In today’s Feature Interview, I’m chatting with Cindy Williams Schrauben about growth mindset and the value of reading aloud. We’ll also discuss ways to put yourself out there as an author and share personal experiences of the author journey.
Cindy, it’s my pleasure to welcome you to the Feature Interview guest series. Could you tell us where you’re joining us from today?
Hi Chelsea. Thanks for having me. West Michigan.
How did you hear about the Feature Interview series, and what made you want to apply?
I follow you online and admire your content.
Could you tell us what kind of books you write? (Age group and genre).
I have written books for children, including picture books and a middle-grade novel, which is in the works. I will also be venturing into the adult novelty book market soon.
When did you first begin your writing journey, and what did those beginning stages look like for you?
I jumped into the journey with both feet when my daughters left for college. It was time to challenge myself. It took nearly 8 years of studying, attending conferences and classes, and penning several manuscripts before I was able to realize my life-long dream of publishing a picture book.
What are some of the challenges you’ve faced on your author journey, and how were you able to stay the course?
The challenges were many, but I think the hardest part was believing in myself enough to ‘stay the course’ as you say. The key for me was getting involved in the kidlit community – joining critique groups, reading about other authors’ journeys, entering contests and challenges, etc. These connections gave me courage and helped me to manage my expectations.
What have been some of your greatest joys and highlights in publishing?
There are so many – receiving a book deal, seeing the illustrations for the first time, getting a starred review from Kirkus, etc. I am also looking forward to an upcoming visit to a children’s hospital to read to some brave kids. I also love encouraging aspiring authors, but the best part continues to be sharing my love for books with kids.
When would you say it’s “too late” to pursue publishing?
Never! My first book was published just after my 63rd birthday, and I don’t plan to stop anytime soon.
Why would you say it’s beneficial as an author to put yourself out there? And what are some different ways/examples of doing this?
It can be exhausting, but publishing a book isn’t enough if no one sees it. Interviews such as this, blog tours, giveaways, social media posts, in-person events, etc all help with visibility. It is hard, though, because there needs to be a balance between self-promotion and providing valuable content. I try to follow the 80/20 Rule – 80% content for authors or parents/teachers (such as the social media post below) and 20% book promotion. For content, I have chosen to concentrate on the topics of Growth Mindset and Social-Emotional Learning.
What kind of author events have you been a part of locally or otherwise, and how did you go about setting up these events? Did your publisher/marketing team reach out? Did you reach out? Was contact made via phone/email,/in-person?
I attend and/or organize events on a regular basis, ranging from book festivals, bookstore signings, school visits, launch parties, local media appearances, podcasts, etc. I was responsible for setting up most of these on my own (usually via email). I have three tips. First – go where the kids are instead of hoping they will come to you. I held the launch event for my first book, THIS COULD BE YOU, at a children’s museum on a busy Saturday. Over a hundred kids were already visiting the museum that day, so my audience was ready-made. That leads to tip number two – just ask! The museum was a dream location, and I never expected it to come to fruition, but the staff was excited to bring a unique opportunity to their visitors. The third tip is this– don’t be discouraged when you plan an event, and no one shows. It has happened to all of us. Evaluate the situation and improve your processes for next time. I also encourage other authors to think beyond your book in order to offer great programs for your community. I recently partnered with a local elementary school to break a Kid’s World Record entitled “The Most Children Sharing Handmade Hearts.” Though this event matched the theme of my second book, HANK’S CHANGE OF HEART, the day was about celebrating kindness rather than the book specifically. It was great fun and happened just because I asked (Tip #2, again.)
We’d love to hear about some of your author events and experiences and see some photos if you would like to share a few!
When reading over your bio, I loved how you described your books as being books to “inspire kids to live their best lives.” Could you elaborate on what this means to you?
Sure! Encouraging kids to love books and reading is, of course, a big part of my journey, but it goes further. Both of my books have a social-emotional learning foundation. I am a firm believer that books can provide learning opportunities without being preachy. HANK’S CHANGE OF HEART applauds kindness and sharing, while THIS COULD BE YOU empowers children with a growth mindset by persuading them to believe in themselves.
Let’s talk a little bit about growth mindset for home and in the classroom. In your application, you expressed your passion for empowering parents and children with a growth mindset and inspiring them to learn from each other as they go. Can you talk a little bit more about how you do this?
Growth Mindset is a term coined by Dr. Carol Dweck from Stanford University. Her research shows us that we can develop our abilities through dedication and hard work and that failure helps us to learn and improve. I love to talk with kids about famous people who have achieved great things after facing years of defeat. By understanding the power of a growth mindset, adults can make a huge difference in the lives of children. It is often as simple as changing our vocabulary. For example, “I can’t do it” vs. “It didn’t work, yet, but I’m still trying.”
I know you also have a collection of growth mindset activities and educator guides. I’d love to add a link to those for readers to have access to on Teacher Corner as well!
While we’re on the classroom side of things, could you talk a little bit about reading aloud and its value?
There is a great deal of research out there to support the value of reading to kids. The advantages range from improving a child’s own reading abilities and listening skills, expanding their vocabularies and language skills, to fostering bonds. A statistic that always amazes me is this one from the Child Mind Institute: “… young children whose parents read to them daily have been exposed to at least 290,000 more words by the time they enter kindergarten than kids who aren’t read to regularly. And depending on how much daily reading time kids get, that number can go up to over a million words.”
Now, for our writers out there, could you tell us a little bit about mentor texts? What are they? How do you use them? How can they be helpful?
Mentor texts are valuable for writers in a number of ways, ranging from learning about the industry and what is being published to honing our own craft and revising. There is nothing more helpful, in my mind, than reading the work of other children’s book authors and asking, what works? What doesn’t? Why? And how can I apply that to my own work?
Is there any particular book/author that inspires/inspired you to write?
I have always been enamored by rhymers like Dr. Seuss and Shel Silverstein. I love to write in rhyme – it’s like a puzzle.
What advice would you like to offer writers who are just beginning their publishing journey?
Don’t give up. The journey can be long and hard, but it is worth every moment. I have a YouTube Podcast to encourage authors. You can take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/@Cindy-Williams-Schrauben
Thank you so much for joining us today, Cindy!And now it’s time for our FIRST giveaway pool of the year.
GIVEAWAY This month, Cindy is offering an AMA Zoom. (two winners)
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Cindy Williams Schrauben lives in West Michigan, where she writes books for children that range from the truly serious to the seriously silly. When not writing or sharing her books, this award-winning author might be found dissecting her grandsons’ shenanigans for story ideas, reading on the beach, or eating ice cream… ideally all at once. Her books, THIS COULD BE YOU (starred review from Kirkus) and HANK’S CHANGE OF HEART, inspire kids to live their best lives. You can connect with Cindy at http://www.cindyschrauben.com.
Today, I’m talking with the educator, children’s book author, and founder of Happy Days in First Grade Teaching Blog, Ha Dinh.
But before we jump into our interview, if this is your first time visiting the blog, here’s the scoop on Feature Interviews.
THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?
Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.
Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.
What can these interviews offer YOU?
These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:
stay current with market trends
hook an agent or editor
find writing community & other resources
discover workshops, contests, and other writing events
figure out which path of publication is right for you
know if your agent is a good match
And more!
AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month! *If you’re interested in entering the giveaway, scroll to the bottom of the interview for instructions.* Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!
THE BEGINNING: ROAD TO PUBLISHING
Welcome, Ha Dinh! It’s so nice to have you with us today. I love having educators on the blog because I feel like they have a special connection to the world of kids. Which is especially great when writing kidlit. Speaking of which…
The first question I love asking my guests is how they landed here in the world of publishing for children. How and when did your publishing journey begin?
First and foremost, thank you so much, Chelsea, for having me and allowing me to share my stories with you and your audience! I have always wanted to be a Children’s book author since I was a kid but never seriously pursued it until 2020 when my beloved mom passed away. I realized then that if I didn’t write the stories that were inspired by my childhood and my culture, they would be lost for my children and all the children who may also need them.
Once I wrote the draft of my debut picture book, WHERE WILDFLOWERS GROW, I worked on revising and editing it for a year before entering the #PBPitch Contest on Twitter, where I luckily found my agent and editor for the book.
Have you always enjoyed writing and/or reading?
Growing up, I loved journaling and writing. But since I came to America when I was 5 years old and didn’t know English, learning the language was a daily challenge for me. Reading allowed me to learn English and reading picture books encouraged me to write my own stories.
-I love this! What a special connection you had with books at that young age.-
Do you think your role as an educator influenced/influences your inspiration for writing and publishing?
I know in my heart that being an educator propelled me to my dream as an author. While I always loved writing, I also saw the lack of Vietnamese-American representation and stories in the children’s book space. As an educator, I knew that that was a need that I could meet for our children.
Can you walk us through some of the stages of how you got your footing in kidlit?
Starting a new journey can be daunting with so much uncertainty. I was so nervous since I didn’t know anyone personally who had been traditionally published. However, through various online contests including #PBChat, #PBPitch, and #50PreciousWords Contest and SCBWI, I have been blessed to have met many encouraging fellow creators and industry professionals, who allowed me to share my work, hone my craft, and supported me in my journey.
ROUTES TO PUBLISHING & CHALLENGES
I know you’re represented by Belcastro Literary Agency, which tells me that you were interested in going the traditional route to publication rather than independent. For some of our readers who are considering which route to take (and what the differences are), could you share a little bit about how these paths differ and why you chose to go the traditional route?
With teaching full-time, raising young children, and running my teaching resource online business, my time for writing and publishing was very limited when I started my journey. Therefore, I knew that the traditional route was best for me as it has allowed me to stay creative, and my wonderful agent has been amazing at handling more of the business side for me.
Any words of wisdom or advice you’d like to share with writers and/or illustrators who are trying to decide what course to take?
I think the best advice is to follow your heart and take the route that you feel is best for you.
What have been some of the challenges you’ve faced on your publishing journey, and how have you been able to endure/overcome them?
Rejection is such a big part of publishing, and while it’s something that we all can expect as creators, it still stings. However, I have learned that rejection is redirection and when our work lands in the right hands, all the heartache was all worth it even if it took some time to find the right match.
-Beautifully put. “…Rejection is redirection.”-
Do you have any favorite writing resources, tips, or organizations that have helped you to stay on the path?
My favorite tip is to continue to be open to inspiration. Sometimes a small conversation or a mention of a memory from childhood can spur into an entire story for me. When that happens, I feel like the story writes itself in my head and I’m just capturing it with my words.
Rejection is such a big part of publishing, and while it’s something that we all can expect as creators, it still stings. However, I have learned that rejection is redirection and when our work lands in the right hands, all the heartache was all worth it…
eDUCATIONAL RESOURCES: KIDS AND FAMILY
We touched briefly on your educational background. Could you tell us more about that? How long have you been teaching, and what specifically (age range/subjects) do you teach?
After receiving my bachelor's degree in English and Humanities from the University of Louisville, I received a Master of Art in Teaching degree in Early Elementary Education. In addition to wanting to be an author, I always wanted to be the kind of teacher that I was so blessed to have had growing up. I taught for three years in second grade and 13 years in first grade. After 16 years of teaching, I felt it was the right time for me to dedicate myself to writing and creating educational resources full-time.
Speaking of education… let’s talk about your teaching blog, Happy Days in First Grade. When did you first launch your teaching blog, and where did you find the inspiration for it?
When I started teaching in 2007, I found myself scouring the internet for hours at home looking for teaching resources for my classroom. After years of searching, I decided to create what I needed for my classroom instead and began sharing what I made with other teachers online. What started as a hobby quickly turned into a business that has allowed me to support myself, my family, and my community of elementary educators who love finding new, innovative, and engaging ways to reach and teach their students.
Could you tell us a little bit about the resources you offer there and who they are for?
I create teaching resources mostly for the primary grades (kindergarten, first grade, and second grade). From core subjects to classroom decorations to organizational tools for teachers to STEM to Makerspace teaching materials and more, my resources are created to help students have fun while learning and growing.
I love sharing educational resources with readers and would be thrilled to add your Happy Days in First Grade Teaching Blog to my list of resources on Teacher Corner on my website. *If you have any extra resources you’d specifically like to share, please send me an email with any/all, and I’d be happy to add them too. If you’d like to see examples, check out the “teacher corner” tab and see what other authors have there.*
Thank you so much! ** Grab your free WHERE THE WILDFLOWERS GROW activity packet & educators guide on TEACHER'S CORNER of this blog by CLICKING HERE.**
What kind of feedback have you received from your audience?
I have been so lucky to receive many wonderful and glowing reviews from my audience. In the 10 years since opening my store, I have received 8,200+ reviews with a 4.9/5 rating.
What do you hope your readers will gain from visiting your blog?
Besides classroom activities, there are lots of book lists with recommendations for various holidays and seasonal themes, information on my picture books and upcoming projects, Author Visits, my TpT Shop, travel ideas, and insights into my Author Life.
BOOKS AND REPRESENTATION
We’ve arrived at the book portion of the interview. Hooray! Tell us about your books.
My debut picture, WHERE WILDFLOWERS GROW, was inspired by my memories of living and leaving a refugee camp in the Philippines in 1989 for America after my family and I had moved from Vietnam. While it is an immigration story, it is also a story of friendship, joy, and finding hope in new beginnings no matter where we are. WHERE WILDFLOWERS GROW was published in 2023 by Waterbrook & Multnomah, an imprint of Penguin Random House and edited by Bunmi Ishola.
My second book, THE JADE BRACELET, is based on a jade bracelet that my late mom gifted me when I was seven years old. Similar to my feelings toward the bracelet at the time, the main character loves her mom but would rather blend in at school and wear the same colorful and sparkling bracelet that her friends wear at school instead. When Picture Day with the bracelet turned into a big ordeal, the main character has to decide if she wants to keep the bracelet or buy a new one. It is a book on understanding and appreciating one’s own family traditions while still holding onto one’s identity. The book is slated to be released April 2025 by Random House Studio and was edited by the Maria Modugno.
My third book, THE MOON LANTERN, follows Huy, a Vietnamese-American boy who wants to celebrate the Mid-Autumn Festival with his own lantern. As other children make traditional star lanterns for the holiday, Huy makes one to honor the moon instead. This story introduces readers to this wonderful festival that is celebrated by numerous Asian countries while also sharing the mythical tale of a poor Vietnamese woodcutter and his magical banyan tree that is at the heart of the festival.
Writing is such a personal thing. And it can be vulnerable, too. Which is, I think, a big part of what makes books so beautiful and important. At its core… writing is an expression of oneself. Can you tell us… what does each story mean to you personally? And what do you hope it will offer readers?
Each story means so much to me and was written with so much reflection and inspiration from my childhood memories. WHERE WILDFLOWERS GROW reminds me of finding hope in new beginnings, THE JADE BRACELET reminds me to hold onto family traditions as treasured gifts, and THE MOON LANTERN reminds me of finding beauty in traditions while also making them uniquely our own.
In recent times, we’ve seen a huge effort in today’s society to help boost previously underrepresented voices and stories and give them the space they deserve. In your interview application, you talked about Vietnamese American culture and how your stories offer representation that allows young readers to connect to characters who are experiencing similar emotions and events while also learning more about experiences that they may not be familiar with. Can you talk in more detail about this?
While there is more Vietnamese American representation in Children’s literature in the last 5 years, there are still so many more Vietnamese American stories to tell, characters to write, and perspectives to share. I hope that with the addition of my books and those of other Vietnamese American authors, libraries across the country will be filled with more representation for our community and children everywhere.
-I love this thought!-
In your words… why is representation in literature so important?
Representation in literature helps all of our readers feel seen, heard, valued, and connected to the world around them.
If you could leave your readers with any last thoughts, what would they be?
Follow your heart and make all your own dreams come true!
Thank you so much for joining us today. And now… It’s time for a GIVEAWAY
“Representation in literature [is important because it] helps all of our readers feel seen, heard, valued, and connected to the world around them.”
GIVEAWAY PRIZES
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-Picture Book MS Critique
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Author, mom, and founder of the Happy Days in First Grade Teaching Blog. Elementary school educator with 16+ years teaching experience. Debut picture book, WHERE WILDFLOWERS GROW was published in June of 2023 by Waterbrook and Multnomah, an imprint of Penguin Random House. Second book, THE JADE BRACELET will be released in the Spring of 2025 by Random House Studio.Connect IG & Twitter: @hellomrsdinhFacebook:@happydaysinfirstgradeWebsite/blog http://www.happydaysinfirstgrade.com
Please give a warm welcome to our guest, the very talented and passionate children’s book author, early literacy consultant, and founder of SmallTalk Learning, Dawn Prochovnic. A little history on my background with Dawn… I first met Dawn in the summer of July of 2022 during a virtual Peer Critique at SCBWI. Immediately, Dawn’s kind nature and deep concern for people, education, and children, was clear. So, when I saw her name in my applicant list for the 2024 feature interview lineup, I knew without a doubt I wanted to add her to our wonderful collection of voices and stories!
Before we jump into our interview, here’s the scoop on Feature Interviews.
411 ON FEATURE INTERVIEWS
What are feature interviews & WHO are they for?
Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.
Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.
What can these interviews offer YOU?
These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to
stay current with market trends
hook an agent or editor
find writing community & other resources
discover workshops, contests, and other events
figure out which path of publication is right for you
know if your agent is a good match
And more!
AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month!
Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!
INTRODUCTION: THE MAGIC OF PUBLISHING!
Welcome to the blog, Dawn! I’m so glad you’re joining us today.
I’m glad to be here. Thank you so much for having me! And thank you for such a kind introduction. My first question starts back at the beginning. I’d love to hear how you came to enter the truly MAGICAL world of kidlit publishing. How did it all begin? When did it all begin? Why did it all begin?
Back in the early 2000’s I had an idea for a series of stories that incorporated early childhood language concepts and American Sign Language/ASL. The stories were an extension of the materials I developed for the sign language and early literacy workshops I teach for hearing infants/toddlers, young children, and their grown-ups.
I discovered early on that the most effective way to help people learn and remember particular signs was to teach them catchy songs they could sing and sign while they interacted with their babies and young children.
-Yes! I love this! So very true.-
I wrote all kinds of ditties for this purpose, modeled after familiar children’s songs and rhymes like “Old MacDonald Had a Farm” and “If You’re Happy and You Know It.”
Soon, I discovered that preschoolers and elementary school children were also interested in learning sign language, and I developed an interest in expanding my reach beyond that which I could manage in my own classes. I wanted to share the joyful experience of signing with children and their grown-ups across the miles and decided the best way to do that would be to publish a handful of my workshop songs in the form of picture book stories.
And so, my journey to publication began. Can you tell us a little bit about the steps involved in your publishing journey? Querying, contests, events, etc. What route of publishing did you decide on and why? Explain. *indie/traditional*
My journey to publication was long and winding, but fairly traditional.
I initially approached my quest to become a published author in the same way I approached many other business endeavors. I began by putting out feelers to my network of friends and professional associates that I was in search of an illustrator and publisher to partner with/hire to help me get my books out into the world. This was LONG before self-publishing was “a thing,” and I soon discovered that was not how publishing was done.
The good news is that through this networking process I heard about the (since discontinued) Pacific Northwest Children’s Writing and Illustrating Conference.
-How wonderful! I love learning things like this.-
I attended in the summer of 2004, full of enthusiasm and eager anticipation to get on with the business of getting my books published. I was completely naïve about how the publishing industry works, and I boldly asked every ignorant question I could think of.
-Part of the learning process. I think this is a common phenomenon for most "passionate" people who start in kidlit- because they're excited and they care!-
Thank heavens I was completely unaware that the guest editor at the conference (Arthur A. Levine, the esteemed editor of the Harry Potter dynasty) was famous in publishing circles, or I might have died of embarrassment.
-Get out. So funny!- -I know, right?!-
And, thank heavens that Arthur Levine was so kind and encouraging, or I might have set aside my goal of getting my books published (because truth be told, my stories were not ready for publication back then).
-I'm so glad you had this positive experience. This can make all the difference. Finding kind people in publishing to give you that extra push. For me, it was an agent- Jennifer March Soloway. I queried her WAYYYYY before I should have been sending my work out *I just didn't know it yet* I hadn't had my work revised or looked at by CP yet- *I didn't even have CP yet or know they existed.* But she was kind and encouraging and helped point me in the right direction.- -I met Jennifer at a writing conference in Portland several years back. I found her to be kind and delightful as well.-
After that conference I formed a critique group and I joined the Society of Children's Book Writers and Illustrators / SCBWI. With the support of these groups, I worked diligently on one of my stories, SEE THE COLORS, and when I felt it was ready, I submitted my first manuscript to Arthur A. Levine Books, which was an imprint of Scholastic back then. Arthur was once again, kind and encouraging, and I will always treasure the personal letter he sent to me, gently declining my story . Over the next several years I continued to do the work of a writer, inventing new stories (many of them unrelated to my original signing idea), revising, and asking for critique over and over again. I was helped and encouraged along the way by the other writers in my critique group and by the many talented authors and editors I met at other writing conferences.
-So beautiful. I love your commitment.- -Thank you, Chelsea. I love your positive energy and enthusiasm.-
As I developed an inventory of manuscripts that were ready for submission, I studied publishing houses and began the task of submitting my work. Over time, the editorial correspondence I received shifted from form letters to personalized notes with suggestions for revision and/or ideas for other publishers that might be a better fit for my work. The message was coming through: Several of my stories were publishable; I just needed to find the right publisher.
I initially approached my quest to become a published author in the same way I approached many other business endeavors. I began by putting out feelers to my network of friends and professional associates that I was in search of an illustrator and publisher to partner with/hire to help me get my books out into the world.
As I developed an inventory of manuscripts that were ready for submission, I studied publishing houses and began the task of submitting my work. Over time, the editorial correspondence I received shifted from form letters to personalized notes with suggestions for revision and/or ideas for other publishers that might be a better fit for my work. The message was coming through: Several of my stories were publishable; I just needed to find the right publisher.
What would you say was the pivotal point for your publishing career? Did you have any -AHA- moments where things just clicked?
The pivotal moment that comes to mind is when, at long last, a door to the just-right publishing house opened. I went to an author book sale/signing event called “Book Blast” in October 2007 at one of our local middle schools. It was a dark and stormy night. I almost didn’t go. My kids were squabbling. It would have been easier to stay at home. Thank goodness my daughter desperately wanted to meet one of the exhibiting authors, Bart King, the author of one of her favorite books at the time, “The Big Book of Girl Stuff.” So I piled the kids in the minivan, and we went to Book Blast. And then I met David. David Michael Slater. His picture books had an educational element to them. I could see my signing stories being a good fit for his publisher. I told him about that aspect of my writing, and he was kind enough to put me in touch with his editor at Abdo Publishing Group. And the rest, as they say, is history.
-This is truly a fascinating- and wonderful- story!-
When did you make your first book deal, and what publishing house did you sign with for that deal?
Abdo was a great fit for my signing stories, and I had several manuscripts that were ready for consideration. On January 22, 2008, at 12:02 PM, I received an email from an editor who would eventually offer me contracts for a total of 16 books with Abdo.
-Holy-guacamole- that's a lot of books!- -Indeed! It was a great run ; )-
I am still grateful to both Bart and David for their role in my journey to publication, and to Abdo for publishing so many of my stories.
When did you sign with your agent?
I signed with my very first agent on February 29th, 2024, just this past year, and nearly 20 years since I attended my first writing conference. Gaby Cabezut, with The Seymour Agency, is relatively new to agenting, but not new to the industry. I’m very grateful to now have such a kind, capable, and committed partner traveling alongside me on this journey. I’m looking forward to the many good things we will bring into the world, together.
-This is remarkable. What a journey. And you stuck it out! Congratulations, Dawn!! -Thank you, Chelsea. I feel very lucky to have connected with Gaby before she buttoned down on being open to submissions. It was serendipity!-
Can you share some of your favorite moments of the publishing journey?
There are so many favorite moments I’ve had in this journey, but one that comes immediately to mind is the first opportunity to hold my first published books in hand and share them with young readers.
My first book launch event was at the West Slope Community Library, a short walk from my home and next door to our local elementary school, where my children attended at the time. The community and my family and friends came out in full force. It was such a jubilant celebration.
-I'll bet it was!-
(As you might be able to guess from the pictures, one of the stories I read that evening has a “hat” theme!)
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH
Now that we’ve touched on the highs of publishing, let’s talk a little about the lows. What challenges have you faced on your publishing journey? How were/are you able to overcome them?
I’m pretty sure I could write an entire book on this subject alone! There have been so many challenges along the way.
Although I’ve definitely developed thick skin, rejection can wear away at you. Some highlights:
Over the years I’ve had a handful of agents “lead me on,” with detailed notes, high praise and encouragement, but not offer representation. I’ve had others love one of my stories, ask for more work and then ghost me. Others have sent a form rejection 2-3 years after I submitted to them. I’ve had acquiring editors deliver really harsh critiques at writing conferences, and I’ve had several manuscripts make it all the way through acquisitions only to have someone higher up put a nix on the project. I actually think the “close calls” have been harder for me than all the other rejections combined. One in particular was when an editor took one of my manuscripts all the way to the publisher with a sticky note naming the (famous) illustrator envisioned for the story. The publisher must have ended up declining since I got the manuscript back with the sticky note “conversation” still attached. So. Close. Happily, that story (THE NEST WHERE I LIKE TO REST) did eventually get published and actually was a finalist for Oregon’s annual book awards. I’ve overcome each of these obstacles by putting one foot in front of the other and moving forward. Day by day. Step by step.
-Fantastic words of wisdom. And way to go, Dawn. Never giving up! You are amazing.- -Thank you, Chelsea :)-
Was there anything in particular that really helped you that you’d like to encourage other writers to look into?
My best advice to other writers is to get yourself a writing buddy and exchange creative writing goals and goal reports with your buddy on a regular basis.
-Great advice!-
My longtime critique partner, Sara T. Behrman (whose debut picture book just came out this past April), and I have been exchanging creative writing goals with each other for nearly 20 years. I credit our shared discipline with that practice for helping keep me on track when I’m feeling unmotivated, frustrated, or otherwise experiencing a creative struggle. I rarely complete all of my weekly goals, but having them in front of me, knowing that I will be reporting my progress to someone week after week, helps me stay on track.
What words of wisdom would you share with an author or illustrator considering pursuing kidlit publishing?
I’d say my main words of wisdom would be to develop and articulate a mission statement and a strong creative vision for your books and for your career. Begin by giving some deep thought to why you’re doing the work that you do.
Many years ago, I wrote the following mission statement related to my writing work:
I write to teach, empower, process, and persuade.
When I wrote this mission statement, the word empower was meant to convey that I wanted to write books that empower my readers. There have been times, however, that adhering to my writing practices and routines has helped empower me, particularly during periods of time filled with uncertainty and powerlessness. I also encourage others (in any walk of life) to really think about, envision, and articulate what it is you want to create and accomplish. Some years ago, I wrote the following vision statement to help guide and shape my creative work:
My Vivid Description of the Future: -Kids and parents who sign will seek out my sign language stories. -My publisher will be passionate and informed about my projects. -Educators and librarians will read my stories to the kids they serve. -Because of my books, more and more libraries will contact me to request classes to teach them how to sign with their kids. -My books will open doors for me to travel to new places, meet new people and continue to provide opportunities for me to teach and encourage others. -My stories and workshops will bring the power of language and literacy to children.
-I love all of these, Dawn!-
Ideally, one’s vision and vivid description of the future becomes a living, breathing document that changes and develops over time, just as we each change, develop and grow over time. In fact, it’s about time for me to revisit my own envisioned future, as much of the above has since come to be!
The other thing I would share is a sentiment that was shared with me back when I was in grad school. One of my projects involved working with a local entrepreneur, and at the end of the project she gave me a tea mug with the following sentiment:
Do What You Love. Love What You Do. Strive to Be True to Yourself.
I think that’s a really important sentiment for writers and illustrators, too.
Before my first books were published, I was under the illusion that finding a publisher was the big, hairy, audacious goal. But I soon came to learn that after I signed with a publisher, the bulk of the work was still ahead of me: editing, more revision, more research, development and refinement of the back matter, input about design elements, marketing, etc. But finally, the wonderful opportunity to share my stories with readers, and the opportunity to inspire other writers. That is what makes it all worthwhile.
I’ve overcome each of these [publishing] obstacles by putting one foot in front of the other and moving forward. Day by day. Step by step
My best advice to other writers is to get yourself a writing buddy and exchange creative writing goals and goal reports with your buddy on a regular basis… I credit our shared discipline with that practice for helping keep me on track when I’m feeling unmotivated, frustrated, or otherwise experiencing a creative struggle.
Develop and articulate a mission statement and a strong creative vision for your books and for your career. Begin by giving some deep thought to why you’re doing the work that you do.
Do What You Love. Love What You Do. Strive to Be True to Yourself.
THE STORY BEHIND THE STORIES
Dawn, you are such an accomplished *and busy* person with so much drive, motivation, and care for everything you pursue. I’d love to know more about what drives you- and your writing!
Can you tell us the story behind the stories? If you’re up for it, I’d love to hear a brief summary, from your words, of what each of your books is about *or as many as you’d care to share.* What inspired it? What does it mean to you? And what do you hope it will give your reader?
Thank you for such kind words, Chelsea.
My most recent book, and a story that is very dear to my heart, Lucy’s Blooms, grew out of memories and emotions that surfaced when I gazed at a little glass bird that sits on my desk, a gift from my beloved Gram, coupled with an experience I had in my own garden.
One day, as I diligently tended to the flowers in my carefully prepared flowerbeds, I observed two additional plants that had independently sprouted in a patch of soil that bordered my front walkway. I didn’t know what these plants were, only that they were beautiful and thriving. Eventually, more experienced gardeners informed me that these plants were actually weeds, and I was advised to pull them.
This vigorous and lively pair of weeds brought me such joy as I passed by them day after day, I couldn’t fathom the idea of discarding them. Instead, I nurtured them. I watered them, I talked to them, and I admired them as they grew and grew…and grew.
As I reflected on this experience, I considered the impact of socially constructed labels, such as beauty and worth, and how these labels impact our everyday actions. I became fascinated by dandelions, in particular, because they are widely considered to be an invasive nuisance that should be controlled/eliminated, and yet, every part of a dandelion (root, leaves, petals, etc.) is edible, they are rich in nutrients, and they are known to have healthful, curative properties. Plus, they are easy to grow, resilient, wildly familiar to (and beloved by) children, and in my view, absolutely beautiful.
-I am in love with this line of thought. And I completely agree.- -Thank you, Chelsea! I think we are kindred spirits!-
And thus was planted, the seeds of Lucy’s Blooms.
My son’s imaginative play inspired Where Does a Pirate Go Potty? One day, back when he was bitsy (he’s now a senior in college), he raced around the house with a pirate patch on his eye and a diaper on his bum, repeatedly asking in a raspy little toddler voice, “Where Does a Pirate Go Potty?” I knew immediately this was the title for a book, and I started drafting a manuscript soon after. I worked on that story off and on for over a decade before getting it right.
The companion book, Where Does a Cowgirl Go Potty?, came from a self-assigned creative writing exercise after receiving a decline from an editor who loved my Pirate story, but whose sales team felt it would only appeal to boys, cutting the potential readership in half.
Although I disagreed with the sales team’s assessment, I eventually brainstormed a list of different characters to try out for the story, one of which was a cowgirl. As soon as that idea came to mind, I found myself transported to a time when my then college-aged daughter was in grade school, and her wardrobe included a bright pink pair of cowgirl boots. I paged through old photos and found the one I was looking for: A photo of my daughter dressed-up for her western-themed grade school carnival.
I now had the kernel of a very clear new character in my mind’s eye. This character was unique and separate from the Pirate character that I couldn’t let go of, and she had her own story to tell.
WHERE DOES A COWGIRL GO POTTY? spilled onto the page with urgency.
My Cowgirl story eventually landed me a two-book contract with a publisher that had a knack for publishing western-themed books and decided to acquire both Cowgirl and Pirate. Yee-Haw and Yarrrr!
My next scheduled book, (Mama’s Home!, Familius, 2026), is a lyrical story about a child’s joy of welcoming Mama and a new sibling home. From eager anticipation and preparations for Mama’s return to sharing meals, playtime activities, and treasured routines, this sweet poem captures the special relationship between mother and child. I wrote the first draft of that story on a scrap of paper in my pocket as I once again watched my son engage in imaginative play, this time at our local children’s museum. It went through many twists and turns and subsequent revisions before finding a publishing home, and I anticipate there will be more changes to come during the forthcoming editorial and illustration processes.
Interior of LUCY’S BLOOMS, illustration by Alice Brereton
I adore every single page of Lucy’s Blooms, but the image above is one of my very favorites. For me it captures the essence of Lucy’s unconditional love for her blooms.
Interior of WHERE DOES A COWGIRL GO POTTY?, illustration by Jacob Souva
Jacob Souva’s art is amazing. It’s really difficult to narrow down my favorites, but this image on the copyright page of Where Does a Cowgirl Go Potty? makes me laugh every time I see it. It’s the perfect set-up for the silliness and humor to come.
Interior of WHERE DOES A PIRATE GO POTTY?, illustration by Jacob Souva
Similarly, I love this image on the title page of Where Does a Pirate Go Potty? It’s a perfect example of the magical collaboration between author and illustrator. I could have never imagined a more humorous crab character!
RESOURCES, EDUCATION & ASL
I know literacy is important to you. Can you share about some of the different organizations you’re a part of and the resources you provide- including your resources for ASL?
As I mentioned a bit earlier, my first published books grew out of my work as an early literacy consultant. I’ve provided consulting services and instructional workshops on a variety of literacy-related topics including infant/toddler sign language, literacy/early literacy enrichment, and creative writing for a wide variety of organizations over the past two decades including: The Oregon Association for the Education of Young Children; Early Head Start; Oregon Child Development Coalition; the Parent/Child Preschool Network, the Oregon and Washington Library Associations, Wordstock (now the Portland Book Festival), Willamette Writers, The Loft, and the Society for Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators/ SCBWI. You can find a more comprehensive list of past clients HERE.
I originally started my blog as a way to easily share class enrichment materials with my clients. Eventually, those enrichment materials expanded to resources to support each of my books. The easiest way to access these materials is via the resources tab on my blog. From there you can jump to materials such as “Start to Finish Story Time," which provides detailed lesson plans that incorporate early childhood language themes and American Sign Language/ASL handshapes for key vocabulary words and the alphabet and “Start to Finish Story Time, Expanded,” which provides curriculum-aligned educators’ guides; themed art projects and activity guides such as readers’ theater scripts and pirate and cowgirl name generators; YouTube playlists that include animated book trailers with original songs (the companion song to Lucy’s Blooms is a work of art in its own right) and fascinating facts such as info about animal poop science; and some things that are simply fun, like links to Pinterest boards related to potty humor, including a link to a toilet flushing sound loop!
I also have several features on my blog to support writers. Some of my most popular features are:
It’s my hope that my blog is a helpful resource to everyone who visits.
-Wow! You have so many great things to offer here! Thanks so much for sharing this with our readers today.-
VISITS & EVENTS
I saw on your website that you have an events and appearances section. What kinds of visits do you offer, who do you offer them to, and how can guests book them? *Virtual/in-person/both* libraries, schools, etc.*
I consider engaging directly with young readers and writers among the supreme joys of being an author. I offer a full gamut of author visits and special appearances for schools, libraries, bookstores, community organizations, etc., and I will virtually visit (and when possible, visit in-person) with students anywhere in the world to talk about writing books, finding ideas, character development, and more! -VERY cool.-
I participate annually in World Read Aloud Day and make every effort to find a way to go where I am invited to share my passion for reading and writing books. I even have free, self-guided author talks and young writers workshops that educators can request from me. The details of all of my offerings are available on the author visit tab of my website: https://www.dawnprochovnic.com/p/school-visits.html
If a guest wanted to hear/see a video recording of your story, where could they go?
Folks can find links to recorded book readings on my website, or they can head straight to my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@dprochovnic
Some highlights include: a recording of me reading Where Does a Cowgirl Go Potty? from my bathroom (!) and a reading of Lucy’s Blooms from my garden. You’ll also find an ASL-interpreted reading of Lucy’s Blooms provided by my friends and colleagues at Baby Fingers, LLC.
What’s your favorite part of an author visit?
I love most everything about author visits, but if I had to narrow it down, it would be the questions that kids ask and the notes they often write after school visits.
-Ha! That’s two things! : )- -Haha. I won't tell if you won't. Besides, who says you can't have two favorites?-
I looked back over some past author visit notes, and one student asked “Do you have any problems?” My first thought was “Where do I begin?!”
I wrote back:
You asked if I have any problems. I’m guessing you are wondering if I have any problems when I sit down to write my stories. Sometimes I get distracted from a particular writing project I should be working on. When I’m having difficulty focusing, sometimes I take a break. Other times, I do a writing exercise to help my creativity start flowing. I make writing goals for myself each week and I share those goals with a writing buddy. That seems to be the best thing that helps me stay on track.
Any last pieces of wisdom, encouragement, or something else you’d like to share with readers today?
This past year, I was honored with a major award in my state, the Walt Morey Young Readers Literacy Legacy Award, presented by Oregon Literary Arts in recognition of significant contributions that have enriched Oregon’s young readers.
To say that I was in shock and disbelief to receive this award is a major understatement. It was hard for me to comprehend how my name could have even been flagged for such a meaningful acknowledgment.
As I worked on my remarks for the awards ceremony, it occurred to me that our body of work, our literary legacy, extends well beyond the books that we write and manage to get published. You can read my full remarks (and see a video of my acceptance speech here: https://www.dawnprochovnic.com/2023/04/the-literary-legacy-part-of-writing-life.html) but I will share some similar thoughts below:
I wholeheartedly believe that each of us has the power to influence the literary landscape in our own communities, in our schools and libraries, and within our families.
Someone reading this blog likely read a book by a local author to a child today. Someone else made a purchase at an indie bookstore. I’ll bet someone volunteered at their local library, someone gifted a book to a classroom teacher, and someone wrote a kind letter that will be read and re-read again and again.
My fifth grade teacher held a reading contest back in 1978 that motivated me to read, and played a role in my eventually becoming an award-winning author.
I challenge each person reading this blog to take one seemingly small action that might benefit a young reader, another children’s book creator, or another professional who gets books into the hands of young readers, such as a teacher, librarian, or bookseller. Imagine the legacy that together we’ll leave.
-This was such a powerful note to end on. Thanks so much for joining us, Dawn.- -Thank you so much for having me, Chelsea. It was a pleasure.- But we’re not done JUST yet- there’s still one more item on the agenda, and that’s… THE GIVEAWAY!
Dawn Babb Prochovnic is offering the following giveaway prizes to TWO winners:
A signed copy of her most recently published book, LUCY’S BLOOMS
OR
A 20-30 minute Virtual School Visit or Ask Me Anything for an individual or small group.
HOW TO ENTER THE GIVEAWAY
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Deadline to enter: June 30th, 202411:59 PM CST
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Dawn Babb Prochovnic is the recipient of the 2023 Walt Morey Young Readers Literary Legacy Award in recognition of significant contributions that have enriched Oregon’s young readers, a contributor to the award-winning anthology Oregon Reads Aloud (Graphic Arts Books, 2016), and the author of 19 picture books. Dawn’s three most recent publications include two humorous titles, Where Does a Cowgirl Go Potty? and Where Does a Pirate Go Potty? (West Margin Press, 2019), and Lucy’s Blooms, a heartfelt, multi-generational story about the enduring nature of love (West Margin Press, 2021). Next up is Mama’s Home!, under contract with Familius for publication in 2026. Dawn continues to incorporate her earlier books, The Nest Where I Like to Rest, an Oregon Book Awards finalist, and 15 other picture books in the Story Time with Signs & Rhymes series (Abdo, 2009-2012) into her early literacy consulting work and school/library author visits and workshops.
It’s the first day of May- and the first Wednesday of the month, which means I’m welcoming another guest onto the blog. Put your hands together for children’s book author and educator Christina Dankert.
Before I jump into our interview, though- if this is your first time visiting my blog or the feature interview segments, welcome! I’m glad you’re here, and I hope you’ll visit again. To give you an idea of what’s in store, here’s a brief overview of what feature interviews are all about and why they’re so valuable.
WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS AND WHY ARE THEY SO GREAT?
In a nutshell, here’s what a “feature interview” is. Every month, I sit down with literary professionals –authors,illustrators,editors, andagents– at all stages of their careers- from newly debuting to well-established, seasoned best sellers- and we discuss all things kidlit publishing. (Many of my guests are also former or current educators andlibrarians!)
These interviews are a great resource for kidlit writers and illustrators no matter where they are in their journey. Not only do they offer current information on market trends, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publishing from a diverse collection of creators and perspectives.
Here’s a list of just a few of the helpful things we discuss:
Where to find both FREE and PAID for writing memberships, craft workshops, contests, and other resources
How to query agents andeditors and what they’re looking for
Where to find kidlit community and support from other writers or illustrators
What to do after you sign with your first agent – and/or make your first book deal
How to promote your books as a debuting author or illustrator
Behind the scenes of hosting author events- library/school visits
How to get your books into bookstores & schools
And, of course- during each feature interview segment- we share new publishing deals & host giveaway prizes for our readers!!! ** Giveaway PRIZES and instructions on HOW to enter are listed at the bottom of each interview**
Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!
INTRODUCTION: HOW IT ALL STARTED… AND CLASSROOMS
Christina, thank you so much for joining us today. We’re thrilled to have you here. The first thing I love asking my guests is where they began. Can you tell us when and how your journey to kidlit started? What were the motivating factors that led you to publishing? And where did your entry into the world first take root?
Thank you for having me! I find your author interviews very helpful and motivating, and I am honored to share part of my story. My kidlit author journey started as a Covid silver lining. I stepped away from my teaching position for a year, focused on my family, and had the opportunity to make writing a priority. Instead of writing lesson plans, prepping, and grading, I used that time to write and attend virtual conferences and writing sessions.
Have you always been a literature lover and fan of writing?
I loved reading as a child. I grew up with parents who valued reading. My mom took my sister and me to the public library frequently. I had teachers in high school who caused me to greatly dislike reading. I hated being told what I had to read and often found mandatory text boring or confusing. I went to college and had a roommate who was an English major. She traveled with a floor-to-ceiling bookshelf in each of her apartments. She would highlight books she thought I’d be interested in and I began to read for pleasure. When I had my own children, I read to them but didn’t have the time or energy for my own reading. I missed it. I made a goal to read four pages a night. FOUR PAGES! A habit was formed, and now I enjoy reading and listening to books through audiobooks as much as possible.
I know you’re a second-grade teacher. Has your teaching experience influenced your desire to publish books?
Absolutely! As a teacher, I take my read-alouds very seriously. As a mom of two and a teacher, I read a lot of picture books. There are so many beautiful and meaningful books. Since I only have 180 school days, I try to pick the best of the best.
Books that will: * help teach academic content *that will allow for discussions and celebrations of cultures and diversity *books that help explore feelings/emotions and provide strategies *and books that simply make us laugh and are meant to entertain us while building a love for reading
As a mom and teacher, I know that kindness is very important. I want my children and students to be kind humans to each other and to themselves. Kindness ended up being the focus of my first picture book.
What do your students think about the fact that their teacher is also an author? Do they think, “Wow, my teacher is SO cool! She writes books!” (I know I would have thought it was the coolest thing ever.)
They do think it is exciting! But the best part is, they are inspired to write their own stories! I have students create their own stories, outside of pieces we are working on, that they illustrated or that they work together with a friend at recess or at home. Each week, students share their stories with the class, and our basket of published books keeps growing.
I love it when students complain about how hard writing is. It allows me to pause and tell them how many times I had to reread The Kindness Machine and how many times it was edited. This allows them to see that it is okay if it’s hard, but perseverance is key.
That must be an AMAZING feeling, to see your students inspired to create and try- try again.Speaking of inspired to create... Do you ever do any creative writing assignments with your second graders?
This year, we are creating a writing portfolio. Each quarter, students add a few pieces of writing or typed stories. They range from narrative, opinion, and informational writing. I write a positive note to each student in their portfolio, and then they take it home to share with their families. It is returned with a positive note from home, and then we repeat the following quarter. I have seen more enthusiasm from reluctant writers because they know they get to share it at home. Boosting confidence is a huge piece of writing in 2nd grade.
“As a mom and teacher, I know that kindness is very important. I want my children and students to be kind humans to each other and to themselves.“
“I love when students complain about how hard writing is. It allows me to pause and tell them how many times I had to reread The Kindness Machine and how many times it was edited. This allows them to see that it is okay if it’s hard, but perseverance is key.“
PUBLISHING ROUTES & SUBMISSIONS
You published your debut picture book, The Kindness Machine, in 2022. Congratulations! Can you tell us about what publishing route you took? Did you go traditional or independent? Did you query agents for representation, or did you send submissions directly to the publisher? And why?
Thank you! I went with a hybrid publisher, Purple Butterfly Press, which had other published books featuring character strengths. Working collaboratively with a team was very beneficial since this was my first time publishing. The team was very patient and answered all of my questions. An added bonus was that this publisher allowed for not only manuscript submissions but illustrator samples as well. We will circle back to why that was so exciting in a minute. In the future, I would love to be traditionally published, and I am working on agent research and my query letter.
Was it an immediate YES on the first try? Explain.
I submitted to a few publishers and heard nothing. When I submitted it to Purple Butterfly Press, I received an email about a month later stating that they were interested in my manuscript.
Can you share some of the pros/cons of each route and what it has to offer?
There are pros and cons to each publishing route, and ultimately, you have to do what is best for you. I’d love to be published traditionally and independently to see which route I prefer. A pro for traditionally published is often a wider distribution to help get your book in the hands of readers. A pro for being independently published is that it is often a faster timeline.
Okay, so you have your manuscript(s), and you’re ready to launch out in the world. What kind of timeframe did it take to get your first book deal- from concept to publication?
Be sure to pack an extra suitcase of patience for this journey. We live in a fast-paced world where we are so used to instant gratification.
My timeline was: Fall 2020 - wrote manuscript, peer edits/feedback. March 2021 - submitted manuscript to Purple Butterfly Press. May 2021 - signed contract March 2022 - published
Are you currently represented by an agent/agency? If so, who? Not at this point. Through the 12x12 writing community, I have learned a lot about agents and representation. I hope to one day have an agent that will help bring more books into the world.
“There are pros and cons to each publishing route, and ultimately, you have to do what is best for you. A pro for traditionally published is often a wider distribution to help get your book in the hands of readers. A pro for being independently published is that it is often a faster timeline.“
Do you have anything out on submission right now or any future projects currently in the works?
My goal for 2024 is to write multiple manuscripts and revise them. All of my manuscripts feature a positive character trait: empathy, perseverance, quality time, etc. I am proud of the writing that has happened so far this year and hope to send work out on submission in 2025.
I recently received an honorable mention for my 50 Precious Word International Writing Contest submission. That was a huge boost for my confidence and is motivating me to turn those 50 words into a full manuscript.
That is such an exciting accomplishment, Christina- congratulations!! That confidence boost is well deserved and should be celebrated.
Speaking of celebrating… I also participated in this year’s 50 Precious Words Contest and made it to the honorable mentions- so I’m celebrating with you! If any of our readers would like to see me or Christina’s 2024 50 Precious Word entries, you can view them below!
AUTHOR VISITS
I know you love doing author events. Would you tell us about some of the events you’ve done? How did you get in the doors? Did you reach out to them (schools/libraries/bookstores/etc) or did they reach out to you? Are your visits paid, do you offer them voluntarily, or is it a mixture of both?
I absolutely LOVE doing author visits! To read something that you have poured your heart and soul into, to your target audience is an incredible feeling. To see children get excited when you hope they do, ask amazing questions, and often tell you that they are going to be an author is very rewarding. When the book launched, I had the opportunity to read the book to each grade level at my very supportive school. I presented the book six times as I worked my way from kindergarten to fifth. I was able to try out a few different things and cater the presentations to the different age groups.
From there, I have reached out to a few schools and been approached by local schools. At this point, the presentation is not paid but schools have an opportunity to purchase books, which my husband and I both sign. (Keep reading to find out why my husband is signing the books too!) If this was my full-time career, I would charge for the presentation, would be more willing to travel further from home and would spend a lot of time approaching school districts. Maybe someday, but right now, I look at author visits as something that brings me immense joy and is a special treat for my author heart.
“I absolutely LOVE doing author visits! To read something that you have poured your heart and soul into, to your target audience is an incredible feeling. To see children get excited when you hope they do, ask amazing questions, and often tell you that they are going to be an author is very rewarding.“
About how long do you typically stay for a visit? Can you give us a brief idea of what your format looks like? Read aloud? Q&A? Class craft or project? Etc.
A typical author visit kicks off with the importance of reading and sharing stories. I then have children look at the cover of The Kindness Machine to make a guess what it looks like under the sheet. I read the story and pause throughout to ask questions. There are little “magic questions” in the bottom right hand corner in the heart of the book that are perfect to engage listeners. I end with a Q&A and have had older students complete a kindness brainstorming activity. I also email teachers a few printables that go with the story for them to use at their convenience. Typically, the presentations are 25-40 minutes long.
What’s your favorite part of the author visit?
My favorite part of the author visit is when I read the last page of the book. I never show the last page on the large screen until after I read the last page has only one sentence. It reads, “Now let me ask you again, who has a superpower?” Student’s hands ALWAYS shoot up when they realize that kindness is the superpower they already have.
Do you ever offer (or bring) anything special to your classroom/library/bookstore, like a signed copy of your book or something else?
I like to donate a hard copy of the book to the school’s library.
What advice would you share with a debuting author or illustrator looking to get their foot in the door of a bookstore, library, or school for an author event? Any tips on how to go about this?
Reach out to school librarians, reading specialists, or parent clubs to see if an author visit is something their school would be interested in. Let them know what your book is about and what the presentation looks like so they can see if it would be a good fit.
“My favorite part of the author visit is when I read the last page of the book. Student’s hands ALWAYS shoot up when they realize that kindness is the superpower they already have.“
“Reach out to school librarians, reading specialists, or parent clubs to see if an author visit is something their school would be interested in. Let them know what your book is about and what the presentation looks like so they can see if it would be a good fit.”
OVERCOMING HURDLES & FINDING COMMUNITY
What were some of the hurdles you faced early on and maybe even later during the publishing process? And how were you able to overcome them? Explain.
Waiting is very challenging, but it is part of the process. I received excellent writing advice from a writer friend. She suggested that once you submit something and you are waiting, start working on something else. It might be another manuscript, but it might also be a blog post, application for author event, magazine article, etc. Keep working on your craft so that you continue to get better and keep your mind busy during the waiting portion on this journey.
Speaking of hurdles… one thing I’ve found to be true is the value of building connections among the writing community. They make the hardships so much more bearable and at times, they can make the difference in sticking it out until the end. Can you tell us about your experience in forging friendships among the writing community?
The kidlit community is truly incredible. Finding other authors is key. Oftentimes your family and friends will be incredible cheerleaders for you. However, you need other writers to understand your frustrations, help with accountability and celebrate even the littlest of wins. It was through a virtual writing conference in 2021 that I connected with incredible writers. We get together a few times a month via Zoom to ask questions, share work and receive feedback and then spend time writing.
Where did you go to find your writing community and what suggestions do you have for other writers or illustrators looking to branch out in this area?
As I mentioned, I was fortunate enough to click with writers during a virtual conference. However, reach out to your library, check to see if there are local writing groups or feel free to start your own with like minded people.
Are there any writing organizations, groups, podcasts, or websites that you recommend checking out?
I find the 12x12 Writing Challenge to be a very supportive community, it is where you and I first crossed paths. I appreciate the thoughtful monthly webinars and active Facebook group to ask questions and support one another.
“The kidlit community is truly incredible. Finding other authors is key. Oftentimes your family and friends will be incredible cheerleaders for you. However, you need other writers to understand your frustrations, help with accountability and celebrate even the littlest of wins.“
“I find the 12×12 Writing Challenge to be a very supportive community, it is where you and I first crossed paths. I appreciate the thoughtful monthly webinars and active Facebook group to ask questions and support one another.“
BOOKISH THINGS
Moving on to bookish things! Can you tell us about the illustrations in your story, The Kindness Machine? Did you have any say or contribution in the artwork, or was it a complete surprise? Were they what you imagined they’d be? Explain.
Ah ha! I am so excited to share that my husband, Chad, was the illustrator for The Kindness Machine! Before we were married, I told him we should merge our two professions of teacher and artist into a picture book. 14 years later and here we are! It was honestly a joy to collaborate with Chad. He knows me so well and was able to bring the story to life. Working with a hybrid publisher, we had the opportunity to pitch both the manuscript and illustration samples and they both were accepted. We spent many nights on the couch or at the dinner table after the kids went to bed, talking about illustrations as he sketched on his i-Pad. He was able to add in extra details such as the teacher looking like my best friend, adding a Free Little Library to the sketches and items from my classroom, such as a fish tank. Chad exceeded my expectations and it is something we are both very proud to have collaborated on.
Let’s talk about “the moment.” “The moment” being… the first time you saw and held your book in your hands. What were your feelings and thoughts?
It really is a big deal! I remember holding the sample copy and just smiling. Our own children saw it and my son said, “Wait! It’s out!?” It was very special reading the actual book to them that night at bedtime.
The Kindness Machine has such a wonderful message. Can you tell us about the story?
The Kindness Machine takes place in a second grade classroom with a teacher, Mr. Wilson, who is known for creating fun gadgets and gizmos. One day he brings a kindness machine to school and students have the opportunity to push different buttons to learn ways to be kind not only to others but also to themselves. In the end, students realize that they each have their own kindness machine inside them to help spread kindness wherever they go.
In your own words, can you share your inspiration for writing this book and how you hope it will leave your readers feeling?
As a mom and a teacher, we truly want all of our children and students to be kind. My hope is that the readers and listeners are reminded that kindness is not complicated. We can spread kindness through simple actions. The idea of self-love and kindness to ourselves is something that even adults struggle with. My goal is that if we start sharing this idea of loving ourselves early, we can help lay a solid foundation for self-love. I also secretly hope that the adults reading the books get a gentle reminder to not be so hard on themselves.
What has the reaction/response been from readers? Have you had any special moments that you’d like to share?
The response has been great! I love when former students tell me they read the book AGAIN before bedtime or that a teacher checked it out from the library for their class. A high school senior, who I did not know, used The Kindness Machine for a huge project. He had to create a display, read the book to a class, and create an activity to go with the book. One school counselor read the book to 17 classes and created an entire school wall with pieces from the story that they worked on together. It was so amazing to really feel the kindness ripple that has happened from publishing.
Any advice for authors and/or illustrators who are looking into breaking into the kidlit market?
Read! Read everything you can in your kidlit theme that is already out and figure out what is missing that you can add. I read over 50 books about kindness, but only one included kindness to ourselves, which is why I included that in my book. Connect with other writers and carve out time to write.
Okay, we’ve done the nitty-gritty portion. Now, let’s move on to a few fun favorites.
Favorite color? Red
Favorite animal? Panda
Favorite vacation destination? The beach!
Favorite dessert/snack? Dark chocolate, donuts
Favorite book(s)? Too many to list!
“As a mom and a teacher, we truly want all of our children and students to be kind. My hope is that the readers and listeners are reminded that kindness is not complicated. We can spread kindness through simple actions.“
“The idea of self-love and kindness to ourselves is something that even adults struggle with. My goal is that if we start sharing this idea of loving ourselves early, we can help lay a solid foundation for self-love. I also hope that the adults reading the books get a gentle reminder to not be so hard on themselves.“
Any last pieces of advice or words of wisdom that you’d like to share with our readers today?
Be patient. Trust yourself. Remember that you have a story to tell and that your words matter. Write on.
Thank you, Christina, for spending time with us today. We appreciate you and everything you’ve done to share your kindness with the world.
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Christina Dankert is a children’s book author, second-grade teacher, and literacy enthusiast living in Ohio. As an educator, she believes books are a beautiful way to continue to learn and grow. She believes all children should be able to find themselves in picture books. It is through children’s literature and reading to the children in our lives that we will change the world.
