://cindyschrauben.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Hank-Reader-Guide.pdf

THIS COULD BE YOU:

While we’re on the classroom side of things, could you talk a little bit about reading aloud and its value?

There is a great deal of research out there to support the value of reading to kids. The advantages range from improving a child’s own reading abilities and listening skills, expanding their vocabularies and language skills, to fostering bonds. A statistic that always amazes me is this one from the Child Mind Institute: “… young children whose parents read to them daily have been exposed to at least 290,000 more words by the time they enter kindergarten than kids who aren’t read to regularly. And depending on how much daily reading time kids get, that number can go up to over a million words.”

Now, for our writers out there, could you tell us a little bit about mentor texts? What are they? How do you use them? How can they be helpful?

Mentor texts are valuable for writers in a number of ways, ranging from learning about the industry and what is being published to honing our own craft and revising. There is nothing more helpful, in my mind, than reading the work of other children’s book authors and asking, what works? What doesn’t? Why? And how can I apply that to my own work?

Is there any particular book/author that inspires/inspired you to write?

I have always been enamored by rhymers like Dr. Seuss and Shel Silverstein. I love to write in rhyme – it’s like a puzzle. 

What advice would you like to offer writers who are just beginning their publishing journey?

Don’t give up. The journey can be long and hard, but it is worth every moment. I have a YouTube Podcast to encourage authors. You can take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/@Cindy-Williams-Schrauben 

Thank you so much for joining us today, Cindy! And now it’s time for our FIRST giveaway pool of the year.

GIVEAWAY
This month, Cindy is offering an AMA Zoom. (two winners)

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AUTHOR BIO + HEADSHOT + WEBSITE

Cindy Williams Schrauben lives in West Michigan, where she writes books for children that range from the truly serious to the seriously silly. When not writing or sharing her books, this award-winning author might be found dissecting her grandsons’ shenanigans for story ideas, reading on the beach, or eating ice cream… ideally all at once. Her books, THIS COULD BE YOU (starred review from Kirkus) and HANK’S CHANGE OF HEART, inspire kids to live their best lives. You can connect with Cindy at http://www.cindyschrauben.com.

SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2025 FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH READING SPECIALIST, LITERACY COACH, AND KIDLIT AUTHOR, CHRISTINA SHAWN, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & FORMER LIBRARIAN, CHELSEA DICICCO: HOW TO WRITE STORIES THAT MAKE YOUNG READERS FEEL SEEN, HEARD, AND UNDERSTOOD

In today’s Feature Interview, I’m chatting with reading specialist, literacy coach, and kidlit author, Christina Shawn! We’ll be discussing ways to create confident readers and how to write stories that resonate with kids while capturing the magical moments in everyday life.

Christina, it’s so wonderful to have you with us today. Can you share with our readers where you’re joining us from?

Hi Chelsea. I am thrilled to be here. I am joining in from my home in Richmond, Virginia.

I was thrilled to see your application come in last year for the 2025 Feature Interview lineup, and have been warmly anticipating our conversation. Could you share how you found out about the Feature Interview segment and what made you want to apply?

I first became familiar with you through your social media presence on (I think) Twitter / X. I could relate to so much of what you shared, and I found you to be so supportive of the writing community. Plus, you had me at “World of Books!” From there, I began reading your thoughtful and thorough interviews.

I loved reading about your connection to the world of literacy, not only as a writer, but also as a reading specialist and literacy coach. Can you tell us more about this? What ages do you primarily work with? Is it independent, or do you work with a school and/or another organization? 

I love to teach reading. I began teaching middle school reading and then became a literacy coach in public preschool classrooms through a grant system that supported teachers and students with materials, classes, and coaching. I learned so much and felt like we were all making a big difference. Then, when I was staying home, raising my children, I began writing children’s books. I love that now, the books allow me to go back into the classroom and work with teachers, students, and parents to once again build literacy skills. Oftentimes, parents don’t realize how much they are already doing to help grow readers, and I love sharing easy-to-apply tips and tricks with them. I love working with children in the classroom in small groups and with full auditoriums. I feel like the timing is just right to bring all of these elements together to once again try to make a difference through early literacy. 

How did you wind up in the world of kidlit publishing? 

When my children were little, I was implementing much of what I knew about literacy into our everyday lives, and part of that was reading a ton of books and making up songs and stories for them. Eventually, I think my brain just began thinking that way, and one idea turned into my first (self-published) book, LUCAS PLAYS. After working on that project, I realized how much I love unpuzzling words and creating meaningful and entertaining stories. I wanted more. So I began taking classes, and I joined writing communities like SCBWI and 12×12.

What kind of work were you doing prior to writing, and/or are you still doing now?

Writing has always been at least a small part of my work. I was a middle school English Teacher / Reading Specialist, Literacy Coach, and, before that, I was the Community Relations Manager for Barnes & Noble. 

We’d love to hear more about your publishing journey! When did your writing begin? 

I wrote my first picture book, LUCAS PLAYS, in 2016 and self-published it for my family. During that process, I did a lot of research about self-publishing vs. traditional publishing. Ultimately, I didn’t want to wait to see this book, and I only had the one manuscript, so I self-published. But once it was out in the world, and I was able to go back into classrooms to share it, I was hooked. I wanted to do more, so I signed up for a local writing class, joined 12×12, and dove headfirst into the kidlit world.

What genres and age groups do you write for? And how do they differ from each other?

Picture books are my sweet spot. All of my published and pre-published books are for a target age of 3-6. I also have an early reader series for 5-8 year olds that is on sub (and this really appeals to my reading specialist heart), so I hope it gets published one day. 

I am also working on two mid-grade novels that are far more time-consuming and adventurous for me. But I love them both dearly. 

Like me, your publishing journey started on the indie side of things, prior to traditional publishing, with the publication of your first book, PB, Lucas Plays. Since you have experience on both sides of this publishing terrain, could you share a little with our readers about what the differences between the two have been? Traditional VS. Indie, representation vs. no representation, and the pros and cons of both?

Absolutely! I love that I have experience with both Traditional and Indie publishing. Indie publishing is definitely faster, and the author has more creative control. Traditional publishing takes TIME and patience, and often agents, publishers, artists, editorial teams, and marketing teams that are also working on lots of other projects. The reach of traditional publishing has been wider for me, though. When AND THEN CAME YOU was published (traditionally), it stirred a renewed interest in LUCAS PLAYS as well, so that was a really nice bonus.

After publishing independently, what made you decide to pursue traditional publishing? Explain.

Once I decided to write more books, I wrote a LOT of manuscripts. So I wanted an agent who could represent a full body of work and become a career partner. I wanted the experience of publishing with multiple publishing houses and building relationships with editors and artists. I really like being part of a team.

Now, you’re represented by Liz Nealon at Great Dog Literary. And you have a new book that just hit the shelves this year, and another on its way in the fall of 2026. What an exciting time! But before we get into that, could you share how you found your agent match?

Yes! It is a really exciting time! Connecting with Liz Nealon was one of those perfect timing moments. I had been in the query trenches for a while but had never queried her before (I think she had been closed to queries) but my friend, who she represented, thought we’d be a good fit and connected us, so when I received the publication offer for NO LOVE POTION through a Twitter / X pitch I took a chance and reached out to Liz. We hit it off immediately, and the rest is history. Liz is an amazing agent. She is thorough, professional, kind, experienced, and so smart. 

For readers who are not yet at this step in their journey but are actively pursuing representation, could you walk us through your agent call? 

Liz set up a call after reading my submitted manuscript. Then she requested more, and we set up a second call. On our calls, we talked about my specific manuscripts as well as my big picture goals for my writing career. We discussed my background in children’s literacy and also her background at Sesame Street. (How cool is that?) I was surprised and delighted by the parts of my writing that Liz felt drawn to, and I knew that not only were we on the same page, but this partnership could be a really special one. 

What made Liz stand out to you as someone who was the right fit for you/your project?

Honestly, she loved my least commercial manuscript the most. The one that had the most personal risk in it. I knew she saw me. And if she loved that story along with my “safer” manuscripts, then she understood me and my writing goals. I trusted her immediately and continue to feel safe and confident with her representing my work. 

For our readers who may be anxious about the call, what advice do you have?

Be your whole, honest self. It is often our quirks that help us know if we are a good fit or not. Respect yourself and your work enough to choose only the best person for you, and trust your gut.

Are there any specific questions you suggest asking an agent on the call? These could be questions you asked, or questions you wish you had asked!

How do you prefer to communicate? Some agents call, email, or text. Some don’t communicate much at all. Some keep shared Google Sheets of all your subs, some email updates, and some only update once a month or with “good” news. I think it’s important to see if your communication styles are compatible and ask for what you need in order to feel good about your partnership.

Now let’s talk about debuts! As you know, debuting authors have a LOT going on. Could you share a little bit about your exciting year and the time leading up to it? What kind of things did you do to prepare for your big book debuts? Have you been able to participate in any in-person/virtual author events for local vendors, libraries, schools, bookstores, and other organizations?

During the 4.5 years between the publication offer and the publication, I thought about this release a LOT. I added interviews (like this one), podcasts, and announcements to my calendar. I was even on the local news! (You can find links for them on my website and Linktree.) I booked school events, in-person bookstore events, and even a presentation with the Virginia Association for the Education of Young Children. On the day my book released, I hosted a launch party for my friends and family and relished in the celebration with my loved ones. The launch of AND THEN CAME YOU feels huge to me. It is the first traditionally published book of mine, and there are more to come. It feels like the start of something really special.

What have been some of the biggest publishing surprises? 

Probably the best surprise was when Chronicle Books asked me to do a signing at ALA 2025 with Rebecca Stead!!! 

What’s something you know now that you didn’t know before, and wish you had known sooner?

The way your book is coded in the system dictates whether bookstores will stock it. There is little we can do to control these codes.

What are some writing tips/resources that have helped you? This could be organizations/events/contests/etc. 

My critique partners and writing friends are so important to me. I grow as a writer when we critique each other’s work and when we brainstorm together. They are also the absolute best support on this publishing rollercoaster. 

I also LOVE contests. They are a fun and low-pressure way to push my creativity with almost immediate opportunities to share my work and read my friends’ and colleagues’ entries.

Fun fact: My next picture book, NO LOVE POTION (The Little Press, Fall 2026), began as a contest entry.

Let’s talk about the writing! You mentioned in your application that you enjoy writing stories that capture the magical moments of everyday life. Can you tell us more about this? 

I write to process what I feel and to create new worlds and characters because it is so much fun. I don’t usually have a plan. Once I step into that creative space, the story guides me. I find that what is most magical to me is leaning into the everyday. How each blade of grass is a different green, or how the scent of the air is different before it rains. How a person can feel two (or more) feelings at once (and how that’s okay). And how love looks and feels different from every angle. 

I really love the way you described writing stories that make kids feel seen, heard, and understood. Can you share some of the ways that you’re able to do this?

I was a really BIG feeling kid, and I could not make sense out of all that I seemed to know without being told it was true. In fact, I was often told that what I observed or felt was not true, and this confused me as a child. It confuses me a bit as an adult too, but much less. I liked books with complicated emotions and messy characters. I like to write those books now. I want to honor the kids who are trying to figure out the world around them and let them know they are not alone. 

Speaking as a writer and literacy coach, what are some tips for creating confident readers? How can we offer kids aid and build up that confidence?

I could talk all day about this! I’m actually presenting a workshop for parents this fall on exactly this. I like to help parents and teachers notice the ways they are already supporting literacy (often without even realizing it) and help them to be intentional about it. There are so many ways to incorporate early reading skills into everyday life. Just a few examples are sorting socks (yes, socks) or utensils. Sorting letters. Helping children know the letters in their names and then finding them in book titles. Pointing to letters. Pointing to words. Explicitly noticing rhyme as words that “sound the same at the end.”

Let’s talk writing craft, specifically, rhyme! I’d love to hear more about predictive rhyme in picture books and how that fosters early reading skills.

The human ear naturally LIKES rhyme. It processes and retains rhyming words more easily and even believes them to be more TRUE! Isn’t that wild? When we read rhyme aloud, our listeners’ brains become attentive. They absorb skills and information like a sponge. Telling children what rhymes are words that “sound the same at the end” and helping them to identify and create them is a fantastic early reading skill. When predictive rhymes are altered (like with the surprise page turns in AND THEN CAME YOU), it becomes a fun, engaging learning game. 

For some of our very new writers, who may be passionate about writing books for kids but are still uncertain of how to do it, could you shed a little light on page turns? For this question, I’m primarily thinking in terms of picture books!

I love a good page turn!  Page turns can create surprise, humor, anticipation, and suspense that drive the story forward and encourage the reader to turn the page. I love a big reveal or something unexpected in a page turn. AND THEN CAME YOU was so much fun to write because children expect a predictive rhyme, but are surprised to find an unexpected word instead.

I love the themes of your writing, Christina. For our readers who may not be familiar with your books, would you share a brief description of what your stories are about and what the takeaway or “theme” of them is?

My husband jokes that I love to write about LOVE. He’s not wrong. Some common themes in my books are LOVE, CHANGE, ACCEPTANCE, CHOICE, and GROWTH. 

AND THEN CAME YOU (Chronicle Books, Spring 2025): When families grow, love grows too…even when change is scary.

NO LOVE POTION (The Little Press, Fall 2026): Making room in your heart for love (even if it seems icky) feels pretty magical.

NO HATS ALLOWED (Sleeping Bear Press, Fall 2027): Fair doesn’t always mean equal; that’s why it’s important to have a choice. Plus, cats look really cute in hats. 

(NEW BOOK COMING in Spring 2027) All about patience, growth, and love.

What is your reason for writing? And what do you hope to leave each reader with?

I like readers to laugh and cry. I want them to feel and connect. And to think that at least one part of the book is kind of weird. I want my readers to feel seen, heard, and understood. I want them to want to read these books again and again. 

Any last words of advice for fellow writers out there, looking to share their stories with the world?

Sometimes it’s hard to believe that this fun, magical, creative job is also important and necessary, but I promise you,  it is. What we create feeds our souls and spreads light out into the world through humor, connection, inspiration, and creativity. We must keep making our art and know it matters.

Thank you so much for joining us, Christina. It’s been wonderful to connect with you!

Pssst! Note to readers: Christina has just recently developed a presentation for VAAEYC on how rhyming picture books can be used to build early literacy skills during read-alouds. Some of these materials, as well as coinciding lesson plans for her book, And Then Came You, will be available for free download on Teacher Corner. Christina also offers critique services through her website https://www.christinashawn.com

And now it’s time for a GIVEAWAY!

GIVEAWAY

Christina is offering a choice of ONE of two prizes to one winner. Prize options: a fiction picture book manuscript critique or a 30-minute AMA.

HOW TO ENTER THE GIVEAWAY

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CHRISTINA SHAWN BIO & CONNECT

Christina Shawn is a reading specialist, literacy coach, and author who writes about magical moments in our everyday lives. She lives in Richmond, Virginia, with her husband, three kiddos, and two fluffy bunnies, who provide a constant supply of support, humor, and inspiration. Christina loves yoga, beach bike rides, mountain hikes, and adventuring to new places. Mostly, she loves the spark of learning something new and passing it along.

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DECEMBER 4TH, 2024 FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR EMMA PEARL, CONDUCTED BY CHILDREN’S BOOK WRITER, BLOGGER, AND FORMER LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

In today’s feature interview, I’m talking with children’s author Emma Pearl about exciting ways of breaking into the kidlit market. Emma shares how she got her first book deal through a Twitter/X pitch event and shares tips for other creators on ways/places to go to participate and put themselves out there!

But before we jump in… here are a few things to know about feature interviews.

THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?

Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.

Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.

What can these interviews offer YOU?

These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:

  • stay current with market trends
  • hook an agent or editor
  • find writing community & other resources
  • discover workshops, contests, and other events
  • figure out which path of publication is right for you
  • know if your agent is a good match

And more!

AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month! *If you’re interested in entering the giveaway, scroll to the bottom of the interview for instructions.*

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

INTRODUCTIONS AND EARLY BEGINNINGS

Emma, it’s such a treat to have you joining us today! I share your sentiment that all journeys to publication are unique and interesting, and yours is certainly an inspirational one. I can’t wait to dive into the story of your publication. I’d love to start our interview today back at the beginning.

What was your beginning inspiration for joining the world of kidlit?


I’ve always loved reading and writing and have had a lifelong affinity with children’s literature. Stories can be so magical and transformative for young people – a place to escape, to explore yourself and your place in the world, to discover endless possibilities. I’m not sure there was a ‘beginning’; it’s just always been a passion of mine.

Have you always known that you wanted to be a writer, or is it something that you discovered later?

I’ve always known – as soon as I could hold a pencil, I was writing stories, stapling pieces of paper together to make books!

-Same!-

You had a pretty famous family member who also wrote for children. I’ll let you share who that mystery person is! What was that like growing up? And did their writing legacy influence you and your desire to write for kids?

Roald Dahl was my great-uncle, and I think it’s probably not a stretch to say that his legacy has had a profound influence on many people across the globe, including many children’s authors. He was a huge presence in my early childhood – a kind of magnetic, charismatic, mystical, and sometimes slightly intimidating locus of energy. Being at his house was always hugely exciting and a little scary – whether he was taking us on walks up to the woods and telling stories about the Witching Tree that grew there, showing us his giant greenhouse full of exotic and mysterious plants, letting us play in his Danny the Champion of the World caravan, or threatening to chuck all the children in the garbage! Plenty of inspiration for a young imagination.

I have to ask… do you have a favorite of one of your uncle’s books? If so, which and and why?

The Twits is dedicated to me, so that’s naturally a special book for me. But I think my favorite is Matilda – she’s just such an iconic female character. I also feel a personal connection to her, as I believe (although I can’t confirm it 100%) that Miss Trunchbull was at least partly based on one of my teachers!

-Oh my gosh... goosebumps! And yes, Matilda is absolutely brilliant. Also one of my favorites.-

(Learn more on Emma’s website!)

“Roald Dahl was my great-uncle… He was a huge presence in my early childhood – a kind of magnetic, charismatic, mystical, and sometimes slightly intimidating locus of energy.” – Emma Pearl @emmspearl

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Prior to publication, and maybe even still, what kind of work were/are you doing outside of writing, and did that somehow play a role in your journey to entering kidlit publishing?

I’ve worked in all kinds of jobs, from contemporary art to travel to professional regulation. I also worked in kidlit publishing in London for a couple of years in the late '90s, which I loved. I’m not sure these days whether work (i.e. earning a living) and writing kidlit are very closely aligned, sadly.

Speaking of which… it’s time to jump into the when and how!
When and how did your publishing journey begin?


Although I’d been writing stories all my life, my first ‘real’ step into the publishing world was in 2020 when I was selected as a mentee for the WriteMentor mentorship program.

Let’s talk about those first steps as a new writer breaking into the industry. When you decided you wanted to pursue publication professionally, what were your first steps? Did you query agents and/or submit directly to editors?

I didn’t do either to start with – I was far too lacking in confidence! Before I applied for that mentorship, I had spent 4 years learning as much as I could from free resources online and practicing the craft. I also read as much as I possibly could.

Were there any writing groups or organizations that were especially instrumental in helping you in your beginning stages of writing? If so, what were they, and how did they help you?

WriteMentor was an amazing resource. I was a mentee in 2020 with a middle-grade novel, and in 2021 and 22, after I got my book deal, I was a picture book mentor for the same program. I learned as much from being a mentor as I did being a mentee, but the most valuable takeaways from all 3 years were the connections and feeling of community. I think WriteMentor’s tagline is ‘writing can be lonely, but it doesn’t need to be,’ which is so true and perfectly encapsulates what they do as an organization. If you haven’t discovered them yet, I recommend checking them out.

Can you tell us about some of the events and contests that you’ve participated in, which ones you would most recommend to other authors, and why?


There was a time when I would enter every free-to-enter contest and pitch event. It can be good for honing your craft, and obviously, it’s lovely if you get some recognition, but I think, in hindsight, it took a much bigger toll on my creativity and my mental well-being than I realized at the time. It can be very emotionally draining to be in that constant cycle of writing to a brief, submission, hope/excitement, and disappointment/rejection. Pitch events have a similar rollercoaster effect on the emotions. Although let’s face it – that’s what being a writer is all about, so it’s also very good practice!

Pace yourself and don't feel pressured to participate in anything if you haven't the time or headspace to do it well or to handle disappointment.

One of my favorite contests is Vivian Kirkfield’s 50 Precious Words, which not only always has a ton of amazing entries and prizes but also includes a literacy initiative that gets books from an independent bookstore into schools. Everyone wins!

As far as pitch events go, I’m honestly not sure which ones are still going, but one I used to love was Mood Pitch, where you had to post a mood board with your pitch - I’m an absolute sucker for those visual aesthetics!

Speaking of contests… let’s talk book deals and magical moments in publishing!

[Words of wisdom: Writing resource recommendations] “WriteMentor was an amazing resource. I think WriteMentor’s tagline is ‘writing can be lonely, but it doesn’t need to be,’ which is so true and perfectly encapsulates what they do as an organization.” -Emma Pearl

[Words of wisdom: Advice on writing contests + events] “Pace yourself and don’t feel pressured to participate in anything if you haven’t the time or headspace to do it well or to handle disappointment.” – Emma Pearl

[Writing contests + events] “Can be good for honing your craft, and obviously, it’s lovely if you get some recognition, but I think, in hindsight, it took a much bigger toll on my creativity and my mental well-being than I realized at the time. It can be very emotionally draining to be in that constant cycle of writing to a brief, submission, hope/excitement, and disappointment/rejection.” @emmspearl

“WriteMentor was an amazing resource. I was a mentee in 2020 with a middle-grade novel, and in 2021 and 22, after I got my book deal, I was a picture book mentor for the same program. I learned as much from being a mentor as I did being a mentee, but the most valuable takeaways from all 3 years were the connections and feeling of community.” @emmspearl

DREAM COME TRUE: MAGICAL MOMENTS IN PUBLISHING

In your application, you shared a unique experience about how you landed your first book deal. It’s one of those experiences that is a one-off and so exciting to hear about. Would you mind telling our readers about how you landed your first “big break?” I’m sure they’d love to hear about it!

Okay, I got my book deal on Twitter. There, I said it! I know it’s all gone a bit awry since the bird has flown from there, but back in the day, it was a wonderful place to connect with other writers and home to a thriving writing community. I entered every pitch event, and one of those was #PBPitch, for picture books only. I think it was held four times a year, and I did it maybe four or five times. I didn’t get any agent likes, but I received encouraging comments from other writers and enjoyed participating in the community interaction. I had zero expectations for anything else, so it was an incredible surprise when I received a like from the Page Street Kids editor on one of my pitches in October 2020.

I love hearing experiences like this. It’s so hopeful for others. And I can only imagine how exciting this must have been for you! Could you walk us through some of the steps that took place after the Twitter event?


I sent the editor my manuscript straight away, and we went through a few rounds of revisions. By Christmas that year, I had a book deal! It was super exciting! A few minor tweaks were needed after the contract was signed, and then the publisher gave me a long list of potential illustrators and asked for my input. We ended up working with Sara Ugolotti, who did a stunning job of bringing the story to life.

You mentioned in your letter that you didn’t have an agent for your first two book deals. Was this intentional? Did you query agents after receiving your first two book deals? Why or why not?

I hadn’t actually started querying properly at this stage. I received some full requests from agents as a result of the WriteMentor showcase in September 2020, and I sent out a handful of queries around the same time (maybe three or four). Nothing materialized from the showcase in the end, but the pitch event happened, and I got busy (moving from the UK to New Zealand in the middle of the pandemic was a little crazy!), so querying was put on hold for a while.

So now, you do have an agent who represents your young adult work. How did that come about?

I finished writing another novel about a year later and began querying it in February 2022. This time, I was thorough and methodical (and lucky!), and I received an offer from Sera Rivers only 3 months later.

I’m curious about this. Was there a reason you sought representation for young adult but not children’s? Or did it just happen this way by chance?

To be honest, I’ve always been more focused on writing novels than picture books. It just happened that my picture book deal came out of the blue. In 2022, I queried my picture books and my novels but had far more agent interest in the novels despite already having picture books contracted. Every part of kidlit is so fiercely competitive, but I think picture books, possibly most of all.

Since you’ve had the unique experience of both having literary representation and also not having representation when handling book deals, could you share with our readers a little bit about what this process is like on both ends?


I think the process depends very much on the publisher and on the agent – experiences can differ wildly whether you’re represented or not. I was very lucky to have a wonderful editorial experience with Kayla Tostevin at Page Street Kids, and I don’t think that being without an agent for that deal had any negative impact. My agent is also wonderful, and emotionally, it’s great to have her support during the submission process. We haven’t landed a book deal together yet, but she’s been very patient with me this year while I’ve had a bit of a hiatus for personal reasons, and she continues to believe in me and my stories.

If someone was interested in submitting directly to an editor/publisher without having literary representation, what are some essential things they should know beforehand?


Do your research! There are plenty of publishers that accept un-agented submissions, but make sure you know who you’re submitting to (there are many resources online, but one I’ve found to be very useful is the list published by children’s author Bitsy Kemper), and that your story is a good fit with their list. Also, give yourself the best chance by not submitting until your manuscript is really ready, i.e., you have received as much feedback as you can handle, ideally from a supportive critique group, and taken it on board as far as it resonates. Polish that story until it shines!

Are there any recommendations or tips you have for writers who are on the fence about which way to go- to be agented or not to be agented? What are some of the pros/cons or help/freedoms of each?

It’s a very personal decision, so I hesitate to advise on this – what’s right for one person is definitely not right for all, and there is so much variability in publishing. I think most writers starting out would give anything to be published, with or without an agent. It’s wonderful to have an agent supporting and believing in you and also protecting your interests on the contractual side of things, but the traditional publishing route is not without its challenges, and there are certainly opportunities for un-agented writers, too. I would say, whichever path you find yourself on (it’s not always a choice!), give yourself grace and look after your mental health.

ADVICE FOR AUTHORS on traditional publishing without an agent: Do your research! There are plenty of publishers that accept unagented submissions, but make sure you know who you’re submitting to & give yourself the best chance by not submitting until your manuscript is ready!

[Words of wisdom: Choosing routes to publishing:] “What’s right for one person is definitely not right for all, and there is so much variability in publishing… traditional publishing is not without its challenges, and there are certainly opportunities for un-agented writers, too. …Whichever path you find yourself on… give yourself grace and look after your mental health.” -Emma Pearl

HURDLES & HIGHLIGHTS

What are some of the challenges you’ve faced on your publishing journey, and how have you been able to overcome them?

Rejection is the biggest challenge, and I believe that’s the case for all writers, no matter where they are in their publishing journey. It’s constant, relentless, and brutal. I think having an agent helps with this because a) they act as a buffer so the rejections aren’t flying directly into your inbox (I know all agents work differently, but mine has a spreadsheet that I can look at when I choose to), and b) they are a great source of moral support and continue to believe in you no matter how many rejections you rack up!

For creators who may be facing similar struggles, what words of encouragement would you like to share?

Self-care is so important. Remind yourself often that signing with an agent or directly with an editor is a matter of good luck and serendipity as much as anything else, and try not to measure your progress or your self-worth by things that are outside of your control. Find cushions (e.g. collect all the uplifting comments you’ve received about your writing and keep them where you can see them; create a reward system for yourself for achieving your word count goals, submissions, and rejections) and barriers (e.g., create a separate inbox for querying and check it once a week or only when you feel strong) that work for you. Be kind to yourself!

-Such great advice!-

What have been some of the most rewarding, fulfilling, and happy moments of your publishing career so far?

Right now, I’m having an amazing experience – the British International School in Washington, DC, is about to put on a stage performance of Mending the Moon! It’s truly an author's dream come true for me and such a huge honor. Sadly, I won’t be able to see it in person, but I’m waiting with bated breath to see the recording of the performance. This happy event has also brought about another opportunity, as the student who’s playing the main character, Luna, is a budding young writer, and I’m delighted to be helping her hone her skills in a kind of unofficial mini-mentorship. These are honestly the kind of interactions that make being a children’s writer so incredible.

[Words of wisdom: Challenges in publishing + how to overcome them] “Rejection is the biggest challenge, and I believe that’s the case for all writers, no matter where they are in their publishing journey. It’s constant, relentless, and brutal. Self-care is so important. …Try not to measure your progress or your self-worth by things that are outside of your control. … Collect all the uplifting comments you’ve received about your writing and keep them where you can see them… Create a reward system for yourself for achieving your goals… Be kind to yourself!”

WORDS OF WISDOM

If you could share a piece of advice with readers today, publishing or otherwise, what would it be?

The world is a difficult place at the moment and it’s easy to feel powerless, insignificant, overwhelmed and despairing. Focus on the present – what can you do now? What is within your control? All any of us can do is our best, but we can do that in everything we do, even the boring, menial tasks. And be kind – to others, to the planet, and most importantly, to yourself!

BOOKS!

Okay, it’s time for the books. Tell us about your work! What are your books about? What was their inspiration? All the fun details!

What do you hope your readers will gain from your stories?
I hope that readers of all ages will feel a sense of joy and wonder at the magic of nature and maybe feel inspired to follow Luna’s example – not to feel helpless and overwhelmed at the scale of the problems that need fixing, but to just do whatever is within your power to do, however small it may be. On a more personal level, I think it’s a story that parents and grandparents will enjoy reading with their children, and it’s a joy to me to hear when people simply love the story – and the beautiful illustrations, of course.

Have you been able to host any author events either in-person or virtually? If so, where? And what kind of event? We’d love to hear all about it! Pictures are great, too, if you have them!

I’ve done a few library and bookshop events and some school visits. But living in New Zealand makes it all quite difficult. I’ve participated in a couple of virtual panels hosted by the amazing Books of Wonder in NY (Mending the Moon available here and Saving the Sun available here ), which were great fun. But I guess the funniest story was the bookshop event where no one turned up, and my post about putting on a brave face but feeling crushed went viral!
In this Feature Interview, Children's author Emma Pearl shares exciting ways to break into the kidlit market. Emma discusses how she got her first book deal through a Twitter/X pitch event + offers tips for other writers! Don't forget to COMMENT on the blog post to be entered into the GIVEAWAY POOL! Deadline to enter: 11:59 PM CST December 31st, 2024.
What kind of responses have you had from readers, big and small?

I’ve had some amazing responses. The stories resonate particularly with grandparents as they feature a grandparent relationship, but have also been popular with teachers, as they are full of great learning points. But my favorite responses are when kids themselves pluck up the courage to tell me in person how much they loved the books. That really means the world.

Thank you so much for joining us on Chelsea’s World of Books literary blog. We love getting to know our writing friends better!

And now…
It’s time for a GIVEAWAY!

GIVEAWAY:

For the month of December, Emma Pearl will be offering 2 prizes to 2 winners. (ONE prize per winner.)

PRIZES: One copy of Mending the Moon and one copy of Saving the Sun

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EMMA PEARL AUTHOR BIO + CONNECT:

My debut picture book, Mending the Moon, in 2022, followed by Saving the Sun in 2023 (both illustrated by Sara Ugolotti and published by Page Street Kids). Originally from the UK, I live in New Zealand and write fiction for young people of all ages, from picture books to young adults. I am represented by Sera Rivers at Speilburg Literary.

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SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH FORMER NASA MOLECULAR MICROBIOLOGIST AND CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR, HEATHER MORRIS, CONDUCTED BY CHILDREN’S BOOK WRITER, BLOGGER, AND FORMER LIBRARIAN, CHELSEA DICICCO

Today, I’m chatting with former NASA Molecular Microbiologist, and Children’s Book Author, Heather Morris. We’ll be discussing science in kidlit, querying trenches, close calls with agents and editors, as well as sharing some of our favorite resources and tips and tricks on starting your career with work-for-hire and direct submissions.

But before we do… here are a few things to know about feature interviews.

THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?

Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.

Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.

What can these interviews offer YOU?

These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:

  • stay current with market trends
  • hook an agent or editor
  • find writing community & other resources
  • discover workshops, contests, and other events
  • figure out which path of publication is right for you
  • know if your agent is a good match

AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month! *If you’re interested in entering the giveaway, scroll to the bottom of the interview for instructions.*

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

Welcome to the blog, Heather! It’s so nice to have you with us. And it feels wild to think we’re already in SEPTEMBER. Where has this year gone?

Today, I’d love to start by asking you the #1 question: What led you to the beautiful yet rugged terrain of publishing?

First of all, thank you so much for inviting me to be on your blog, Chelsea! I love the way you phrased this first question - publishing is beautiful, but rugged. Full of so much joy and difficulty, all rolled into one journey. A part of me has always wanted to write - poetry, novels, essays, short stories, science articles, you name it. I think that’s what it truly means to be a “writer” - one who must write, who can’t help but write. When I was about seven years old, I found a typewriter in my grandfather’s office. I would spend hours typing poorly spelled stories. And then I never stopped. Even when I was pursuing my career in science (which I think we will get to below), I never stopped writing. So, the natural outgrowth of that is…eventually, you want to publish some of the stuff you’ve written. There’s a longing to share your work with others, and this is true for any art.

In your interview bio, you shared a little bit about your fascinating line of work as a molecular microbiologist and history working with NASA. So, I’m itching to know… how did publishing enter the mix?

Yes, in high school I found microbiology. And I decided I wanted to be an epidemiologist (a scientist who studies pandemics and the spread of disease), so I entered college as a Biology major. Because I still loved literature and stories, I ended up taking as many upper-level English classes as I could manage and still major in Biology. But eventually, I had to make a choice - what will I pursue? At that age, I couldn’t handle the subjectivity of writing. I also wasn’t able to handle the rejection that comes in this industry. I needed my answers to either be correct or not. Math, science, and chemistry filled that need.

After graduating from college, I knew I wanted to work in a laboratory, which meant graduate work. While in graduate school, I learned how crucial writing and publishing is in that world also. There’s a saying in the sciences - “publish or perish” - meaning you need to continue to experiment, continue to write up your results, continue to tell elegant “stories” in order to advance. And I LOVED it! I loved the research, I loved the writing, I loved the experimental design.

But all through this, I still wrote other things. Short stories, poetry, and more. Like I said before, I just have to write.

Then I had kids. And read to them. A LOT. And I thought to myself, “I could do this. I could write a picture book.” Ha! That sparked many years of beginning to learn how complex picture books are, and how much I DIDN’T know about how to write them.

Are you still working as a molecular microbiologist? If so, how do you manage both literary deadlines and work schedules?

I worked as a scientist for a NASA contractor until last year. At that point, I made the decision to write full-time. It was becoming impossible to balance work for NASA, the schedules of three kids, and my publishing commitments while also trying to write and revise new work. But I did juggle all of those for at least five years before taking the “plunge” into full-time writing.

Any tips for readers who may be balancing a day job in addition to pursuing publication?

It’s hard. It really is. Up until recently, I wrote after the kids went to bed most evenings. And on the weekends, and at their sporting events, and in their school pick-up lines, and I’d listen to craft books while grocery shopping. I actually still do most of these things. But now, I am usually able to enjoy being with my family in the evenings instead of disappearing to write, which is wonderful because my oldest is not far away from college! I don’t want to miss a moment with any of them! My family inspires, challenges, and delights me! They, along with my close friends, are what push me to be a better writer.

Has writing been something you’ve always enjoyed, or did this happen later in life?

Yes! I’ve always been a writer. I was the kid who talked her friends into writing fan fiction at sleepovers or while we were playing at each other’s houses! I actually have a notebook with a complete book-length novel that my friend and I co-wrote at age 11!

-I love this! And can definitely relate myself. :)

Did you ever think you’d have a career in publishing? Or was it a total surprise?

This is a dream come true! As a kid, I dreamed of writing and publishing books. As a teenager, I dreamed of writing and publishing books. As an adult, I dreamed of writing and publishing books. But I never gave myself space to pursue that dream. It wasn’t “practical.” It wasn’t a “dependable job.” I will forever be grateful to my husband who not only gives me the space to create and market and promote my writing, but who also initially pushed me to learn more. “You’ve always talked about this,” he said. “Why not give it a shot?”

Speaking of a career in publishing… I’m curious to learn more about yours. You mentioned in your bio that you were in the query trenches and have had many close calls with agents and editors. Could you elaborate on this?

As you said in your first question, the publishing industry is beautiful and rugged - filled with incredible delights and crushing disappointments. I began querying my picture book manuscripts in the fall of 2021, after I’d been writing, learning, revising, and polishing for almost two years. A few of my critique partners already had agents, and one of their agents opened for paid critiques. I sent him one of my picture book manuscripts and left glowing comments and requested more of my work! My first full request…and NOT through traditional querying.

Ultimately, he ended up passing, but I was still very encouraged that an agent at a well-known, highly respected agency had been so intrigued by my writing.

-Fascinating! I love hearing stories like this. It's so interesting to see different ways people make connections and grow in the writing community.

Behind the scenes, while I was writing picture books, I was also working on a middle-grade manuscript. My second, actually. I had already written one middle-grade book just to prove to myself that I could finish something coherent and lengthy. And the first chapter of this second book was getting lots of interest from agents at conferences I attended. I finally finished that manuscript and began querying. I sent it to forty agents (over the course of six months)…and received eight full requests! I was blown away. Two asked for revise and resubmits once they read my manuscript. And…

…all of them ended up passing.

I heard on a podcast - I think it was Manuscript Academy’s podcast - that if you’re getting a lot of full requests and then passes, your submission package is working, but there’s probably something about the full manuscript that needs tweaking. So, I took a step back, worked with a developmental editor, and learned a ton about how to really write a novel.

-Oh my gosh. I LOVE the Manuscript Academy podcast. It's full of so much great info for new (and seasoned) writers!

In the meantime, I wrote another middle-grade novel and more picture books. I queried my picture books a little. Most were passes, but I got a few requests for more work! And then…more passes. At an SCBWI conference this spring, I pitched my work to an agent who was someone I really wanted to work with. Through a long series of events (and this answer’s already long enough!), she ended up offering me representation, I signed with her in early July, and we’re on submission with a few of my picture books!

-AHH! Congratulations, Heather. What terrific news- I'm so excited for you!!

“So often, I feel like this industry makes things out to be very black and white. For example, you either query for representation OR you submit to publishers. I did both simultaneously…” -Heather Morris @morrwriting #featureinterview #chelseasworldofbooks

I know this year you had your debut book published with Gnome Road Publishing—congratulations! That’s incredibly exciting and such a huge accomplishment, especially since you went at this without the aid of a literary agent. Could you tell us about how you ended up getting a book deal with the publisher?

Thanks so much, Chelsea! Trunk Goes Thunk! releases on October 8, and I couldn’t be more thrilled with this book and the whole publishing experience.

Gnome Road Publishing published its first round of books in the Spring of 2023. Since then, they have released four titles twice a year. Sandra Sutter, the publisher and lead editor at Gnome Road, conducted a series of interviews on blogs in 2021 and 2022. As I read about what she was looking to publish with her new press, I resonated with her focus on “re-readability.” She offered special submission opportunities on these blog interviews, one of which I was fortunate enough to win. I sent in a picture book manuscript (not Trunk), which Sandra took to her acquisitions team. Ultimately, they decided to pass, but I learned a little more about what she was looking for.

-This is great insight for readers, Heather. Thanks for sharing. There are really SO many ways for authors to go about finding a spot in publishing. You just really have to be open to putting yourself out there and making the connections.

When I wrote Trunk Goes Thunk! almost a year later, I sent it exclusively to Sandra. I wanted her to have first dibs on this story. I felt confident she would love it based on her wishlist and what I had learned from emailing with her about my other manuscript. Waiting for her response felt endless, but eventually, she wrote to say she wanted to buy it!

-Yay! I love happy endings. :)

Could you share your experience of how managing a book deal worked directly with the publisher without having representation?

It was very straightforward. Sandra and I met on Zoom to discuss her offer and any questions I might have, then she sent over her standard contract. She told me to take my time, read it through, and ask questions if I had them.

-Love this form of communication. It sound like she'd be great to work with.

Fortunately, I had made some connections in the publishing world, and a few of my author friends had already signed contracts with Gnome Road. I reached out to them to ask about their experiences, and every one of them had nothing but praise. Also, I have critique partners who, at that point, had already signed contracts with Big Five publishers. I asked them to take a look at the Gnome Road contract, and they gave it a green light also.

-So cool that you had friends with firsthand experience, who were able to help guide you and give feedback when you turned to them. Love this!

Were there any complications you ran into during this process- and if so, what was the outcome?

None whatsoever. Working with Sandra and Gnome Road has been smooth and absolutely delightful.

-We love to hear things like this!

Do you have any tips for readers who may be looking to submit directly to publishers versus querying for literary representation?

So often, I feel like this industry makes things out to be very black and white. For example, you either query for representation OR you submit to publishers. I did both simultaneously. I kept an extensive spreadsheet and tracked all my submissions, and (this is crucial) I only sent a manuscript to an agent or a publisher if I thought it would fit their list. And I tailored my query letters very specifically. Both to agents and publishers. Which is why I’ve only sent out about 60-70 agent queries total.

It takes a lot of research. Which takes a lot of time. But I sent a Southern-themed manuscript to Pelican Publishing and Peachtree Publishing, and got very nice passes from both (as in “this wasn’t a fit, but send us more of your work if you think it would fit our list”). I sent a different manuscript to other publishers. And a third to another set of publishers. All while querying those same manuscripts to agents. Ultimately, I wanted to secure representation for my long-term career, but I never thought these manuscripts were going to be the only ones I wrote, so if I happened to sell them along the way, GREAT!

Let’s talk publishing houses. What made you choose Gnome Road Publishing for your work? And did you submit to any other publishing houses or have any other competing offers?

As I mentioned in my story above, I only sent Trunk to Gnome Road. I started with Sandra because I really wanted to work with her and I thought this book would fit her list. Also, since I had not yet secured representation, I could only submit to publishers that accept unagented submissions. There are quite a few publishing houses that are well known that have open submissions (Charlesbridge, Chronicle, Holiday House), and I may have continued down my list if Gnome Road had passed…but thankfully, they didn’t!

However, because I hadn’t sent this manuscript to any agents, I couldn’t use Sandra’s offer as something to nudge agents with. Which meant I finalized the sale myself.

What kind of book deal were you offered? Was it a single sale, as in they bought one manuscript, or was it a multiple-book deal?

Gnome Road only offers single sale contracts…but there is more exciting news to come on that front that I hope to be able to share soon!

Do you have any fun WIP brewing? If so, what genre?

I’m currently working on revisions to a new picture book idea based on a little story I wrote for a contest. It’s morphing into something quite fun and magical.

I’m also revising my fourth complete middle-grade novel. I hope to have those edits done before the end of the year in case my agent and I decide to send it out on submission.

Finally, I have another middle-grade novel idea knocking around in my brain. It’s unlike anything I’ve written before - adventure, mystery, and a hefty dose of friendship. Well, the friendship part is a theme in all my work, but the other stuff is new. 🙂

You mentioned querying agents, so what ultimately made you decide not to go the representation route for your first book deal?

As I mentioned a little earlier, I sent Trunk to Sandra exclusively. Perhaps that may not have been the most “popular” or “acceptable” decision - some may argue that I should have simultaneously submitted it to agents - but I went with my gut. Again, if Sandra and Gnome Road had passed, I am sure I would have queried this manuscript broadly, but everything worked out in the end.

Do you plan to continue publishing without literary representation in the future or do you think you’re leaning toward acquiring representation down the line? Why or why not?

Definitely not! I’ve always been interested in securing literary representation for my career. I knew I wanted help with marketing, strategizing about the best manuscripts to send on submission, help identifying interested editors, and someone to help with the business side of the publishing industry (contract negotiation, royalties, foreign rights, etc.).

Which is why I’m so overjoyed that I’ve partnered with Kristen Terrette at Martin Literary Management! And we’re already out on submission with a few of my picture book manuscripts.

Let's talk a little about your experience with the educational market and work-for-hire. Could you shed more light on these interesting avenues of publishing and how one might approach entering one of these doors?

I first heard of the write-for-hire market from a fellow writer that I met through Twitter/X. She told me about an upcoming webinar in her SCBWI region that was all about breaking into the write-for-hire market. “You’re a scientist. You’d be great for this,” she said. And after I heard the presentation, I was definitely intrigued. The presenters did a fabulous job of breaking down the steps you need to take into manageable chunks - doing research on the publishers out there, preparing a submission package (VERY different from querying agents), etc.

So I wrote a few samples, worked on my resume (not at all the resume you’re thinking of, I can assure you, this one is SUPER fun!), and wrote a cover letter. I did my research on publishers and talked to some other writers I knew who had done some write-for-hire work. Then I sent out my package to four or five educational market publishers (Roarke, Abdo, and others)...and waited.

About one year later, I heard from RedLine Editorial, one of the places I’d sent my submission package. They asked if I wanted to write one book in a series of climate books they were putting together for North Star Editions. Since then, I’ve written four books for them!

-That's incredible! How very cool.

So, what has the work-for-hire experience been like for you? And what would you like to share about this with other readers who may be interested in dipping their toes into this side of publishing?


I really love the research involved in write-for-hire (everything I’ve written has been nonfiction), along with the specifications and structure from the publisher. It’s almost like putting together a puzzle - how to fit specific pieces into their places to make a beautiful picture.

“My suggestion would be to have patience, persistence, and hold onto your sense of wonder. I think many people – myself included – make the mistake of thinking that breaking into publishing will be relatively easy… But like any industry, craft, and profession, it takes time to learn, to practice, to build networks and community.” -Heather Morris @morrwriting

What have been some of the most influential writing groups/conferences you’ve attended or been part of- and what specifically stood out to you about them?

I highly recommend two conferences - the ABLA Big Sur conference and the Rutgers Council on Children’s Literature One-to-One Plus conference. The first used to be held in both Big Sur, CA and on Cape Cod, MA. Now, I think they’ve condensed to one conference in February in Big Sur.

This conference gives you the opportunity to meet in small groups with ABLA agents, editors, and big name writers (Neil Shusterman, Rajani La Rocca, and more). I made some close writing friends at this conference, had a wonderful time swapping stories with full-time authors, and got real-time feedback from agents. It was great, but it is pricey.

-Wow, this is a TERRIFIC resource, Heather. Thanks so much for sharing this with our readers!

The RUCCL One-to-One Plus conference is held every October on the campus of Rutgers University in New Jersey, when the leaves are changing color. It’s gorgeous! Every mentee is guaranteed an HOUR of one on one feedback with an agent, editor, or author (mentors)! And you have another hour of roundtable discussion with six mentors and six mentees, meaning you get to meet six editors, agents, and authors! There’s plenty of time to talk and mingle at lunch, and the presentations are great. It is one full day. You have to send in an application to be considered. Applications for the fall are due the summer before.

-That sounds amazing!

I heard you got to give a presentation at your regional SCBWI conference- (very cool btw!) Which region are you a member of, and what was your presentation about?


Thank you! Yes, it was an honor to be able to present at the Spring 2023 conference for Southern Breeze. Our regional advisors asked for proposals for conference topics and I had just finished my first two write-for-hire books. I reached out to another author in my region, Heather Montgomery, who has written LOTS of children’s books - both for the trade and educational markets - and asked if she wanted to do a presentation on the write-for-hire market together. She agreed! It was the “Two Heathers” presentation, and we had a blast!

In fact, if you’d like more information on the write-for-hire market - what it is and how to break into it, the slides from that presentation are on my website HERE.

-THIS IS AMAZING! I feel like I'm in resource heaven!

Later on, in November 2023, I ended up stepping in to present at a smaller Middle Grade intensive that we had for our Southern Breeze region. I talked about working with editors, and that presentation is also on my website HERE.

For people who are just starting out in this line of work… what suggestions/tips/tricks do you have on navigating the ever-changing and competitive waters of kidlit publishing? And what recommendations do you have on places where they can go to find information on the industry, improve craft, or find community?

For those starting out…welcome! And congratulations! You’re embarking on a difficult journey. It’s a long road, filled with detours, stop lights that don’t change for a LOOOONG time, potholes, and potentially dangerous paths (if you don’t stop to read the signs). But it has magnificent views! And the unbelievable joy, honor, and gift of writing for the best audience - KIDS!

My suggestion would be to have patience, persistence, and hold onto your sense of wonder. I think many people - myself included - make the mistake of thinking that breaking into publishing will be relatively easy. “I like writing. I made pretty good grades in English in college and high school.” But like any industry, craft, and profession, it takes time to learn, to practice, to build networks and community. It has helped me to think of this publishing process as not only a journey, but a career switch. I had to “go back to college” (take LOTS of courses through Highlights and the 12x12 picture book challenge and more, watch LOTS of webinars, attend LOTS of conferences, and write a LOT) for about four years before I could really enter the industry and find a “job” (i.e. sign a contract).

My suggestion would be to have patience, persistence, and hold onto your sense of wonder. I think many people – myself included – make the mistake of thinking that breaking into publishing will be relatively easy… But like any industry, craft, and profession, it takes time to learn, to practice, to build networks and community.

“It’s amazing for me to consider that kids that I’ve never met, adults I’ve never met, will read my words. I can’t express how much it means to me. The whole idea that we can make marks on a page that another person will pick up and understand and then layer their personal experience on top of…it’s magic. Sheer magic.”

What have been your favorite parts of kidlit publishing so far?

Talking with kids from schools all over the country! Interacting with readers is my FAVORITE! But…Seeing my book covers and holding my words in print were close seconds. 🙂

What are some challenges you’ve faced on this journey, and how were you able to overcome them?

About two years into this process of shifting careers, I became really disheartened. I had been writing and revising. I’d joined a critique group or two. I’d attended conferences and studied and read the books, and I felt like I wasn’t getting anywhere. Then I’d get on social media and try to engage, but I’d just see happy posts about book deals and agent signings and author visits. Don’t get me wrong, I was genuinely happy for these authors - they are my online community! But it was still hard.

One of the best things for me was setting boundaries on social media. And then taking the time that I had been spending scrolling and posting and taking the perfect picture or making the best Canva post…and using it to write. I wrote and wrote and wrote. All kinds of things in all kinds of genres. I played with words and did writing exercises and had FUN! I rediscovered my love of writing, for the joy of writing.

I also leaned into my family and friends, spending lots of time with them, NOT talking about the publishing industry. 🙂

Writing is a deeply personal pursuit that is highly focused on creativity. What is your main reason for writing? And what does it mean to YOU to write and share books with others?

It is amazing for me to consider that kids that I’ve never met, adults I’ve never met, will read my words. I can’t express how much it means to me. The whole idea that we can make marks on a page that another person will pick up and understand and then layer their personal experience on top of…it’s magic. Sheer magic.

Speaking of writing… it’s time for my favorite part of the interview. THE BOOKS!

“I like to say my books/stories are filled with science, wonder, and imagination. Nature also features strongly in all my writing. I love being out in the natural world.” Heather Morris @morrwriting


We’d love to hear about the book(s) you’ve published. Tell us all about it(them)!

Trunk Goes Thunk! Is my debut picture book! But I had two educational market books come out last August -

Climate Crisis in the Southeast (Focus Readers/North Star Editions) and Top Brands: Disney (Apex/North Star Editions). It was so much fun to write about Disney for that second book! And I had a blast with all the research for Climate Crisis.

I also have two more books releasing from Apex/North Star Editions this month, both in their Dog Breeds series. I got to write about Dachshunds and Staffordshire Bull Terriers and learned a ton about both of these unique and interesting breeds!

On July 8 of this year, The Haunted States of America released from Godwin Books/Macmillan. This anthology is a collection of 52 short stories by 52 different SCBWI authors representing every state, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia! Each spooky story has a gorgeous illustration by the remarkable illustrator, Solomon Hughes. It’s an honor to have my ghost story - “White Thing” - represent Alabama in this cool collection!

What was your inspiration for writing it(them), and what do you hope your story/stories will give your readers?

I like to say my books/stories are filled with science, wonder, and imagination. Nature also features strongly in all my writing. I love being out in the natural world. My corner of creation is lovely - rolling hills, deep rivers, temperate forests, high biodiversity, more caves than most of the rest of the world. It’s a pretty great place for inspiration. My family also inspires me. My kids challenge me, give me great ideas, and, of course, give me honest feedback. And my grandfather gave me the idea for my “White Thing” story!

Do you have any favorite book spreads? If so, which one(s) and why? Also, if you have any pictures to share, we’d love to see them!

YES!! My illustrators for Trunk Goes Thunk!, Chantelle and Burgen Thorne, are OUTSTANDING! They are incredibly talented. I was blown away by the care and beauty that they infused into every spread of this lovely book. But I confess, I do have a favorite. I absolutely love otters, and there’s one spread in the book that shows the log in summer and in winter…and - without knowing how much I adore otters! - they drew the cutest little guys sunning on the log!! Here it is:

“I like to say my books/stories are filled with science, wonder, and imagination. Nature also features strongly in all my writing. I love being out in the natural world.”

Have you had a chance to do any book events since its launch? If so, we’d love to hear about it and see some photos if you have any and would like to share!

I have done a few book events! I did multiple Zoom and one in-person author visit last spring, where I spoke about my upcoming books and the science and inspiration that went into writing them. I’ve also participated in two different book festivals where I took pre-orders for my books and sold copies of my educational market books and some other anthologies that I’ve contributed to (adult market books).

The festivals are fun, though sometimes it feels like you’re running a lemonade stand. :) You sit and wait until someone “drives by,” and then you say “hello,” stand up, and try to engage. I enjoy meeting new people and hearing their stories so that part is fun! I’ve learned that you may not sell many books, but you’ll make connections, and I always have a sign-up sheet for my quarterly newsletter.

-I love that analogy.
If applicable- What has been your favorite part of author events?

I love author visits ‘cause you get to interact with KIDS! If you can’t tell, I really enjoy being around kids. They ask great questions, they won’t sugar-coat their feedback, and they’re so passionate about what they like. I can’t wait to keep booking more and more of these events!

If applicable- What kind of events have you been able to host, and how were the events arranged? Did you reach out directly? If so, how? (Email? Phone call? etc.) And what places have you been able to visit? (Farmer’s Markets/Libraries/Schools/Bookstores, ETC.)?

I’ve participated in book festivals, done one in-person author visit, multiple Zoom author visits, and been a panelist for a few different events. For two of these, I was contacted by someone I had met at another event. They told me about the book festival or author visit they wanted me to do and asked if I was interested. For all the others, I had to reach out via phone or email (I’ve done both), explain who I am and about my book, and ask if they are interested. I think calling bookstores works better because you can learn the person’s name and explain more about yourself. Then, you can follow up with an email.

Coming up in the next few months, I’ll be participating in the Mississippi Book Festival in Jackson in September, and I have multiple book signings/story times booked in October!

Do you have any final words of wisdom you’d like to share with readers today that you wish you had known when you first started pursuing publication?

I’m so grateful to be writing books for kids and so thankful to be talking to you, Chelsea! I wish I had known to slow down and not be in a rush to be published. I wish I had allowed myself to “play,” to experiment, earlier. I eventually got to that point, but it took a little while.

-Lovely advice to end on, Heather. Thanks again for being with us today. It's been an absolute treasure getting to hear more about your wonderful "story behind the story" of publishing. And you've given us so many great tips, resources, and pieces of advice. I'll be keeping my eye out for your forthcoming books!

And now it's time for some GIVEAWAYS!

This month, Heather is offering TWO giveaway prizes- one prize per winner– TWO WINNERS TOTAL!

  • One picture book manuscript (fiction or nonfiction, 800 words or less) OR 1 query letter critique
  • One 30 minute, ask me anything session

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  • Leave a comment on this post!
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In this Feature Interview, I talk with former NASA Molecular Microbiologist and Children's Book Author, Heather Morris. Heather shares her insight on publishing across the educational market, work-for-hire, direct to publisher, and with literary representation, and offers a treasure trove of resources for aspiring and current authors on how to grow community and make connections in the kidlit world. This month, Heather is offering 2 giveaways- 1 prize each to each winner- 2 winners total! Be sure to comment on the post for a chance to win. Retweet & share for extra entries.

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Heather C. Morris is the grateful author of multiple books for kids – fiction, nonfiction, picture books, and middle grade – including Trunk Goes Thunk! (Gnome Road Publishing, 2024), and a ghost story in the Haunted States of America Anthology (Godwin Books/Macmillan, 2024). She is an active member of the Society of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators (SCBWI), the Middle Grade Hub, and the 12×12 picture book challenge.  When she’s not reading or writing, you’ll find her hiking the surrounding Appalachian Mountains with her husband, their three kids, and their rescued border collie. Heather is represented by Kristen Terrette at Martin Literary Management.

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MAY 1ST, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR AND EDUCATOR CHRISTINA DANKERT, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

It’s the first day of May- and the first Wednesday of the month, which means I’m welcoming another guest onto the blog. Put your hands together for children’s book author and educator Christina Dankert.

Before I jump into our interview, though- if this is your first time visiting my blog or the feature interview segments, welcome! I’m glad you’re here, and I hope you’ll visit again. To give you an idea of what’s in store, here’s a brief overview of what feature interviews are all about and why they’re so valuable.

WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS AND WHY ARE THEY SO GREAT?

In a nutshell, here’s what a “feature interview” is. Every month, I sit down with literary professionals –authors, illustrators, editors, and agents– at all stages of their careers- from newly debuting to well-established, seasoned best sellers- and we discuss all things kidlit publishing. (Many of my guests are also former or current educators and librarians!)

These interviews are a great resource for kidlit writers and illustrators no matter where they are in their journey. Not only do they offer current information on market trends, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publishing from a diverse collection of creators and perspectives.

Here’s a list of just a few of the helpful things we discuss:

  • Where to find both FREE and PAID for writing memberships, craft workshops, contests, and other resources
  • How to query agents and editors and what they’re looking for
  • Where to find kidlit community and support from other writers or illustrators
  • Diversity, empathy, and kindness in kidlit and why it matters
  • How to improve your skills and set goals
  • Writing across genres
  • How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
  • Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
  • Pros and cons of small publishers, hybrid (or indie) publishing, and being agented vs. unagented
  • What to do after you sign with your first agent – and/or make your first book deal
  • How to promote your books as a debuting author or illustrator
  • Behind the scenes of hosting author events- library/school visits
  • How to get your books into bookstores & schools
  • And, of course- during each feature interview segment- we share new publishing deals & host giveaway prizes for our readers!!! ** Giveaway PRIZES and instructions on HOW to enter are listed at the bottom of each interview**

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

INTRODUCTION: HOW IT ALL STARTED… AND CLASSROOMS

Christina, thank you so much for joining us today. We’re thrilled to have you here. The first thing I love asking my guests is where they began. Can you tell us when and how your journey to kidlit started? What were the motivating factors that led you to publishing? And where did your entry into the world first take root?

Thank you for having me! I find your author interviews very helpful and motivating, and I am honored to share part of my story. My kidlit author journey started as a Covid silver lining. I stepped away from my teaching position for a year, focused on my family, and had the opportunity to make writing a priority. Instead of writing lesson plans, prepping, and grading, I used that time to write and attend virtual conferences and writing sessions.

Have you always been a literature lover and fan of writing?

I loved reading as a child. I grew up with parents who valued reading. My mom took my sister and me to the public library frequently. I had teachers in high school who caused me to greatly dislike reading. I hated being told what I had to read and often found mandatory text boring or confusing. I went to college and had a roommate who was an English major. She traveled with a floor-to-ceiling bookshelf in each of her apartments. She would highlight books she thought I’d be interested in and I began to read for pleasure. When I had my own children, I read to them but didn’t have the time or energy for my own reading. I missed it. I made a goal to read four pages a night. FOUR PAGES! A habit was formed, and now I enjoy reading and listening to books through audiobooks as much as possible.

I know you’re a second-grade teacher. Has your teaching experience influenced your desire to publish books?

Absolutely! As a teacher, I take my read-alouds very seriously. As a mom of two and a teacher, I read a lot of picture books. There are so many beautiful and meaningful books. Since I only have 180 school days, I try to pick the best of the best.

Books that will:
* help teach academic content
*that will allow for discussions and celebrations of cultures and diversity
*books that help explore feelings/emotions and provide strategies
*and books that simply make us laugh and are meant to entertain us while building a love for reading

As a mom and teacher, I know that kindness is very important. I want my children and students to be kind humans to each other and to themselves. Kindness ended up being the focus of my first picture book.

What do your students think about the fact that their teacher is also an author? Do they think, “Wow, my teacher is SO cool! She writes books!” (I know I would have thought it was the coolest thing ever.)

They do think it is exciting! But the best part is, they are inspired to write their own stories! I have students create their own stories, outside of pieces we are working on, that they illustrated or that they work together with a friend at recess or at home. Each week, students share their stories with the class, and our basket of published books keeps growing.

I love it when students complain about how hard writing is. It allows me to pause and tell them how many times I had to reread The Kindness Machine and how many times it was edited. This allows them to see that it is okay if it’s hard, but perseverance is key.

That must be an AMAZING feeling, to see your students inspired to create and try- try again. Speaking of inspired to create... Do you ever do any creative writing assignments with your second graders?

This year, we are creating a writing portfolio. Each quarter, students add a few pieces of writing or typed stories. They range from narrative, opinion, and informational writing. I write a positive note to each student in their portfolio, and then they take it home to share with their families. It is returned with a positive note from home, and then we repeat the following quarter. I have seen more enthusiasm from reluctant writers because they know they get to share it at home. Boosting confidence is a huge piece of writing in 2nd grade.

As a mom and teacher, I know that kindness is very important. I want my children and students to be kind humans to each other and to themselves.

I love when students complain about how hard writing is. It allows me to pause and tell them how many times I had to reread The Kindness Machine and how many times it was edited. This allows them to see that it is okay if it’s hard, but perseverance is key.

PUBLISHING ROUTES & SUBMISSIONS

You published your debut picture book, The Kindness Machine, in 2022. Congratulations! Can you tell us about what publishing route you took? Did you go traditional or independent? Did you query agents for representation, or did you send submissions directly to the publisher? And why?

Thank you! I went with a hybrid publisher, Purple Butterfly Press, which had other published books featuring character strengths. Working collaboratively with a team was very beneficial since this was my first time publishing. The team was very patient and answered all of my questions. An added bonus was that this publisher allowed for not only manuscript submissions but illustrator samples as well. We will circle back to why that was so exciting in a minute. In the future, I would love to be traditionally published, and I am working on agent research and my query letter.

Was it an immediate YES on the first try? Explain.

I submitted to a few publishers and heard nothing. When I submitted it to Purple Butterfly Press, I received an email about a month later stating that they were interested in my manuscript.

Can you share some of the pros/cons of each route and what it has to offer?

There are pros and cons to each publishing route, and ultimately, you have to do what is best for you. I’d love to be published traditionally and independently to see which route I prefer. A pro for traditionally published is often a wider distribution to help get your book in the hands of readers. A pro for being independently published is that it is often a faster timeline.

Okay, so you have your manuscript(s), and you’re ready to launch out in the world. What kind of timeframe did it take to get your first book deal- from concept to publication?

Be sure to pack an extra suitcase of patience for this journey. We live in a fast-paced world where we are so used to instant gratification.

My timeline was:
Fall 2020 - wrote manuscript, peer edits/feedback.
March 2021 - submitted manuscript to Purple Butterfly Press.
May 2021 - signed contract
March 2022 - published

Are you currently represented by an agent/agency? If so, who?
Not at this point. Through the 12x12 writing community, I have learned a lot about agents and representation. I hope to one day have an agent that will help bring more books into the world.

There are pros and cons to each publishing route, and ultimately, you have to do what is best for you. A pro for traditionally published is often a wider distribution to help get your book in the hands of readers. A pro for being independently published is that it is often a faster timeline.

Do you have anything out on submission right now or any future projects currently in the works?

My goal for 2024 is to write multiple manuscripts and revise them. All of my manuscripts feature a positive character trait: empathy, perseverance, quality time, etc. I am proud of the writing that has happened so far this year and hope to send work out on submission in 2025.

I recently received an honorable mention for my 50 Precious Word International Writing Contest submission. That was a huge boost for my confidence and is motivating me to turn those 50 words into a full manuscript.

That is such an exciting accomplishment, Christina- congratulations!! That confidence boost is well deserved and should be celebrated.

Speaking of celebrating… I also participated in this year’s 50 Precious Words Contest and made it to the honorable mentions- so I’m celebrating with you! If any of our readers would like to see me or Christina’s 2024 50 Precious Word entries, you can view them below!

AUTHOR VISITS

I know you love doing author events. Would you tell us about some of the events you’ve done? How did you get in the doors? Did you reach out to them  (schools/libraries/bookstores/etc) or did they reach out to you? Are your visits paid, do you offer them voluntarily, or is it a mixture of both? 

I absolutely LOVE doing author visits! To read something that you have poured your heart and soul into, to your target audience is an incredible feeling. To see children get excited when you hope they do, ask amazing questions, and often tell you that they are going to be an author is very rewarding. When the book launched, I had the opportunity to read the book to each grade level at my very supportive school. I presented the book six times as I worked my way from kindergarten to fifth. I was able to try out a few different things and cater the presentations to the different age groups.

From there, I have reached out to a few schools and been approached by local schools. At this point, the presentation is not paid but schools have an opportunity to purchase books, which my husband and I both sign. (Keep reading to find out why my husband is signing the books too!) If this was my full-time career, I would charge for the presentation, would be more willing to travel further from home and would spend a lot of time approaching school districts. Maybe someday, but right now, I look at author visits as something that brings me immense joy and is a special treat for my author heart.


I absolutely LOVE doing author visits! To read something that you have poured your heart and soul into, to your target audience is an incredible feeling. To see children get excited when you hope they do, ask amazing questions, and often tell you that they are going to be an author is very rewarding.

About how long do you typically stay for a visit? Can you give us a brief idea of what your format looks like? Read aloud? Q&A? Class craft or project? Etc.

A typical author visit kicks off with the importance of reading and sharing stories. I then have children look at the cover of The Kindness Machine to make a guess what it looks like under the sheet. I read the story and pause throughout to ask questions. There are little “magic questions” in the bottom right hand corner in the heart of the book that are perfect to engage listeners. I end with a Q&A and have had older students complete a kindness brainstorming activity. I also email teachers a few printables that go with the story for them to use at their convenience. Typically, the presentations are 25-40 minutes long.

What’s your favorite part of the author visit?

My favorite part of the author visit is when I read the last page of the book. I never show the last page on the large screen until after I read the last page has only one sentence. It reads, “Now let me ask you again, who has a superpower?” Student’s hands ALWAYS shoot up when they realize that kindness is the superpower they already have.

Do you ever offer (or bring) anything special to your classroom/library/bookstore, like a signed copy of your book or something else?

I like to donate a hard copy of the book to the school’s library.

What advice would you share with a debuting author or illustrator looking to get their foot in the door of a bookstore, library, or school for an author event? Any tips on how to go about this?

Reach out to school librarians, reading specialists, or parent clubs to see if an author visit is something their school would be interested in. Let them know what your book is about and what the presentation looks like so they can see if it would be a good fit.

My favorite part of the author visit is when I read the last page of the book. Student’s hands ALWAYS shoot up when they realize that kindness is the superpower they already have.

Reach out to school librarians, reading specialists, or parent clubs to see if an author visit is something their school would be interested in. Let them know what your book is about and what the presentation looks like so they can see if it would be a good fit.”

OVERCOMING HURDLES & FINDING COMMUNITY

What were some of the hurdles you faced early on and maybe even later during the publishing process? And how were you able to overcome them? Explain.

Waiting is very challenging, but it is part of the process. I received excellent writing advice from a writer friend. She suggested that once you submit something and you are waiting, start working on something else. It might be another manuscript, but it might also be a blog post, application for author event, magazine article, etc. Keep working on your craft so that you continue to get better and keep your mind busy during the waiting portion on this journey.

Speaking of hurdles… one thing I’ve found to be true is the value of building connections among the writing community. They make the hardships so much more bearable and at times, they can make the difference in sticking it out until the end. Can you tell us about your experience in forging friendships among the writing community?

The kidlit community is truly incredible. Finding other authors is key. Oftentimes your family and friends will be incredible cheerleaders for you. However, you need other writers to understand your frustrations, help with accountability and celebrate even the littlest of wins. It was through a virtual writing conference in 2021 that I connected with incredible writers. We get together a few times a month via Zoom to ask questions, share work and receive feedback and then spend time writing.

Where did you go to find your writing community and what suggestions do you have for other writers or illustrators looking to branch out in this area?

As I mentioned, I was fortunate enough to click with writers during a virtual conference. However, reach out to your library, check to see if there are local writing groups or feel free to start your own with like minded people.

Are there any writing organizations, groups, podcasts, or websites that you recommend checking out?

I find the 12x12 Writing Challenge to be a very supportive community, it is where you and I first crossed paths. I appreciate the thoughtful monthly webinars and active Facebook group to ask questions and support one another.

The kidlit community is truly incredible. Finding other authors is key. Oftentimes your family and friends will be incredible cheerleaders for you. However, you need other writers to understand your frustrations, help with accountability and celebrate even the littlest of wins.

I find the 12×12 Writing Challenge to be a very supportive community, it is where you and I first crossed paths. I appreciate the thoughtful monthly webinars and active Facebook group to ask questions and support one another.

BOOKISH THINGS

Moving on to bookish things! Can you tell us about the illustrations in your story, The Kindness Machine? Did you have any say or contribution in the artwork, or was it a complete surprise? Were they what you imagined they’d be? Explain.

Ah ha! I am so excited to share that my husband, Chad, was the illustrator for The Kindness Machine! Before we were married, I told him we should merge our two professions of teacher and artist into a picture book. 14 years later and here we are! It was honestly a joy to collaborate with Chad. He knows me so well and was able to bring the story to life. Working with a hybrid publisher, we had the opportunity to pitch both the manuscript and illustration samples and they both were accepted. We spent many nights on the couch or at the dinner table after the kids went to bed, talking about illustrations as he sketched on his i-Pad. He was able to add in extra details such as the teacher looking like my best friend, adding a Free Little Library to the sketches and items from my classroom, such as a fish tank. Chad exceeded my expectations and it is something we are both very proud to have collaborated on.
Let’s talk about “the moment.” “The moment” being… the first time you saw and held your book in your hands. What were your feelings and thoughts?

It really is a big deal! I remember holding the sample copy and just smiling. Our own children saw it and my son said, “Wait! It’s out!?” It was very special reading the actual book to them that night at bedtime.

The Kindness Machine has such a wonderful message. Can you tell us about the story?

The Kindness Machine takes place in a second grade classroom with a teacher, Mr. Wilson, who is known for creating fun gadgets and gizmos. One day he brings a kindness machine to school and students have the opportunity to push different buttons to learn ways to be kind not only to others but also to themselves. In the end, students realize that they each have their own kindness machine inside them to help spread kindness wherever they go.
In your own words, can you share your inspiration for writing this book and how you hope it will leave your readers feeling?

As a mom and a teacher, we truly want all of our children and students to be kind. My hope is that the readers and listeners are reminded that kindness is not complicated. We can spread kindness through simple actions. The idea of self-love and kindness to ourselves is something that even adults struggle with. My goal is that if we start sharing this idea of loving ourselves early, we can help lay a solid foundation for self-love. I also secretly hope that the adults reading the books get a gentle reminder to not be so hard on themselves.

What has the reaction/response been from readers? Have you had any special moments that you’d like to share?

The response has been great! I love when former students tell me they read the book AGAIN before bedtime or that a teacher checked it out from the library for their class. A high school senior, who I did not know, used The Kindness Machine for a huge project. He had to create a display, read the book to a class, and create an activity to go with the book. One school counselor read the book to 17 classes and created an entire school wall with pieces from the story that they worked on together. It was so amazing to really feel the kindness ripple that has happened from publishing.

Any advice for authors and/or illustrators who are looking into breaking into the kidlit market?

Read! Read everything you can in your kidlit theme that is already out and figure out what is missing that you can add. I read over 50 books about kindness, but only one included kindness to ourselves, which is why I included that in my book. Connect with other writers and carve out time to write.

Okay, we’ve done the nitty-gritty portion. Now, let’s move on to a few fun favorites.

Favorite color?
Red

Favorite animal?
Panda

Favorite vacation destination?
The beach!

Favorite dessert/snack?
Dark chocolate, donuts

Favorite book(s)?
Too many to list!

As a mom and a teacher, we truly want all of our children and students to be kind. My hope is that the readers and listeners are reminded that kindness is not complicated. We can spread kindness through simple actions.

The idea of self-love and kindness to ourselves is something that even adults struggle with. My goal is that if we start sharing this idea of loving ourselves early, we can help lay a solid foundation for self-love. I also hope that the adults reading the books get a gentle reminder to not be so hard on themselves.

Any last pieces of advice or words of wisdom that you’d like to share with our readers today?

Be patient. Trust yourself. Remember that you have a story to tell and that your words matter. Write on.

Thank you, Christina, for spending time with us today. We appreciate you and everything you’ve done to share your kindness with the world.

But don’t hurry off just yet…
We still have ONE final item on our agenda. And that’s… THE GIVEAWAY!

Christina Dankert is offering the following giveaway prize: A signed copy of The Kindness Machine.

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APRIL 3RD, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR JENNIFER RAUDENBUSH, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

It’s officially April! Summer is just around the corner. Which means the library is buzzing with activity… and so is the kidlit world. Today, it’s my pleasure to introduce you to our first Feature Interview guest of the month, Jennifer Raudenbush. Jennifer’s debut picture book, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND, was launched in March of 2023. If you don’t already have a copy, be sure to enter the giveaway at the bottom of the interview!

Before I jump into our interview, though- if this is your first time visiting my blog or the feature interview segments, welcome! I’m glad you’re here, and I hope you’ll visit again. To give you an idea of what’s in store, here’s a brief overview of what feature interviews are all about and why they’re so valuable.

WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS AND WHY ARE THEY SO GREAT?

In a nutshell, here’s what a “feature interview” is. Every month, I sit down with literary professionals –authors, illustrators, editors, and agents– at all stages of their careers- from newly debuting to well-established, seasoned best sellers- and we discuss all things kidlit publishing. (Many of my guests are also former or current educators and librarians!)

These interviews are a great resource for kidlit writers and illustrators no matter where they are in their journey. Not only do they offer current information on market trends, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publishing from a diverse collection of creators and perspectives.

Here’s a list of just a few of the helpful things we discuss:

  • Where to find both FREE and PAID for writing memberships, craft workshops, contests, and other resources
  • How to query agents and editors and what they’re looking for
  • Where to find kidlit community and support from other writers or illustrators
  • Diversity, empathy, and kindness in kidlit and why it matters
  • How to improve your skills and set goals
  • Writing across genres
  • How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
  • Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
  • Pros and cons of small publishers, hybrid (or indie) publishing, and being agented vs. unagented
  • What to do after you sign with your first agent – and/or make your first book deal
  • How to promote your books as a debuting author or illustrator
  • Behind the scenes of hosting author events- library/school visits
  • How to get your books into bookstores & schools
  • And of course- during each feature interview segment- we share new publishing deals & host giveaway prizes for our readers!!! ** Giveaway PRIZES and instructions on HOW to enter are listed at the bottom of each interview**

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

WHERE YOU’RE AT AND WHERE YOU’VE BEEN…

Jennifer, it’s such a treat to have on Chelsea’s World of Books today. Thank you for joining us. One of the coolest parts of looking over my applicants last year in preparation for the 2024 lineup was seeing geographically where all of my entries were coming from. So, let’s start with that. Where are you currently living- and if it’s different from where you’re originally from, where was that?

Hi, Chelsea. Thanks so much for having me today! I was born, raised, and still live in beautiful eastern Pennsylvania. I love nature, and this area offers amazing views and hikes.

How long have you been writing? Have you been writing since you were a kid, or did your love for writing spark later in life?

I was always a big reader and learned to read before kindergarten. When I was a kid, I created a lot of cards and some stories, but mainly I became interested in writing in middle school and high school. I was a co-editor of both my high school newspaper and yearbook. I later majored in English Literature at Sweet Briar College in Virginia. While in college, I made my first picture book dummy, even though I truly had no idea how to write a picture book. It was the seed of my writing dream.

When did you first know you wanted to pursue publishing as a career? How old were you?

A well-meaning family member talked me out of becoming a writer (due to the income), so I became a speech-language pathologist specializing in pediatrics at a local hospital. But, like I said, I was always interested in reading and writing.

Was there anyone/anything influential that impacted your choice to pursue publication… or maybe spurred your love of literacy/writing?

I had two wonderful English teachers in high school, Mrs. Karpulk and Miss Beatty, who cemented that love of literacy deep in my bones. Both encouraged my writing, and I owe a debt of gratitude to them for pointing out that writing was a great strength of mine.

Are you the only writer in your family/friend group- or are there more writers in your midst?

I had been the only writer in my family. However, two years ago, my talented artist sister, Amy Kristen Moore, began working toward becoming an author-illustrator. Due to critique groups, I now have many writer friends! And honestly, I spend so much time with them, they begin to feel like family.

When – and how- did your path to publication truly begin?

In a 2014 seminary class, we did an exercise in which we had to write our own obituaries. It wasn’t as morbid as it sounds! I had to fill in the blank, “The thing I most regret never having accomplished is ___.” Right away, I knew the answer was not having published a children’s book.

I researched writing children’s books and found SCBWI. I joined an online eastern PA SCBWI critique group in the fall of 2015 and began writing (not great) picture book manuscripts. The group fizzled out, but one of the members, Becky Scharnhorst (who has now published several books!) and I continued on. We decided to meet in person at the Highlights Foundation workshop Picture Books & All That Jazz, led by Leslie Helakoskie and Darcy Pattison, in June 2016. While there, we formed a new critique group with three other writers: Rose Cappelli, Jen Fier Jasinski, and Karen LaSalvia. We call ourselves The Highlighters, and we’re still going strong!

I noticed in your bio that you’ve also done publishing in children’s magazines as well as some poetry anthologies. That’s so cool! Can you tell our readers a little more about that writing journey and how you were able to get your footing there?

I read poetry almost every morning, and I consider myself a poet. I’ve always enjoyed reading poetry, and I started writing it just for myself in graduate school. Eventually, I took Renee LaTulippe’s Lyrical Language Lab class. After that, I researched children’s magazines and submitted some poems. It’s similar to the process of querying. You see what topic and/or type of poetry a magazine, journal, or anthology wants and submit something you think might fit.

I’m not 100% about this, but I’ve heard it rumored that agents generally shy away from things like magazines and anthologies because they’re typically smaller deals, which equals less money on their end. So, for your published magazine stories and anthologies, was that something you did on your own before getting literary representation, or is that something your agent was able to help you with?

Yes, I think you are correct. At least, it was correct for my previous agent. She added a line in my contract that I was in charge of any poetry submissions/publications.

Do you have any suggestions for writers or illustrators who may be interested in publishing for magazines, writing poetry for kids, or participating in anthologies? Any good places to go or other tips on learning the writing craft that you recommend?

First, I would encourage people interested in poetry to read a lot of it. Then, practice writing it. In addition to the Lyrical Language Lab, the Highlights Foundation, and other places that offer classes or workshops on poetry. I haven’t taken it yet, but Sylvia Vardell and Janet Wong offer some workshops on poetry and anthologies. Occasionally, I’ll do an online search on “poetry calls for submission” to see if I have anything in which one of these publications might be interested.

I had two wonderful English teachers in high school, Mrs. Karpulk and Miss Beatty, who cemented that love of literacy deep in my bones. Both encouraged my writing, and I owe a debt of gratitude to them for pointing out that writing was a great strength of mine.

I would encourage people interested in poetry to read a lot of it. Then, practice writing it. In addition to the Lyrical Language Lab, the Highlights Foundation and other places offer classes or workshops on poetry.

EARLY STAGES: HIGHS AND LOWS AND CONQUERING MOUNTAINS

Everyone says it- and there’s a reason for it: PUBLISHING IS A JOURNEY. And it’s not for the faint of heart. It requires grit. Tenacity. Perseverance. Passion. And true determination. 

Don’t get me wrong… kidlit is a FANTASTIC place. In fact, it’s my favorite place! It’s filled with so much beauty. But, with the highs come the lows, and taking the waves with grace and patience is an acquired skill. A skill that has to be learned and continually put into practice. So, let’s talk about that.

Why would you say patience is a required skill in publishing? And was this something easy for you to put into practice?


Patience. Right. When my teenage son was a toddler, I prayed for patience. I soon learned to stop doing that because it seemed God was giving me lots of opportunities in which to practice it! Unfortunately, publishing abounds with opportunities for which patience is required. I found I needed an abundance of patience at every stage: writing, revising, receiving critiques, querying, submitting to editors, publishing. I wouldn’t say it was or is ever easy for me, but I have no control over making anything move faster, so I have learned to accept it, even though I don’t like it.

Speaking of patience… can you share a little bit about the early stages of your publishing journey – beginning with the query trenches? (Trust me- they’re called “trenches” for a reason). And for some readers who may be unfamiliar with what the query “trenches” are, can you explain briefly what that expression means- and any words or wisdom you have on how to successfully navigate this tough terrain?

I’m certainly quite familiar with the query trenches—that painful place of spending the amount of time you’d put into a part-time job to research and send your book babies to agents, then wait (often months, even over a year, in some cases) to be told mostly no or to hear nothing back at all. It’s difficult. It’s arduous. It hurts. I’m back in the query trenches right now. More on that later.

Do you recall the first rejection you received? And what was your thought process?

I don’t remember the first rejection specifically, but I do remember feeling a bit like a real writer because I knew writers received a lot of rejections.

What made you continue going and want to try again?

Well, if you want something bad enough, you’re going to get back up on that horse and try again, right? As much as it hurts, if you’re a writer and you want to get published, you have to try, try again. If it’s too tough on your mental health, you may take a break for a while. But eventually, if that’s your dream, you’re going to have to try again.

Rome wasn’t built in a day… and books aren’t published in one either. It’s a long process. People who don’t work in publishing often have little clue as to just how much goes into ONE book deal and how much TIME goes into it as well- especially in the kidlit arena, where you’re also dealing with illustrations and art directors and all that fun stuff. The time can be challenging- even for authors who have been published and at this for years. Can you share any tips on what helps you pass the time?

My biggest tips are to continue reading, creating, and writing new/other works. Like many people, I fall into the constant email-checking trap. But that’s not going to help. It’s a much better strategy to do your best to forget about the thing you’re waiting on and get lost in another project.

Speaking of time… it takes time to climb a mountain. And publishing is, without question, a big mountain to climb. As much as we love hearing the successes- and we really do- and celebrating those positives with our fellow writing community, sometimes only hearing the good stuff can be disheartening to those who might wonder- “is it only me who’s struggling?” Is it easy for everyone else?” So, often in my interviews, I like to share both sides of the story. Because hearing the happy stuff can be just as important as hearing the hard stuff. What challenges have you faced in your writing career, and how were you able to overcome them?

I’ll talk more about a major challenge below. Suffice it to say, I felt I was moving backwards rather than forwards in my author journey. The way I’m overcoming it is to continue to write and create stories: poems, picture books, and middle-grade novels.

Now that we’ve conquered the mountain… I’d love to hear about the view from the top. It’s time for celebration!

Publishing abounds with opportunities for which patience is required. I found I needed an abundance of patience at every stage: writing, revising, receiving critiques, querying, submitting to editors, publishing. I wouldn’t say it was or is ever easy for me, but I have no control over making anything move faster, so I have learned to accept it, even though I don’t like it.

As much as it hurts, if you’re a writer and you want to get published, you have to try, try again. If it’s too tough on your mental health, you may take a break for a while. But eventually, if that’s your dream, you’re going to have to try again.

My biggest tips are to continue reading, creating, and writing new/other works. Like many people, I fall into the constant email-checking trap. But that’s not going to help. It’s a much better strategy to do your best to forget about the thing you’re waiting on and get lost in another project.

CELEBRATING THE VIEW: POSITIVES IN PUBLISHING

When did you sign with your first agent, and who did you sign with? (Agent/agency?)

I signed with my first agent in November of 2020. Unfortunately, I left her last May, so I’d rather not share those details.

Can you tell us how it all happened? Was it through regular querying? A contest? A special conference or query opportunity link? Etc.

I had done an Inked Voices picture book workshop with this agent. She really liked my story and messaged me to query her with it. I wasn’t sold on the changes she wanted, so I took a year before making them and querying her.

What was your agent call like, and when did you know that they were the right agent for you? Explain.
She said many flattering things about my writing. We discussed how she communicates and the ins and outs of the contract.

Finding an agent can be difficult. And having any offer can be tempting. But – is it the right offer? Can you tell us, in your own words, why having the “right” agent is so important? And in your opinion, what makes the “right agent” “right for you?”

Oh, my, Chelsea, you are so right! In my opinion, it’s quite difficult to tell if you are the right match for an agent based on your research of that person or from the call. You often truly won’t know until you begin working together. And sometimes, unfortunately, the relationship doesn’t work out. In my case, it didn’t work out.

Knowing how difficult it is to get an agent, I was afraid to leave. It was an extremely difficult decision, but it was the one I needed to make.

Okay- now you have your agent. It’s time to enter the submission period. What was that process like?

I signed with my agent in early November 2020. We went out on submission with IN THE PALM OF MY HAND mid-January of 2020, and heard that one of the six editors she sent it to was taking it to her team. Mid-April, Running Press Kids made an offer, and I was through-the-moon excited!

About how many manuscripts did your agent send out on sub once you signed, and to roughly how many publishing houses/editors? And what was the timeframe like?

I had an options clause, so we waited a year to send a second book to my publisher. My editor loved it, but she said they had to wait until they saw the sales numbers on pre-orders for IN THE PALM OF MY HAND. At that point, we sent a different, rhyming manuscript on submission. We received some great feedback but no takers. I was also learning to write middle-grade novels. My agent had her new assistant read my (third) middle-grade manuscript. I revised per her notes, and we sent that on submission to approximately nine editors. One of those was interested but had something too similar. So, in the 2 ½ years I was with my agent, she sent my options clause picture book to my editor and one picture and one middle grade out on submission. It’s a tough business.

By the way, I’m currently revising my fifth middle-grade novel. It’s contemporary with a twist of magic.

Who was the first publishing house/editor who you made your first book deal with?
As I mentioned, it was Running Press Kids (local to me in Philadelphia). My editor was Allison Cohen. She was truly magnificent to work with and extremely kind.

Okay… now, you have a bite! It’s your FIRST book deal. Walk us through the details… Tell us all the feels!

The team at Running Press Kids were all wonderful, including my publicist Becca Matheson. They treated me with respect and care. If I ever had a question, they were quick to respond.

Your debut, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND, came out in March 2023. We’d love to hear all about it! Can you give us a brief description of the story for readers who haven’t yet read it?

I’d love to! The blurb is: "On an ambling walk, a child discovers they hold the promise of larger worlds—forests and meadows—in the palm of their hand. An acorn becomes a tree within a woodland wonderland. A grain of sand becomes a sandcastle in a kingdom of imagination. By exploring nature’s tiniest details, they learn even small things, including them, contain infinite potential."

It received wonderful reviews from Kirkus Reviews and School Library Journal! Isabella Conti from Milan, Italy, is the illustrator. Her paintings are simply magical .

What was the inspiration behind writing this, and what do you hope to impart to your readers?

Besides being a nature lover, I also love poetry. The book was inspired by the opening lines of William Blake’s poem “Auguries of Innocence”:
To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.

I imagined how I might interpret this concept for a child. The story starts simply with an acorn in the palm of a child’s hand and builds into a forest and wider concepts of connectivity. Over time, a vast forest may spring from a single acorn. By extension, the child realizes the universe of possibilities growing inside him. This self-esteem boost provides a natural entryway into discussions about children’s passions and dreams. It gives them a chance to reflect on how they can reach for the stars and accomplish their hearts’ desires. I also hope readers notice the connectivity of the natural world.

Speaking of which… how has your story been received since your launch last year?

Everyone who reads it seems to really like it. I’m grateful that Running Press Kids published such a beautiful book.

Have there been any particularly exciting/memorable moments?


I had my launch party at my local library. It was a blast and a much-needed celebration after so many long years of struggle. People have privately sent me pictures of their kids holding the book, and these photos have meant a lot to me. I’ve done book festivals, a librarian conference, a teacher and reading specialist conference, library events, school visits (virtual and in-person), book store events and signings, and recently my first Family Literacy Night. My favorite part of these is seeing children enjoy the book I’ve had a hand in creating.

What has your favorite part of the publishing process been? Explain.

My favorite part of the publishing process has been finally getting to hold my published book. It was a surreal moment. But I don’t take it for granted. Every time I talk about IN THE PALM OF MY HAND, I feel a little thrill.

LAST WORDS

If you had to sum up publishing wisdom in just a few last words… what would you tell others who are pursuing publication?

Don’t give up!

Can you tell us three random things about you that not everyone knows? If you want, they can be two truths and a lie… but you’ll have to give us the answer to which one is the lie.

I attended Space Camp before my senior year of high school. I was a United Methodist pastor. I’m completely in love with my Westie pup, Mazy. These are all true .

Thank you so much for having me on your blog, Chelsea. I truly appreciate it!

It was my pleasure! Thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule to be here with us today and share so much of your heart with us. Sharing this stuff can be vulnerable and we certainly appreciate your honest and kind words. And we are so happy for you and your story, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND. Speaking of which… it's now time for the GIVEAWAY!

Jennifer is offering the following giveaway prize: a signed copy of her debut picture book, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND.

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Jennifer Raudenbush feels most alive when she’s creating stories, especially picture books, poetry, and middle-grade novels. Jen lives with her husband and teenage son in eastern Pennsylvania, where its natural beauty provides endless inspiration. She leads weekly write-ins as a volunteer with Inked Voices and biweekly write-ins with the eastern PA SCBWI. She has been published in Cricket and Little Thoughts Press children’s magazines, the 10.10 Poetry Anthology and Two Truths and a Fib Poetry Anthology. IN THE PALM OF MY HAND, illustrated by Isabella Conti, Running Press Kids (Hachette), is Jen’s first picture book. It was released on March 14, 2023.

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FEBRUARY 21ST, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH HYBRID AUTHOR AND ACQUIRING EDITOR of BLUE WHALE PRESS, ROSEANNE FRANK, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

Welcome back to another Feature Interview about kidlit publishing on Chelsea’s World of Books blog. Today is an exciting day! Not only am I coming to you with this terrific information from special guest, Children’s Book Author and Acquiring Editor at Blue Whale Press, Roseanne Frank, but it’s also the anniversary of my book birthday for ADHD AND ME. Hip-hip-hooray!

But before we get started… just in case this is your first time here, let me tell you a little about what makes feature interviews so great…

WHAT’S SO GREAT ABOUT FEATURE INTERVIEWS?

Feature Interviews are an INVALUABLE resource for kidlit writers and illustrators at every stage of their publishing journey. Not only are they a great way to stay current on market trends and learn more about the industry’s ins and outs, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publication from the perspectives of a diverse collection of creators. Personally, my favorite part about these interviews are the connections I’m able to make- and share with you all!

Every month, I sit down with members of the writing community (authors, illustrators, editors, and agents), and we discuss all things kidlit publishing.

Here are a few examples of topics:

  • Writing workshops and resources
  • Diversity in literature and why it matters
  • Where to find support and community
  • How to improve writing craft and set goals
  • How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
  • Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
  • Querying agents, contract negotiations, book deals, and time frames
  • And, of course- NEW BOOKS!

So, now that you know what to expect… let’s get into our interview.

Children’s Book Author & Acquiring Editor for Blue Whale Press, Roseanne Frank

Roseanne Frank is a former early childhood educator with a degree in reading and clinical diagnosis. Her journey to publication started in the adult space and spreads across the scope of both indie and traditional publishing. Roseanne is the social media director for the SCBWI Long Island, NY chapter, the founder of the site Parents Love Picture Books, and a freelance editor and writing consultant for Clear Fork Publishing and Kidlit41. In her free time, she enjoys hosting Elements of Picture Book Writing workshops for several local libraries. As of January 2024, she was appointed as Blue Whale Press’ new Editor of Acquisitions. When she’s not doing writerly things, she likes to watch old movies, especially old horror. She has two grown children, a delicious King Charles Cavalier, and a husband who has always been super supportive. She lives on the beautiful north shore of Long Island, NY, and wherever she goes, she has to have trees.

THE BEGINNING: WHY? WHEN? HOW?

Roseanne, it’s such a treat to have you with us today! The first question I love asking my guests is about the beginning. Why? When? How? Could you share the beginning stages of what led you to the wonderful world of literature?

Hi, Chelsea! Thank you so much for hosting me! I’m so excited to be here! My journey into writing is quite circuitous. It started while on the alumni board for the School of Education for Manhattanville College, and back in 2010, they had a call for articles for their newsletter. So, I submitted one on Multiple Learning styles in the classroom. When I saw my work in print, I was hooked! I continued to write articles for the newsletter (links to them are on my website) and then sought out other avenues to write. I found a site called Indies Unlimited. Each week they had a visual prompt for a flash fiction contest – you had to tell a story in 250 words or less. Foreshadowing for future writing endeavors? Perhaps.

I continued writing weekly for almost 7 years for other outlets and other contests and worked at honing how to tell a complete story that engages the reader in such a short space. I loved flash fiction – still do. It’s like a puzzle to try to write a micro-story that has a beginning that grips the reader, a rising action, and a satisfying ending. Then I leaned into my first love – children’s literature. It was there all along, just…dormant. I wrote a couple of too-long stories and sentthem out with too-long query letters, which – of course – received rejections. Then everything changed when I went to my first SCBWI event and met someone who would invite me to join their local critique group. This group of talented writers has been invaluable, and my children’s writing has improved on the fast track. And what I found was that my experience writing flash fiction was the perfect prep for picture book writing!


Which came first- being an editor or a writer? Explain.

Writing came first. But editing and critiquing are part of the process of learning how to look at a story, what works, what doesn’t, and why, and how to make it better. By critiquing others’ work you become an active learner of all the elements of picture book writing, and then it helps you craft your own well-written stories. I found that I loved pouring over other writers’ manuscripts and helping them create a story that not just conveyed their story idea but did it in such a way that employed all the exciting elements that make a great children’s book. During the pandemic, I opened a FIVERR account, and now I edit through that platform with a great following of return clients. Then I was added to KidLit411 resource website and as a freelance editor for Clear Fork Press.


Do you think one benefits the other? Explain.

I can’t stress enough the importance of reading, critiquing, analyzing, and giving feedback on other writers’ work to improve your own. The love of editing came out of writing. But by editing, my writing improves too.


What challenges have you faced along the way, and how have you been able to push forward?

Oh, buckle up for this one. ALICE IN THE PALACE was originally signed with a publisher in 2017. They closed before they even put out their first book. Then it caught the attention of an agent. Sent them more manuscripts and had a phone call. We got disconnected during the call and then (this is CRAZY) they ghosted me. ALICE was then signed with another publisher, which is where I was paired with the awesome illustrator, Ashleigh Heyns. The illustrations were almost done… and they closed. Ash and I continued to submit the manuscript as a team when Clear Fork picked it up. In the meantime, I continued to write and submit, and I signed with Touchpoint Press’ faith-based imprint for WHISPERS FROM GOD, due out this March, again after a long, bumpy road. ALICE is finally out in the world 7 years later.

How to push forward – that’s a great question because this industry is fraught with disappointment. Two things I felt kept me sane: a great support system (my writing pals), and always working on something else and submitting something new. One rejection in, send two stories out.

Two things I felt kept me sane: a great support system (my writing pals), and always working on something else and submitting something new. One rejection in, send two stories out.

WRITING ACROSS GENRES

You mentioned in your bio and application that you started out your career as an author in the adult space. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

I started writing flash fiction for adults. My stories tend to be like Twilight Zone episodes with a Stephen King vibe. I especially enjoy endings with a twist you never saw coming, which is how my adult collection, BITE SIZE READS, came to be. Sometimes my ideas aren’t quite kid-friendly, so writing for adults is a great outlet. Also, I write for adults under RB Frank to keep the genres separate.


How did you get from point A to point B, point A being the adult space and point B being children’s?

I think learning how to write concisely and effectively made moving to a picture book structure easier than, say, moving from longer narrative writing. So when I started with kidlit, I was already primed to write.


Do you still enjoy writing for both, or have you entirely switched to writing for children?

I am 97% with kidlit! I veer off to the adult space only occasionally with projects like KVETCH & SKETCH, which is a humorous art therapy and journal activity book – not for kids! And my one foray into the YA space with LEGACY & LEGEND. It’s historical fiction set in the Revolutionary Era on Long Island, with horror and paranormal elements woven in. It was a labor of love, a story that haunted me for a while that I needed to tell. I love that it’s a book for that in-between age group (MG & YA) that everyone says they’d like to see more of.

ROUTES TO PUBLISHING: INDIE VS TRADITIONAL, AGENT VS NO AGENT

Now, you’ve had experience with both independent publishing as well as traditional. Can you share a little bit about both experiences and explain some of the pros and cons of each?

After years of writing flash fiction, I found I had a collection of solid stories. And while organizing the stories, I found that they fell naturally into categories. I decided to self-publish. It wasn’t even a question if I should submit the whole collection anywhere because I had a vision for the presentation that was hyper-specific and really unique; the stories are grouped by how long they take to read. I love irony so although the stories are short, the title is not: BITE SIZE READS: slightly twisted, deliciously dark, really short stories for people with very little time or very short attention spans.

It was the same way with my picture book, THE WITCHES’ DANCE. I did the artwork and I had specific goals for the back matter to include recipes, activities, a read-aloud, and QR codes for links. I felt it was too directive to propose to a publisher, so this was another indie project.

The pros are that I had complete control over the production and distribution, and I kept a greater percentage of the royalties. The cons of self-publishing is that there is a learning curve to the process. Then there’s marketing – not unlike traditional publishing. My experience with traditional publishing is with a small publisher, and I will say that I do like working with small publishers as they are willing to include the author in all stages of production.

And regardless of which path you take, marketing ALWAYS seems to be a challenge. That’s why I started Parents Love Picture Books. It’s a way for readers and creators to connect easily.


What are some reasons you might recommend one vs the other and why?

If you have a very specific idea about your story and you are not willing to compromise on the story, or you envision the illustrations a certain way, then you may want to consider going indie. One of the services I offer is to work with authors in the creation of their book, compiling the illustrations and text – almost like an art director – and setting it up for publication on whatever platform they’ve chosen.

If you are a writer with a great story and you’re okay collaborating with an editor and letting an illustrator work their magic (because they do!), then send those babies out and find the perfect home for it!


As someone who has experience with independent publishing, what are some tips and suggestions you’d like to share with other authors or illustrators considering this route of publication?

Have a plan. Learn the process beforehand and the sequence of when things need to be done. I work with a lot of authors who self-publish, and more often than not, authors have the illustrations done before they choose the size of the book or the platform. Then, when we get to formatting, the authors have to pay to have the illustrations re-done because they’re the wrong size or ratio or they’re not the digital quality that is required.

Have a plan for which platform you want to use and familiarize yourself with their distribution, lead times, and royalty reporting. Make sure you’re okay with all those things.

Edit. Then edit again. Then have someone else edit it.

Make sure your illustrator is excellent. Artwork sells the book first. If you cheap out on the artwork, it will show.

Don’t use Comic Sans. For anything.

Familiarize yourself with other successful indie books and traditionally published books for what makes those books visually captivating.

Finally, your expenses should be for illustrations, editing, and maybe, formatting. The latter you can learn to do on your own. You don’t have to lay out thousands of dollars for an “all-inclusive” service; you can do it!


Are you currently represented by an agent/agency? If you are agented, can you share what some of the benefits are? If you’re not agented, are you actively querying for representation? Why or why not?

I am not represented and I'm not actively seeking representation at this time, but you never know. This is something that works for me. I feel I have the control to send the stories I want to the publishers that I think will be a good fit. Agents do great work, but I think they have so many clients they can’t represent ALL my stories. They are able to get into closed houses, but for me, right now, I’m okay pursuing smaller publishers.


This is all such brilliant advice, Roseanne. Thanks for giving our readers so much to work with and consider!

Have a plan. Learn the process beforehand and the sequence of when things need to be done. Have a plan for which platform you want to use and familiarize yourself with their distribution, lead times, and royalty reporting. Make sure you’re okay with all those things.

Edit. Then edit again. Then have someone else edit it. Make sure your illustrator is excellent. Artwork sells the book first. If you cheap out on the artwork, it will show. Don’t use Comic Sans. For anything.

Familiarize yourself with other successful indie books and traditionally published books for what makes those books visually captivating.

WRITING BLOGS, WORKSHOPS & RESOURCES

Let’s talk about writing resources & workshops. You mentioned that you’re the social media director for the SCBWI Long Island, NY chapter. How did you end up doing this, and can you tell us what it involves?

The position of social media coordinator for the LI chapter became available not long after I joined SCBWI, and I jumped on the opportunity to take that on. I like being involved and being on the inside of things. For almost 5 years now, I’ve posted on Instagram, X, and Facebook. Sometimes, I come up with posts on my own, share writing or illustrating information, repost events from SCBWI or other chapters, or promote events that we’re hosting.


For some of our aspiring writers who are very new to publishing and may not be familiar with SCBWI, would you mind telling us a little more about it and all of the things it offers? Why would a writer be interested in joining? What resources and opportunities will they find here?

SCBWI (Society of Children’s Book Writers & Illustrators) has been around for about 50 years. They are a worldwide organization that is dedicated to supporting children’s book writers and illustrators with events, resources, and networking opportunities. They also offer online events, in person conferences, showcases, awards, grants – you name it! You can find your regional chapter on their site scbwi.org. Membership is a game-changer if you’re serious about diving into kidlit.


You also mentioned being a freelance editor and writing consultant with Clear Fork Publishing and Kidlit411 website. Can you share more about this and the specific services you offer?

I edit picture books, novels, and business content. I offer consulting - which can include developmental edits, feedback & critique - for picture books only. Some clients have requested formatting and production services, so I offer custom orders for those services. I actually love doing that because I get to see a book from beginning to end! Anyone interested can find more detailed info on my site rbfrank.com – Consulting & Editing.


It's great to know that you offer these services! And earlier you mentioned Parents Love Picture Books, which is a website that you founded. Can you tell us more about what that is and how it began? What inspired you toward this venture, and when did you start?

Parents Love Picture Books is fairly recent, 2021. I realized that there wasn’t a One-Stop Shop for parents, teachers, or educators to just stop by and peruse new books. There are blogs and posts on social media and Amazon but not one place where they could see suggestions in one place categorized by fiction and non-fiction. It’s a simple site. New books highlighted on the homepage, a section for non-fiction, and an archive. Each book cover is clear and has a clickable link for easy purchase. A win-win for everyone!


I love that you saw the need for this and took it upon yourself to provide it. Congrats on such a wonderful idea!
But that's not all you offer in the way of resources. You also take an active interest in your local libraries. (Which, being a librarian myself- I am cheering for! I wish we lived closer so I could host you in our library!)


Let's talk about what role you play with your local libraries. Which is, hosting an Elements of Picture Book Writing workshop for multiple libraries in your community. Can you tell us how this all started? Is it something you do independently, or is it a partnership program? Do you create the materials yourself or use templates/information from a specific website or place? I'd love to learn more about it!

Teaching is always in my blood. Whether it’s kids or adults, it doesn’t matter. I enjoy being part of the learning process for both. I approached a few libraries with the idea of hosting a picture book writing workshop for adults (since I hadn’t seen one).

I run two workshops; one in the evening and the other during the day. The workshops are student-driven, and we focus on their work and the elements that make a picture book work. To start each class, I read a mentor text and then ask open-ended questions to determine where they are in the writing process. Are the participants looking at the superficial elements, or are they recognizing the deeper levels like pacing, language, page turns, and the relationship between art and text? Then I know how to proceed in our discussions, and we workshop their stories with everyone’s participation.


Wow, Roseanne. What a superstar! I love that you (again) saw a need that wasn't being met- and filled it. So, okay. You take notice- you decide what you want to do. Then what? What was the process like for getting into the library, and what kind of responses have you received from your attendees?

Approaching libraries is a lot like querying. I sent out emails with a proposal, and then I waited. The response from attendees has been great, and I’m so pleased about that. Our groups have people who return every session. I’ve come to know them and vice-versa, and they make hosting these writing groups so enjoyable. They’ve become not just a writing group but a social, engaging group. We eat lots of chocolate.

You can't go wrong with lots of chocolate and great company. I'm sure you're writing participants are very grateful to have a free program like this to help aid them in their writing careers! For these workshops.. are they something you regularly host, or is it a one-time event that you’ve done for various locations?

The sessions are 6 classes: one session in winter, two in spring, and two in fall. Right now, I’m in two libraries.


So cool! While we're on the subject of workshops… have there been any workshops that you’ve attended that you really enjoyed and would recommend to other writers/illustrators? If so, which ones were they and what made them special?

Any of the SCBWI events are great. I’ve attended webinars or in-person events from the parent SCBWI or virtual through other regional chapters. I find they’re affordable, and they always over-deliver! I love Rosie J Pova’s events, Storytime Sprint, Picture Book Summit, and Julie Hedlund’s events. Kidlit411 site and social media groups are invaluable for information and upcoming workshops. The blog Writer’s Rumpus has an extensive list every month of events and opportunities for writers and illustrators. The kidlit community is incredibly giving, and you can find lots of free opportunities on social media.


Can you share three (or more) resources or practices you’ve found to be most helpful on your writing journey?

Three things that I do that really help in all aspects of writing are:

- Read a lot of picture books.
- Be part of a great critique group.
- Be involved, whether it’s attending in-person or virtual events. Networking is invaluable, and you really get a pulse of the ebb and flow of children’s books and the market.


Do you have any suggestions or words of wisdom you’d like to share regarding workshops, resources, or something else?

When you read picture books, read them as a writer. Approaching a book as a reader is different than reading as a writer. Put your writer hat on and ask yourself questions about the elements that make your mentor texts work. How is the pacing? Is there an interesting use of language? How does the author build tension? How do the illustrations help tell the story, and why did they make those choices? Recognizing what works in other’s stories will help you in your craft as well.

So well put!

Read a lot of picture books. Be part of a great critique group. Be involved, whether it’s attending in-person or virtual events. Networking is invaluable, and you really get a pulse of the ebb and flow of children’s books and the market.

NEW VENTURES ON THE HORIZON: PUBLISHING HOUSES & SUBMISSIONS

If I remember correctly, January 2024 was the official announcement of your new position as Editor of Acquisitions at Blue Whale Press. Congratulations! How is that going? **Update for readers: Roseanne's official post for her position went out YESTERDAY- February 20th, 2024!**

So far, so good! Blue Whale is an imprint of Clear Fork Press, and Callie Lovvorn is the founder of both. From the very beginning, we had a similar vision for the imprint and are working to build a great front and back list.


What type of work does this position involve, and what kinds of stories are you/this publishing house looking to acquire?

I read submissions, and once acquired, I work with the authors on any edits to get it in the best shape for publication. We are looking to acquire STEAM and STEM chapter books, middle grade, and Hi-Lo. I’d love to see neuro-diversity characters who are part of the story, not the focus of the narrative. All kids should see themselves represented. I’d love a mini-Indiana Jones or a math whiz, as in the TV show NUMB3RS. I’m fascinated by cryptozoology, lost worlds, space, art history, and time travel (ie, Time & Again by Jack Finney or A Wrinkle in Time). We’re also excited to look for books that fill a niche of the lower YA genre. You can go to the Clear Fork or Blue Whale site or my MSWL.


Is your agency open to unsolicited submissions? If not, how can people submit?

We do accept unsolicited. There are gems out there. I know it! Please read and follow the submission guidelines on the website. We’ll be open at certain times of the year, so follow us on social media. **Note for readers- Blue Whale and Clear Fork websites are currently under maintenance during this relaunch time- please be patient. Once links are up and running correctly, I will post them here. **


Is Blue Whale Press a traditional publishing house or a paid-for self-publishing guided service and platform? And can you explain the difference between the two?

Blue Whale is a traditional publishing house, so we don’t offer advances but royalties from sales. The difference between a traditional house and a self-publishing or “vanity” press is that we don’t ask for any money upfront. The publisher gets paid when they sell books.


Any manuscript no-nos or tips you’d like to share with our readers?

Please, please, know how to format your manuscript. Following the guidelines shows me you are familiar with the industry and are taking the time to present your work in its best form. The query letter I’m not so particular as long as it includes all the information somewhere in it. There is a HUGE collection of resources and links regarding submissions on my site. Feel free to stop by and take a look!

Please, please, know how to format your manuscript. Following the guidelines shows me you are familiar with the industry and are taking the time to present your work in its best form.

BOOKS, BOOKS, BOOKS!

We've finally arrived at my FAVORITE part- the books! Can you tell us about your books and how they came to be?

Thank you so much for asking and for giving me an opportunity to highlight my work.

My kids and teaching littles are the inspiration for my children’s books. You just have to be present to see the unfiltered imagination that sparks ideas that, for us adults, have been tucked away. I’ll see a situation, and when I recognize an idea or theme, I ask those ‘what if ’ questions. One ‘what if ’ question leads to another until a story forms. Then I flesh out the characters, themes, and layers.

ALICE is about a princess whose imagination gets her into a bit of trouble with the king, and when he says, “No more pretending,” Alice isn’t Alice, and the palace is not the same. It’s a celebration of the joy of imagination and being your authentic self.

THE WITCHES’ DANCE was a poem I wrote for my kids one Halloween. It is about the witches who come to the clearing on Halloween night to dance around the firelight for their festive ball. It’s written in fun rhyme, and I include activities and a link to a read aloud with sound effects from Smarty Pants Magazine.

LEGACY & LEGEND started as a nightmare I had one night. Literally. I wrote down that one scene and then built the story from that. I wove in elements I love like horror, paranormal, history, and Celtic lore. The back matter is extensive, referencing real locations, legends, and religion.


For your children’s books, how did the illustration process work? Explain.

For THE WITCHES’ DANCE, I did the artwork. I was an art major and still work in various mediums. It was created with watercolor and collage.

For ALICE, I found Ashleigh Heyns from the publisher’s list of illustrators. It was a very collaborative process with the publisher and Ashleigh. Ashleigh is patient and super talented, and she was a joy to work with. Highly recommend working with her if you get the chance.


Any last words you’d like to share with those reading today?

- Comparison is the thief of joy. Everyone has a different path and their own timeline.
- Keep writing.
- Not every story is a winner. Some are just practice, and that’s okay.
- YOU CAN DO IT! You can!


Thanks so much for joining us today, Roseanne. Your interview answers were just terrific and I hope they can help others who read them today.

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DECEMBER 2023 FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH COPYWRITER AND CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR HOWARD PEARLSTEIN, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

Hello, and welcome back to Chelsea’s World of Books blog. It’s time for another Feature Interview. If this is your first time visiting, let me tell you a little about what makes these segments so valuable.

WHAT’S SO GREAT ABOUT FEATURE INTERVIEWS?

Feature Interviews are an INVALUABLE resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of their publishing journey. Not only are they a great way to stay current on market trends and learn more about the industry’s ins and outs, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publication from the perspectives of a diverse collection of creators.

Every month, I sit down with members of the writing community, and we discuss everything publishing.

Here are some of the things we talk about:

  • Writing workshops and resources
  • Diversity in literature and why it matters
  • Where to find support and community
  • How to improve writing craft and set goals
  • How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
  • Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
  • Querying agents, contract negotiations, book deals, and time frames
  • And of course- NEW BOOKS!

So, now that you know what to expect… let’s get into our interview.

Author Bio

Howard Pearlstein is the author of nine picture books that have been translated into five languages. His upcoming titles in 2024 and 2025 include This Book Is Not For You and The Bad Book for Good Kids, both published by Familius. Howard is also the founder of Copy Rocket, an advertising copywriting agency, and has worked on some of the world’s most popular brands, including Toyota, Verizon and Mitsubishi. A California native, Howard now lives in Birmingham, Alabama with his wife, Debi. Howard has three daughters, Amanda, Jacquie and Emily, who live across the country, and one dog, Maeby, who still lives at home.

bEGINNING

I love starting these interviews by asking my guests how they ended up in the wonderful world of kidlit. Can you tell us how you arrived here?

How I ended up in the world of kidlit is a much longer story than we have time for today. But I can say that in 2018, I went through a period of self-reflection. Up until that point, my entire career had been in advertising. I loved the career and was proud of the work I had created. But, as I looked back, I realized that I hadn’t created anything for myself, anything personal. Since advertising really is telling a story with an interplay of pictures of words, I had a revelation that I should be able to write picture books. Of course, I had no idea what I was doing, so the first thing I did was Google “How to write picture books.”

And you’re the founder of a copywriting advertising agency. Can you tell us how that lends a role in your writing career?

I’ve been a copywriter since graduating from college and I truly believe that my advertising experience has provided the perfect training for writing picture books. In many ways, the process is similar:

-	You have to come up with a concept on how you will communicate an idea.
-	You have to understand who your target audience is and what motivates them.
-	You need to know what goals you’re trying to achieve.
-	You then need to create words and visuals that go together to tell the story in the most creative way possible.
-	You also need to use the fewest words possible to get across your message.
-	You want the final product to be something that speaks to the audience on an emotional level since that’s what sells.

PUBLICATION ROUTE: QUERYING & SUBMISSIONS/ AGENTS & PUBLISHING HOUSES

Can you tell us a little bit about your publication route. When did you first start querying agents/submitting to publishing houses?

After deciding to write picture books in 2018, I began querying my first manuscript, Orange Porange, in 2019. 

Were you agented for your first book deals? If not, can you explain what the submission process was like when sending manuscripts directly to publishing houses? And share some details on the timeframe that it took for you to land your first publishing book deal?

I began the submission process without an agent. In fact, I just signed with an agent last month (finally), Jes Trudel with The Rights Factory. Without an agent, the submission process is extremely tedious. First, you have to find which publishers accept unsolicited manuscripts. Then you have to research each publisher individually to see if their list aligns with your story. Then, you have to put together a query letter. Since I was so new to publishing, I again had to turn to Google and ask, “How do you get a picture book published.” Luckily, there’s a wealth of great information available. 
With Orange Porange, I started querying in July of 2019 and was lucky enough to find a home for it in August with Marshall-Cavendish.

Now I understand you recently got some very exciting news. Would you like to share this with us?

I touched on it earlier, but I finally have an agent! I had queried Jes Trudel with The Rights Factory with a new manuscript, and, on her Query Manager page, she allowed authors to submit additional manuscripts. I took advantage of that and was definitely excited when she reached out to me and wanted to talk. We had a great Zoom call, and I signed with her about a week later.
 I do hope everyone keeps in mind that I’ve been querying agents relentlessly for 5 years. In fact, one agency told me to stop querying them altogether. Querying publishers and agents is not an easy process.

CHALLENGES, ROADBLOCKS & INSPIRATION

What are some difficulties you’ve personally faced throughout your publication journey and what helped you to overcome them?

Constant rejection is by far the biggest difficulty. You receive one form rejection letter after another – or nothing at all. For me, what helped to overcome this difficulty was always keeping my commitment to my goal (to be a picture book author) front and center at all times. Challenges, obstacles, and difficulties don’t matter when you’re 100% dedicated to your destination.

I love that! "Challenges, obstacles, and difficulties don't matter when you're 100% DEDICATED TO YOUR DESTINATION."

What has been your biggest source of inspiration to keep going?

My biggest source of inspiration is my desire to make a career out of writing picture books. Right now, the royalty checks don’t come anywhere close to paying the bills, so I know I need to keep writing more (and better) books to make that goal a reality.

AUTHOR EVENTS: SCHOOL & LIBRARY VISITS AND FESTIVALS (INCLUDE PICS)

Let’s talk about author visits! Being a librarian and kidlit author myself, author visits are one of my FAVORITE things! Can you tell us a little bit about some of your experiences visiting schools/libraries/festivals?

I just had my first author visit on Halloween, and it was fantastic. I wanted to make my presentation perfect, so I spent weeks working on it. I think this idea that it had to be perfect came from my advertising background, where so much is always riding on client presentations. My wife finally told me to just relax and have fun. I did and ended up having a great time presenting to first graders and then second graders. I’ve always heard that you have to be prepared for anything with school presentations. This is definitely true – and I wasn’t prepared for one question. I read one of my books, Tribeca, about a three-legged cat, and one of the students asked if I had a pet. We recently had to put our dog to sleep, so I was caught completely off-guard by the question and didn’t know what to say. I finally answered, “I used to.” So, besides that moment, the visit was awesome.
 I’ve also recently been trying to get out into the community by having a booth at a local farmers market and a book festival. Those have been a lot of fun and very rewarding in the sense that it’s very rewarding to hand someone something you’ve created, and they pay you for it right on the spot. I’m hoping that attendance at these types of events will lead to more exposure for me beyond the events themselves.
Any suggestions for authors or illustrators who may be newly debuting on how to go about booking visits like these?

I wish I knew the secret to cracking the school visit code. I got lucky with my one school visit because it was at my wife’s former school. I’ve reached out to other local schools and haven’t heard a word back from any of them. I’m thinking the key to this, just like getting published, is to be completely committed and to not let anything deter you. 

PUBLISHING RESOURCES & TIPS

If you had to share three of the greatest resources you’ve found in the kidlit publishing industry so far, what would they be, and why are they so valuable?

There are so many resources out there that it’s difficult to choose just three. When I began writing picture books, I simply scoured Google for any and all info I could find. I can’t remember all the sites I visited. However, once I started submitting, I found several good resources for finding publishers that accept unsolicited manuscripts. One source for that that seems particularly thorough and up-to-date is https://bitsykemper.com/publishers/. I also listened to quite few podcasts. Two that I found the most useful The Yarn (Travis Jonker and Colby Sharp) and Literaticast (Jennifer Laughran). Finally, there’s a regular newsletter called QueryTracker Weekly Update. I think it’s by the same company that does Query Manager. Anyway, this newsletter provides updates on which agents are open for submissions and the genres they represent. It’s where I saw that Jes was open, so I highly recommend that people sign up for it.
 
Are there any tips you would like to share with our readers that you wish you had known when you were just starting down the road of kidlit publishing?

Besides not knowing anything about picture books, I also didn’t know how slow the publishing industry is. Having spent my entire career in advertising, I’m used to a start-to-finish process that can take as little as the same day to maybe a month or so for large-scale TV commercials. With publishing, everything moves slowly. For example, I signed the contract for my book that’s coming out in 2025 back in 2021. 

And now, we’re moving onto my favorite part of the interview- the books!

BOOKS!

I would love to hear about some of your books and the inspirations behind them! Could you tell us a little about them?

Here’s the inspiration for a couple of books:

Connor Crowe Can’t Let Go

•	My wife and I went out to breakfast one day and it seemed like every parent was on his or her phone rather than paying attention to their children. When the kids started getting antsy, the parents gave them their phones to occupy them. I thought this was incredibly sad to see families barely interacting with each other. I remembered a story from when I was little about a boy who pushed vegetables onto his fork with his thumb, even though his parents told him not to. He kept doing it and one day vegetables started growing from his thumb. At first it was cool, but then the vegetables grew out of control. I thought a similar premise could work for a boy who’s addicted to his device and then realizes the consequences. I wanted this story to be a cautionary tale about the dangers of choosing devices over people.

Tribeca

•	My oldest daughter Amanda, a lawyer with the department of justice, called me one day and said I should write a picture book about the three-legged cat she and her girlfriend had fostered and that was eventually adopted by a family with a three-legged dog. I told her it was a great idea, but I’d only write it if she wrote it with me. Luckily, she agreed. I wrote a first draft, sent it to Amanda, she refined it, and then we went back and forth a few times to fine tune it. Writing the story from Tribeca’s perspective and about the thoughts and fears a foster cat could have made the process a lot of fun. When we started sending out queries, one publisher, Margie Blumberg from MB Publishing, gave us some really wonderful feedback. We revised the manuscript with her insights and continued with the querying process. I really think her input helped this story get out of the slush pile.

Do you have a favorite book that you’ve published? If so, which one and why? (If you have more than one favorite- feel free to share!)

Orange Porange is near and dear to my heart because it was my first published book (and I think the story is funny and sweet). But, I have to say my favorite is The Old Man Eating Alone. First, I really love that it has such a different premise than most picture books. It covers death and dying and it’s about a friendship about an old man and a young girl. I also love the illustrations by Hilde Groven. I think they’re beautiful. But the main reason it’s my favorite is because it was inspired by my youngest daughter Emily. She has always been very empathetic and one of the things that upset her the most, from a young age, was seeing old men eating by themselves. I have no idea why. But I took this idea of an old man eating alone and thought about how I could transform this sad premise into something else. While the story has sadness and deals with dying, it gives the reader an opportunity to look at loss from a different perspective.

Do you have a favorite spread in your books? We’d love to see it/hear about it! Why is it your favorite? And who is the illustrator behind it? (feel free to share pictures of your favorite illustrations if you’d like to!)

I have so many illustrations that I love, but I’ll include one from Orange Porange. One of the main reasons that it’s so special is that it was illustrated by my friend and former advertising partner, Rob Hardison. When I was learning about picture books, everything I read said that the publisher chooses the illustrator. But when I signed the contract with Marshall-Cavendish, they said that I could choose my own illustrator. Rob and I had worked together for years and had done so many great ads. I knew he was a talented illustrator, so I asked him if he wanted to work with me on this. Luckily, he did. We conceived the idea of the characters together, but then Rob brought them to life perfectly. I chose this particular illustration because I love the way Rob made Orange and Purple look so happy. I have no idea how, with just a few lines, he was able to have them express so much joy.

Thank you so much for being with us today, Howard, and for sharing all this great information with our readers. We’re so glad to have had you with us. But don’t go away just yet- because we’ve now arrived at our PRIZE GIVEAWAY portion of the interview.

GIVEAWAY PRIZE

During the month of December, 2023, Howard is offering the following giveaway prize to one winner:

A classroom/library visit (zoom / in person, if local) or book reading.

* LIBRARIANS AND TEACHERS, WE’RE LOOKING AT YOU!*

HOW TO ENTER THE GIVEAWAY

During the month of December 2023:

  1. Subscribe to the blog
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  3. Leave a comment below letting me know you’ve done both. (If the guest is offering more than one prize, please specify which you’d like in the comments below.)

Entry window: December 1st-31st.

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2024 FEATURE INTERVIEW GUEST LIST WITH CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN, CHELSEA DICICCO

WOW, WOW, WOW!

Hello writing friends! Welcome to my official 2024 Feature Interview Guest List announcement post. If you've kept up with my social media, it's no secret that this year's Feature Interview candidate list was nothing short of incredible. The number of talented applicants from all over the world that flowed into my inbox in just a little over a month was astounding. So much so, in fact, that it inspired me to DOUBLE up my guest list. That's right-- now, instead of one Feature Interview a month, you'll be getting two! 

And that's not the only change coming your way in 2024. In times past, I've made it my goal to post a new Feature Interview the first of every month (rain or shine). Now, my Feature Interviews will be on a set schedule: every first and third Wednesday of the month. And... if you subscribe to my newsletter (which I hope you will) you'll get a VERY brief, one paragraph email from me on the last Friday of each month that says, "Hi! These are the guests who came on the blog this month. These are the topics we discussed. Interested in reading about them? Here are the links: Link. Link." Bada-bing. Bada-boom. That's it. Simple. Brief. Helpful.

I'm sure, you probably already know the spiel on why Feature Interviews are SO invaluable, but for anyone who doesn't know- simply put, they are a free publishing resource *AKA THE INSIDE SCOOP* directly from authors, agents, editors, illustrators, etc. AHEM. Did you hear the part where I mentioned they are FREE? Yeah. That's always a good incentive. Who doesn't love a bargain?

But, that's not what we're here to talk about right now. Chances are, many of you who are reading this blog entry today are most likely curious and antsy to find out if YOU will be one of these special guests. Well, the wait is almost over! I'm about to tell you. But first, I want to share a little bit about the process.

THE PROCESS

Please be assured, the process for choosing my final guests wasn't taken lightly. I studied and studied and studied each candidate application, giving as much consideration to a numerous list of variables, to come up with a diverse list of minds and perspectives. But, when being faced with as MANY applications as I was, it comes down to making very tough choices between equally talented and inspired voices and stories. And guess what? It was HARD.

In truth, my heart would love to have EVERYONE, but my brain reminds it that this simply would not be realistic. Blah, blah, blah. You know how brains are. So logical.

So, after many cups of tea, refills of espresso, and rants on there not being enough time in a day, I finally landed on my final 24 guests. 

Below, you will find a list of their names, as well as a "guest teaser," with a photo, brief bio, and links to find out more.

Please note: if you do not see your name on this list, please, please do not assume that your application wasn't "special enough." Because it most definitely was. The choice was not a personal reflection of you or your story- simply a matter of only having so much availability. Additionally, I would LOVE to hear about your future publications! If you have a book coming out in 2024, please drop a comment below with the title/ISBN, as well as the pub date (or estimated pub date) and I would love to add it to my library order list and help share it with my writing/reading friends!
If your name and bio are up here- CONGRATULATIONS! I can't wait to talk with you more. Make sure to keep an eye on that inbox because you'll be receiving a personalized letter very soon. (Well, I hope it will be very soon.)  If your name and bio weren't on the list... but you did submit your application within the window, I'll be sending an email your way as well. 

Thank you ALL for participating in this year's application process. It was truly a treat to read all of your heartfelt applications.

Reminder: if you haven't already, make sure to SUBSCRIBE to the blog, so you don't miss out these wonderful monthly Feature Interviews. They are always filled with a ton of interesting and helpful writerly advice and information on all things publishing.

Psst! By the way... looking for great books? Visit MY SHOP PAGE on bookshop.org. There you can find my personalized book recommendations in my A MIX OF CHELSEA'S ALL TIME FAVORITES book list or browse books by my Feature Interview guests in my BOOKS BY FEATURE INTERVIEW GUESTS book list.