MAY 1ST, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR AND EDUCATOR CHRISTINA DANKERT, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

It’s the first day of May- and the first Wednesday of the month, which means I’m welcoming another guest onto the blog. Put your hands together for children’s book author and educator Christina Dankert.

Before I jump into our interview, though- if this is your first time visiting my blog or the feature interview segments, welcome! I’m glad you’re here, and I hope you’ll visit again. To give you an idea of what’s in store, here’s a brief overview of what feature interviews are all about and why they’re so valuable.

WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS AND WHY ARE THEY SO GREAT?

In a nutshell, here’s what a “feature interview” is. Every month, I sit down with literary professionals –authors, illustrators, editors, and agents– at all stages of their careers- from newly debuting to well-established, seasoned best sellers- and we discuss all things kidlit publishing. (Many of my guests are also former or current educators and librarians!)

These interviews are a great resource for kidlit writers and illustrators no matter where they are in their journey. Not only do they offer current information on market trends, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publishing from a diverse collection of creators and perspectives.

Here’s a list of just a few of the helpful things we discuss:

  • Where to find both FREE and PAID for writing memberships, craft workshops, contests, and other resources
  • How to query agents and editors and what they’re looking for
  • Where to find kidlit community and support from other writers or illustrators
  • Diversity, empathy, and kindness in kidlit and why it matters
  • How to improve your skills and set goals
  • Writing across genres
  • How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
  • Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
  • Pros and cons of small publishers, hybrid (or indie) publishing, and being agented vs. unagented
  • What to do after you sign with your first agent – and/or make your first book deal
  • How to promote your books as a debuting author or illustrator
  • Behind the scenes of hosting author events- library/school visits
  • How to get your books into bookstores & schools
  • And, of course- during each feature interview segment- we share new publishing deals & host giveaway prizes for our readers!!! ** Giveaway PRIZES and instructions on HOW to enter are listed at the bottom of each interview**

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

INTRODUCTION: HOW IT ALL STARTED… AND CLASSROOMS

Christina, thank you so much for joining us today. We’re thrilled to have you here. The first thing I love asking my guests is where they began. Can you tell us when and how your journey to kidlit started? What were the motivating factors that led you to publishing? And where did your entry into the world first take root?

Thank you for having me! I find your author interviews very helpful and motivating, and I am honored to share part of my story. My kidlit author journey started as a Covid silver lining. I stepped away from my teaching position for a year, focused on my family, and had the opportunity to make writing a priority. Instead of writing lesson plans, prepping, and grading, I used that time to write and attend virtual conferences and writing sessions.

Have you always been a literature lover and fan of writing?

I loved reading as a child. I grew up with parents who valued reading. My mom took my sister and me to the public library frequently. I had teachers in high school who caused me to greatly dislike reading. I hated being told what I had to read and often found mandatory text boring or confusing. I went to college and had a roommate who was an English major. She traveled with a floor-to-ceiling bookshelf in each of her apartments. She would highlight books she thought I’d be interested in and I began to read for pleasure. When I had my own children, I read to them but didn’t have the time or energy for my own reading. I missed it. I made a goal to read four pages a night. FOUR PAGES! A habit was formed, and now I enjoy reading and listening to books through audiobooks as much as possible.

I know you’re a second-grade teacher. Has your teaching experience influenced your desire to publish books?

Absolutely! As a teacher, I take my read-alouds very seriously. As a mom of two and a teacher, I read a lot of picture books. There are so many beautiful and meaningful books. Since I only have 180 school days, I try to pick the best of the best.

Books that will:
* help teach academic content
*that will allow for discussions and celebrations of cultures and diversity
*books that help explore feelings/emotions and provide strategies
*and books that simply make us laugh and are meant to entertain us while building a love for reading

As a mom and teacher, I know that kindness is very important. I want my children and students to be kind humans to each other and to themselves. Kindness ended up being the focus of my first picture book.

What do your students think about the fact that their teacher is also an author? Do they think, “Wow, my teacher is SO cool! She writes books!” (I know I would have thought it was the coolest thing ever.)

They do think it is exciting! But the best part is, they are inspired to write their own stories! I have students create their own stories, outside of pieces we are working on, that they illustrated or that they work together with a friend at recess or at home. Each week, students share their stories with the class, and our basket of published books keeps growing.

I love it when students complain about how hard writing is. It allows me to pause and tell them how many times I had to reread The Kindness Machine and how many times it was edited. This allows them to see that it is okay if it’s hard, but perseverance is key.

That must be an AMAZING feeling, to see your students inspired to create and try- try again. Speaking of inspired to create... Do you ever do any creative writing assignments with your second graders?

This year, we are creating a writing portfolio. Each quarter, students add a few pieces of writing or typed stories. They range from narrative, opinion, and informational writing. I write a positive note to each student in their portfolio, and then they take it home to share with their families. It is returned with a positive note from home, and then we repeat the following quarter. I have seen more enthusiasm from reluctant writers because they know they get to share it at home. Boosting confidence is a huge piece of writing in 2nd grade.

As a mom and teacher, I know that kindness is very important. I want my children and students to be kind humans to each other and to themselves.

I love when students complain about how hard writing is. It allows me to pause and tell them how many times I had to reread The Kindness Machine and how many times it was edited. This allows them to see that it is okay if it’s hard, but perseverance is key.

PUBLISHING ROUTES & SUBMISSIONS

You published your debut picture book, The Kindness Machine, in 2022. Congratulations! Can you tell us about what publishing route you took? Did you go traditional or independent? Did you query agents for representation, or did you send submissions directly to the publisher? And why?

Thank you! I went with a hybrid publisher, Purple Butterfly Press, which had other published books featuring character strengths. Working collaboratively with a team was very beneficial since this was my first time publishing. The team was very patient and answered all of my questions. An added bonus was that this publisher allowed for not only manuscript submissions but illustrator samples as well. We will circle back to why that was so exciting in a minute. In the future, I would love to be traditionally published, and I am working on agent research and my query letter.

Was it an immediate YES on the first try? Explain.

I submitted to a few publishers and heard nothing. When I submitted it to Purple Butterfly Press, I received an email about a month later stating that they were interested in my manuscript.

Can you share some of the pros/cons of each route and what it has to offer?

There are pros and cons to each publishing route, and ultimately, you have to do what is best for you. I’d love to be published traditionally and independently to see which route I prefer. A pro for traditionally published is often a wider distribution to help get your book in the hands of readers. A pro for being independently published is that it is often a faster timeline.

Okay, so you have your manuscript(s), and you’re ready to launch out in the world. What kind of timeframe did it take to get your first book deal- from concept to publication?

Be sure to pack an extra suitcase of patience for this journey. We live in a fast-paced world where we are so used to instant gratification.

My timeline was:
Fall 2020 - wrote manuscript, peer edits/feedback.
March 2021 - submitted manuscript to Purple Butterfly Press.
May 2021 - signed contract
March 2022 - published

Are you currently represented by an agent/agency? If so, who?
Not at this point. Through the 12x12 writing community, I have learned a lot about agents and representation. I hope to one day have an agent that will help bring more books into the world.

There are pros and cons to each publishing route, and ultimately, you have to do what is best for you. A pro for traditionally published is often a wider distribution to help get your book in the hands of readers. A pro for being independently published is that it is often a faster timeline.

Do you have anything out on submission right now or any future projects currently in the works?

My goal for 2024 is to write multiple manuscripts and revise them. All of my manuscripts feature a positive character trait: empathy, perseverance, quality time, etc. I am proud of the writing that has happened so far this year and hope to send work out on submission in 2025.

I recently received an honorable mention for my 50 Precious Word International Writing Contest submission. That was a huge boost for my confidence and is motivating me to turn those 50 words into a full manuscript.

That is such an exciting accomplishment, Christina- congratulations!! That confidence boost is well deserved and should be celebrated.

Speaking of celebrating… I also participated in this year’s 50 Precious Words Contest and made it to the honorable mentions- so I’m celebrating with you! If any of our readers would like to see me or Christina’s 2024 50 Precious Word entries, you can view them below!

AUTHOR VISITS

I know you love doing author events. Would you tell us about some of the events you’ve done? How did you get in the doors? Did you reach out to them  (schools/libraries/bookstores/etc) or did they reach out to you? Are your visits paid, do you offer them voluntarily, or is it a mixture of both? 

I absolutely LOVE doing author visits! To read something that you have poured your heart and soul into, to your target audience is an incredible feeling. To see children get excited when you hope they do, ask amazing questions, and often tell you that they are going to be an author is very rewarding. When the book launched, I had the opportunity to read the book to each grade level at my very supportive school. I presented the book six times as I worked my way from kindergarten to fifth. I was able to try out a few different things and cater the presentations to the different age groups.

From there, I have reached out to a few schools and been approached by local schools. At this point, the presentation is not paid but schools have an opportunity to purchase books, which my husband and I both sign. (Keep reading to find out why my husband is signing the books too!) If this was my full-time career, I would charge for the presentation, would be more willing to travel further from home and would spend a lot of time approaching school districts. Maybe someday, but right now, I look at author visits as something that brings me immense joy and is a special treat for my author heart.


I absolutely LOVE doing author visits! To read something that you have poured your heart and soul into, to your target audience is an incredible feeling. To see children get excited when you hope they do, ask amazing questions, and often tell you that they are going to be an author is very rewarding.

About how long do you typically stay for a visit? Can you give us a brief idea of what your format looks like? Read aloud? Q&A? Class craft or project? Etc.

A typical author visit kicks off with the importance of reading and sharing stories. I then have children look at the cover of The Kindness Machine to make a guess what it looks like under the sheet. I read the story and pause throughout to ask questions. There are little “magic questions” in the bottom right hand corner in the heart of the book that are perfect to engage listeners. I end with a Q&A and have had older students complete a kindness brainstorming activity. I also email teachers a few printables that go with the story for them to use at their convenience. Typically, the presentations are 25-40 minutes long.

What’s your favorite part of the author visit?

My favorite part of the author visit is when I read the last page of the book. I never show the last page on the large screen until after I read the last page has only one sentence. It reads, “Now let me ask you again, who has a superpower?” Student’s hands ALWAYS shoot up when they realize that kindness is the superpower they already have.

Do you ever offer (or bring) anything special to your classroom/library/bookstore, like a signed copy of your book or something else?

I like to donate a hard copy of the book to the school’s library.

What advice would you share with a debuting author or illustrator looking to get their foot in the door of a bookstore, library, or school for an author event? Any tips on how to go about this?

Reach out to school librarians, reading specialists, or parent clubs to see if an author visit is something their school would be interested in. Let them know what your book is about and what the presentation looks like so they can see if it would be a good fit.

My favorite part of the author visit is when I read the last page of the book. Student’s hands ALWAYS shoot up when they realize that kindness is the superpower they already have.

Reach out to school librarians, reading specialists, or parent clubs to see if an author visit is something their school would be interested in. Let them know what your book is about and what the presentation looks like so they can see if it would be a good fit.”

OVERCOMING HURDLES & FINDING COMMUNITY

What were some of the hurdles you faced early on and maybe even later during the publishing process? And how were you able to overcome them? Explain.

Waiting is very challenging, but it is part of the process. I received excellent writing advice from a writer friend. She suggested that once you submit something and you are waiting, start working on something else. It might be another manuscript, but it might also be a blog post, application for author event, magazine article, etc. Keep working on your craft so that you continue to get better and keep your mind busy during the waiting portion on this journey.

Speaking of hurdles… one thing I’ve found to be true is the value of building connections among the writing community. They make the hardships so much more bearable and at times, they can make the difference in sticking it out until the end. Can you tell us about your experience in forging friendships among the writing community?

The kidlit community is truly incredible. Finding other authors is key. Oftentimes your family and friends will be incredible cheerleaders for you. However, you need other writers to understand your frustrations, help with accountability and celebrate even the littlest of wins. It was through a virtual writing conference in 2021 that I connected with incredible writers. We get together a few times a month via Zoom to ask questions, share work and receive feedback and then spend time writing.

Where did you go to find your writing community and what suggestions do you have for other writers or illustrators looking to branch out in this area?

As I mentioned, I was fortunate enough to click with writers during a virtual conference. However, reach out to your library, check to see if there are local writing groups or feel free to start your own with like minded people.

Are there any writing organizations, groups, podcasts, or websites that you recommend checking out?

I find the 12x12 Writing Challenge to be a very supportive community, it is where you and I first crossed paths. I appreciate the thoughtful monthly webinars and active Facebook group to ask questions and support one another.

The kidlit community is truly incredible. Finding other authors is key. Oftentimes your family and friends will be incredible cheerleaders for you. However, you need other writers to understand your frustrations, help with accountability and celebrate even the littlest of wins.

I find the 12×12 Writing Challenge to be a very supportive community, it is where you and I first crossed paths. I appreciate the thoughtful monthly webinars and active Facebook group to ask questions and support one another.

BOOKISH THINGS

Moving on to bookish things! Can you tell us about the illustrations in your story, The Kindness Machine? Did you have any say or contribution in the artwork, or was it a complete surprise? Were they what you imagined they’d be? Explain.

Ah ha! I am so excited to share that my husband, Chad, was the illustrator for The Kindness Machine! Before we were married, I told him we should merge our two professions of teacher and artist into a picture book. 14 years later and here we are! It was honestly a joy to collaborate with Chad. He knows me so well and was able to bring the story to life. Working with a hybrid publisher, we had the opportunity to pitch both the manuscript and illustration samples and they both were accepted. We spent many nights on the couch or at the dinner table after the kids went to bed, talking about illustrations as he sketched on his i-Pad. He was able to add in extra details such as the teacher looking like my best friend, adding a Free Little Library to the sketches and items from my classroom, such as a fish tank. Chad exceeded my expectations and it is something we are both very proud to have collaborated on.
Let’s talk about “the moment.” “The moment” being… the first time you saw and held your book in your hands. What were your feelings and thoughts?

It really is a big deal! I remember holding the sample copy and just smiling. Our own children saw it and my son said, “Wait! It’s out!?” It was very special reading the actual book to them that night at bedtime.

The Kindness Machine has such a wonderful message. Can you tell us about the story?

The Kindness Machine takes place in a second grade classroom with a teacher, Mr. Wilson, who is known for creating fun gadgets and gizmos. One day he brings a kindness machine to school and students have the opportunity to push different buttons to learn ways to be kind not only to others but also to themselves. In the end, students realize that they each have their own kindness machine inside them to help spread kindness wherever they go.
In your own words, can you share your inspiration for writing this book and how you hope it will leave your readers feeling?

As a mom and a teacher, we truly want all of our children and students to be kind. My hope is that the readers and listeners are reminded that kindness is not complicated. We can spread kindness through simple actions. The idea of self-love and kindness to ourselves is something that even adults struggle with. My goal is that if we start sharing this idea of loving ourselves early, we can help lay a solid foundation for self-love. I also secretly hope that the adults reading the books get a gentle reminder to not be so hard on themselves.

What has the reaction/response been from readers? Have you had any special moments that you’d like to share?

The response has been great! I love when former students tell me they read the book AGAIN before bedtime or that a teacher checked it out from the library for their class. A high school senior, who I did not know, used The Kindness Machine for a huge project. He had to create a display, read the book to a class, and create an activity to go with the book. One school counselor read the book to 17 classes and created an entire school wall with pieces from the story that they worked on together. It was so amazing to really feel the kindness ripple that has happened from publishing.

Any advice for authors and/or illustrators who are looking into breaking into the kidlit market?

Read! Read everything you can in your kidlit theme that is already out and figure out what is missing that you can add. I read over 50 books about kindness, but only one included kindness to ourselves, which is why I included that in my book. Connect with other writers and carve out time to write.

Okay, we’ve done the nitty-gritty portion. Now, let’s move on to a few fun favorites.

Favorite color?
Red

Favorite animal?
Panda

Favorite vacation destination?
The beach!

Favorite dessert/snack?
Dark chocolate, donuts

Favorite book(s)?
Too many to list!

As a mom and a teacher, we truly want all of our children and students to be kind. My hope is that the readers and listeners are reminded that kindness is not complicated. We can spread kindness through simple actions.

The idea of self-love and kindness to ourselves is something that even adults struggle with. My goal is that if we start sharing this idea of loving ourselves early, we can help lay a solid foundation for self-love. I also hope that the adults reading the books get a gentle reminder to not be so hard on themselves.

Any last pieces of advice or words of wisdom that you’d like to share with our readers today?

Be patient. Trust yourself. Remember that you have a story to tell and that your words matter. Write on.

Thank you, Christina, for spending time with us today. We appreciate you and everything you’ve done to share your kindness with the world.

But don’t hurry off just yet…
We still have ONE final item on our agenda. And that’s… THE GIVEAWAY!

Christina Dankert is offering the following giveaway prize: A signed copy of The Kindness Machine.

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Deadline to enter: May 31st, 2024, 11:59 PM CST

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Christina Dankert is a children’s book author, second-grade teacher, and literacy enthusiast living in Ohio. As an educator, she believes books are a beautiful way to continue to learn and grow. She believes all children should be able to find themselves in picture books. It is through children’s literature and reading to the children in our lives that we will change the world.

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APRIL 3RD, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR JENNIFER RAUDENBUSH, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

It’s officially April! Summer is just around the corner. Which means the library is buzzing with activity… and so is the kidlit world. Today, it’s my pleasure to introduce you to our first Feature Interview guest of the month, Jennifer Raudenbush. Jennifer’s debut picture book, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND, was launched in March of 2023. If you don’t already have a copy, be sure to enter the giveaway at the bottom of the interview!

Before I jump into our interview, though- if this is your first time visiting my blog or the feature interview segments, welcome! I’m glad you’re here, and I hope you’ll visit again. To give you an idea of what’s in store, here’s a brief overview of what feature interviews are all about and why they’re so valuable.

WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS AND WHY ARE THEY SO GREAT?

In a nutshell, here’s what a “feature interview” is. Every month, I sit down with literary professionals –authors, illustrators, editors, and agents– at all stages of their careers- from newly debuting to well-established, seasoned best sellers- and we discuss all things kidlit publishing. (Many of my guests are also former or current educators and librarians!)

These interviews are a great resource for kidlit writers and illustrators no matter where they are in their journey. Not only do they offer current information on market trends, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publishing from a diverse collection of creators and perspectives.

Here’s a list of just a few of the helpful things we discuss:

  • Where to find both FREE and PAID for writing memberships, craft workshops, contests, and other resources
  • How to query agents and editors and what they’re looking for
  • Where to find kidlit community and support from other writers or illustrators
  • Diversity, empathy, and kindness in kidlit and why it matters
  • How to improve your skills and set goals
  • Writing across genres
  • How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
  • Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
  • Pros and cons of small publishers, hybrid (or indie) publishing, and being agented vs. unagented
  • What to do after you sign with your first agent – and/or make your first book deal
  • How to promote your books as a debuting author or illustrator
  • Behind the scenes of hosting author events- library/school visits
  • How to get your books into bookstores & schools
  • And of course- during each feature interview segment- we share new publishing deals & host giveaway prizes for our readers!!! ** Giveaway PRIZES and instructions on HOW to enter are listed at the bottom of each interview**

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

WHERE YOU’RE AT AND WHERE YOU’VE BEEN…

Jennifer, it’s such a treat to have on Chelsea’s World of Books today. Thank you for joining us. One of the coolest parts of looking over my applicants last year in preparation for the 2024 lineup was seeing geographically where all of my entries were coming from. So, let’s start with that. Where are you currently living- and if it’s different from where you’re originally from, where was that?

Hi, Chelsea. Thanks so much for having me today! I was born, raised, and still live in beautiful eastern Pennsylvania. I love nature, and this area offers amazing views and hikes.

How long have you been writing? Have you been writing since you were a kid, or did your love for writing spark later in life?

I was always a big reader and learned to read before kindergarten. When I was a kid, I created a lot of cards and some stories, but mainly I became interested in writing in middle school and high school. I was a co-editor of both my high school newspaper and yearbook. I later majored in English Literature at Sweet Briar College in Virginia. While in college, I made my first picture book dummy, even though I truly had no idea how to write a picture book. It was the seed of my writing dream.

When did you first know you wanted to pursue publishing as a career? How old were you?

A well-meaning family member talked me out of becoming a writer (due to the income), so I became a speech-language pathologist specializing in pediatrics at a local hospital. But, like I said, I was always interested in reading and writing.

Was there anyone/anything influential that impacted your choice to pursue publication… or maybe spurred your love of literacy/writing?

I had two wonderful English teachers in high school, Mrs. Karpulk and Miss Beatty, who cemented that love of literacy deep in my bones. Both encouraged my writing, and I owe a debt of gratitude to them for pointing out that writing was a great strength of mine.

Are you the only writer in your family/friend group- or are there more writers in your midst?

I had been the only writer in my family. However, two years ago, my talented artist sister, Amy Kristen Moore, began working toward becoming an author-illustrator. Due to critique groups, I now have many writer friends! And honestly, I spend so much time with them, they begin to feel like family.

When – and how- did your path to publication truly begin?

In a 2014 seminary class, we did an exercise in which we had to write our own obituaries. It wasn’t as morbid as it sounds! I had to fill in the blank, “The thing I most regret never having accomplished is ___.” Right away, I knew the answer was not having published a children’s book.

I researched writing children’s books and found SCBWI. I joined an online eastern PA SCBWI critique group in the fall of 2015 and began writing (not great) picture book manuscripts. The group fizzled out, but one of the members, Becky Scharnhorst (who has now published several books!) and I continued on. We decided to meet in person at the Highlights Foundation workshop Picture Books & All That Jazz, led by Leslie Helakoskie and Darcy Pattison, in June 2016. While there, we formed a new critique group with three other writers: Rose Cappelli, Jen Fier Jasinski, and Karen LaSalvia. We call ourselves The Highlighters, and we’re still going strong!

I noticed in your bio that you’ve also done publishing in children’s magazines as well as some poetry anthologies. That’s so cool! Can you tell our readers a little more about that writing journey and how you were able to get your footing there?

I read poetry almost every morning, and I consider myself a poet. I’ve always enjoyed reading poetry, and I started writing it just for myself in graduate school. Eventually, I took Renee LaTulippe’s Lyrical Language Lab class. After that, I researched children’s magazines and submitted some poems. It’s similar to the process of querying. You see what topic and/or type of poetry a magazine, journal, or anthology wants and submit something you think might fit.

I’m not 100% about this, but I’ve heard it rumored that agents generally shy away from things like magazines and anthologies because they’re typically smaller deals, which equals less money on their end. So, for your published magazine stories and anthologies, was that something you did on your own before getting literary representation, or is that something your agent was able to help you with?

Yes, I think you are correct. At least, it was correct for my previous agent. She added a line in my contract that I was in charge of any poetry submissions/publications.

Do you have any suggestions for writers or illustrators who may be interested in publishing for magazines, writing poetry for kids, or participating in anthologies? Any good places to go or other tips on learning the writing craft that you recommend?

First, I would encourage people interested in poetry to read a lot of it. Then, practice writing it. In addition to the Lyrical Language Lab, the Highlights Foundation, and other places that offer classes or workshops on poetry. I haven’t taken it yet, but Sylvia Vardell and Janet Wong offer some workshops on poetry and anthologies. Occasionally, I’ll do an online search on “poetry calls for submission” to see if I have anything in which one of these publications might be interested.

I had two wonderful English teachers in high school, Mrs. Karpulk and Miss Beatty, who cemented that love of literacy deep in my bones. Both encouraged my writing, and I owe a debt of gratitude to them for pointing out that writing was a great strength of mine.

I would encourage people interested in poetry to read a lot of it. Then, practice writing it. In addition to the Lyrical Language Lab, the Highlights Foundation and other places offer classes or workshops on poetry.

EARLY STAGES: HIGHS AND LOWS AND CONQUERING MOUNTAINS

Everyone says it- and there’s a reason for it: PUBLISHING IS A JOURNEY. And it’s not for the faint of heart. It requires grit. Tenacity. Perseverance. Passion. And true determination. 

Don’t get me wrong… kidlit is a FANTASTIC place. In fact, it’s my favorite place! It’s filled with so much beauty. But, with the highs come the lows, and taking the waves with grace and patience is an acquired skill. A skill that has to be learned and continually put into practice. So, let’s talk about that.

Why would you say patience is a required skill in publishing? And was this something easy for you to put into practice?


Patience. Right. When my teenage son was a toddler, I prayed for patience. I soon learned to stop doing that because it seemed God was giving me lots of opportunities in which to practice it! Unfortunately, publishing abounds with opportunities for which patience is required. I found I needed an abundance of patience at every stage: writing, revising, receiving critiques, querying, submitting to editors, publishing. I wouldn’t say it was or is ever easy for me, but I have no control over making anything move faster, so I have learned to accept it, even though I don’t like it.

Speaking of patience… can you share a little bit about the early stages of your publishing journey – beginning with the query trenches? (Trust me- they’re called “trenches” for a reason). And for some readers who may be unfamiliar with what the query “trenches” are, can you explain briefly what that expression means- and any words or wisdom you have on how to successfully navigate this tough terrain?

I’m certainly quite familiar with the query trenches—that painful place of spending the amount of time you’d put into a part-time job to research and send your book babies to agents, then wait (often months, even over a year, in some cases) to be told mostly no or to hear nothing back at all. It’s difficult. It’s arduous. It hurts. I’m back in the query trenches right now. More on that later.

Do you recall the first rejection you received? And what was your thought process?

I don’t remember the first rejection specifically, but I do remember feeling a bit like a real writer because I knew writers received a lot of rejections.

What made you continue going and want to try again?

Well, if you want something bad enough, you’re going to get back up on that horse and try again, right? As much as it hurts, if you’re a writer and you want to get published, you have to try, try again. If it’s too tough on your mental health, you may take a break for a while. But eventually, if that’s your dream, you’re going to have to try again.

Rome wasn’t built in a day… and books aren’t published in one either. It’s a long process. People who don’t work in publishing often have little clue as to just how much goes into ONE book deal and how much TIME goes into it as well- especially in the kidlit arena, where you’re also dealing with illustrations and art directors and all that fun stuff. The time can be challenging- even for authors who have been published and at this for years. Can you share any tips on what helps you pass the time?

My biggest tips are to continue reading, creating, and writing new/other works. Like many people, I fall into the constant email-checking trap. But that’s not going to help. It’s a much better strategy to do your best to forget about the thing you’re waiting on and get lost in another project.

Speaking of time… it takes time to climb a mountain. And publishing is, without question, a big mountain to climb. As much as we love hearing the successes- and we really do- and celebrating those positives with our fellow writing community, sometimes only hearing the good stuff can be disheartening to those who might wonder- “is it only me who’s struggling?” Is it easy for everyone else?” So, often in my interviews, I like to share both sides of the story. Because hearing the happy stuff can be just as important as hearing the hard stuff. What challenges have you faced in your writing career, and how were you able to overcome them?

I’ll talk more about a major challenge below. Suffice it to say, I felt I was moving backwards rather than forwards in my author journey. The way I’m overcoming it is to continue to write and create stories: poems, picture books, and middle-grade novels.

Now that we’ve conquered the mountain… I’d love to hear about the view from the top. It’s time for celebration!

Publishing abounds with opportunities for which patience is required. I found I needed an abundance of patience at every stage: writing, revising, receiving critiques, querying, submitting to editors, publishing. I wouldn’t say it was or is ever easy for me, but I have no control over making anything move faster, so I have learned to accept it, even though I don’t like it.

As much as it hurts, if you’re a writer and you want to get published, you have to try, try again. If it’s too tough on your mental health, you may take a break for a while. But eventually, if that’s your dream, you’re going to have to try again.

My biggest tips are to continue reading, creating, and writing new/other works. Like many people, I fall into the constant email-checking trap. But that’s not going to help. It’s a much better strategy to do your best to forget about the thing you’re waiting on and get lost in another project.

CELEBRATING THE VIEW: POSITIVES IN PUBLISHING

When did you sign with your first agent, and who did you sign with? (Agent/agency?)

I signed with my first agent in November of 2020. Unfortunately, I left her last May, so I’d rather not share those details.

Can you tell us how it all happened? Was it through regular querying? A contest? A special conference or query opportunity link? Etc.

I had done an Inked Voices picture book workshop with this agent. She really liked my story and messaged me to query her with it. I wasn’t sold on the changes she wanted, so I took a year before making them and querying her.

What was your agent call like, and when did you know that they were the right agent for you? Explain.
She said many flattering things about my writing. We discussed how she communicates and the ins and outs of the contract.

Finding an agent can be difficult. And having any offer can be tempting. But – is it the right offer? Can you tell us, in your own words, why having the “right” agent is so important? And in your opinion, what makes the “right agent” “right for you?”

Oh, my, Chelsea, you are so right! In my opinion, it’s quite difficult to tell if you are the right match for an agent based on your research of that person or from the call. You often truly won’t know until you begin working together. And sometimes, unfortunately, the relationship doesn’t work out. In my case, it didn’t work out.

Knowing how difficult it is to get an agent, I was afraid to leave. It was an extremely difficult decision, but it was the one I needed to make.

Okay- now you have your agent. It’s time to enter the submission period. What was that process like?

I signed with my agent in early November 2020. We went out on submission with IN THE PALM OF MY HAND mid-January of 2020, and heard that one of the six editors she sent it to was taking it to her team. Mid-April, Running Press Kids made an offer, and I was through-the-moon excited!

About how many manuscripts did your agent send out on sub once you signed, and to roughly how many publishing houses/editors? And what was the timeframe like?

I had an options clause, so we waited a year to send a second book to my publisher. My editor loved it, but she said they had to wait until they saw the sales numbers on pre-orders for IN THE PALM OF MY HAND. At that point, we sent a different, rhyming manuscript on submission. We received some great feedback but no takers. I was also learning to write middle-grade novels. My agent had her new assistant read my (third) middle-grade manuscript. I revised per her notes, and we sent that on submission to approximately nine editors. One of those was interested but had something too similar. So, in the 2 ½ years I was with my agent, she sent my options clause picture book to my editor and one picture and one middle grade out on submission. It’s a tough business.

By the way, I’m currently revising my fifth middle-grade novel. It’s contemporary with a twist of magic.

Who was the first publishing house/editor who you made your first book deal with?
As I mentioned, it was Running Press Kids (local to me in Philadelphia). My editor was Allison Cohen. She was truly magnificent to work with and extremely kind.

Okay… now, you have a bite! It’s your FIRST book deal. Walk us through the details… Tell us all the feels!

The team at Running Press Kids were all wonderful, including my publicist Becca Matheson. They treated me with respect and care. If I ever had a question, they were quick to respond.

Your debut, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND, came out in March 2023. We’d love to hear all about it! Can you give us a brief description of the story for readers who haven’t yet read it?

I’d love to! The blurb is: "On an ambling walk, a child discovers they hold the promise of larger worlds—forests and meadows—in the palm of their hand. An acorn becomes a tree within a woodland wonderland. A grain of sand becomes a sandcastle in a kingdom of imagination. By exploring nature’s tiniest details, they learn even small things, including them, contain infinite potential."

It received wonderful reviews from Kirkus Reviews and School Library Journal! Isabella Conti from Milan, Italy, is the illustrator. Her paintings are simply magical .

What was the inspiration behind writing this, and what do you hope to impart to your readers?

Besides being a nature lover, I also love poetry. The book was inspired by the opening lines of William Blake’s poem “Auguries of Innocence”:
To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.

I imagined how I might interpret this concept for a child. The story starts simply with an acorn in the palm of a child’s hand and builds into a forest and wider concepts of connectivity. Over time, a vast forest may spring from a single acorn. By extension, the child realizes the universe of possibilities growing inside him. This self-esteem boost provides a natural entryway into discussions about children’s passions and dreams. It gives them a chance to reflect on how they can reach for the stars and accomplish their hearts’ desires. I also hope readers notice the connectivity of the natural world.

Speaking of which… how has your story been received since your launch last year?

Everyone who reads it seems to really like it. I’m grateful that Running Press Kids published such a beautiful book.

Have there been any particularly exciting/memorable moments?


I had my launch party at my local library. It was a blast and a much-needed celebration after so many long years of struggle. People have privately sent me pictures of their kids holding the book, and these photos have meant a lot to me. I’ve done book festivals, a librarian conference, a teacher and reading specialist conference, library events, school visits (virtual and in-person), book store events and signings, and recently my first Family Literacy Night. My favorite part of these is seeing children enjoy the book I’ve had a hand in creating.

What has your favorite part of the publishing process been? Explain.

My favorite part of the publishing process has been finally getting to hold my published book. It was a surreal moment. But I don’t take it for granted. Every time I talk about IN THE PALM OF MY HAND, I feel a little thrill.

LAST WORDS

If you had to sum up publishing wisdom in just a few last words… what would you tell others who are pursuing publication?

Don’t give up!

Can you tell us three random things about you that not everyone knows? If you want, they can be two truths and a lie… but you’ll have to give us the answer to which one is the lie.

I attended Space Camp before my senior year of high school. I was a United Methodist pastor. I’m completely in love with my Westie pup, Mazy. These are all true .

Thank you so much for having me on your blog, Chelsea. I truly appreciate it!

It was my pleasure! Thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule to be here with us today and share so much of your heart with us. Sharing this stuff can be vulnerable and we certainly appreciate your honest and kind words. And we are so happy for you and your story, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND. Speaking of which… it's now time for the GIVEAWAY!

Jennifer is offering the following giveaway prize: a signed copy of her debut picture book, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND.

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Jennifer Raudenbush feels most alive when she’s creating stories, especially picture books, poetry, and middle-grade novels. Jen lives with her husband and teenage son in eastern Pennsylvania, where its natural beauty provides endless inspiration. She leads weekly write-ins as a volunteer with Inked Voices and biweekly write-ins with the eastern PA SCBWI. She has been published in Cricket and Little Thoughts Press children’s magazines, the 10.10 Poetry Anthology and Two Truths and a Fib Poetry Anthology. IN THE PALM OF MY HAND, illustrated by Isabella Conti, Running Press Kids (Hachette), is Jen’s first picture book. It was released on March 14, 2023.

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FEBRUARY 7TH, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH BILINGUAL, NEURODIVERSE CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR AND ASSISTANT LITERARY AGENT RACHEL S. HOBBS, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER, & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

Oh my goodness, guys. I don’t know about you, but my January was a roller coaster. It somehow felt like it lasted forever because SO MANY THINGS happened, yet it flew by at the same time. Do you ever have crazy months like that? One second, you’re slugging along, and then BAM. BAM. BAM. Things happen out of nowhere, and FAST! Well, that’s how it was for me. And I’m so happy to be here with you again as we begin a new month together in February. This month, I have a pretty spectacular lineup of guests for you. Today’s guest is particularly special, as she and I have many common shared experiences, which you’ll learn more about here shortly.

But, before I get into the interview portion, I first want to address anyone who may be visiting today for the first time. Welcome! I’m so glad you’re here. Why? Because it means that you are interested in learning. And as we publishing warriors all know- the only way to be successful in this industry is to continue learning. And when I said warriors before, don’t mistake this for a battlefield- it’s not really so much that it’s a fight, although sometimes it can feel that way, but really, what I mean by “warriors” is that publishing requires a tenacity. A determination. A hunger. And as warriors must do, you too must “soldier on.” It’s the only way. And for me personally, I’ve found the greatest way to be able to do this is to share the journey with others who are just as tenacious, determined, and hungry for it. Okay- that’s all nice, but what does this little speech have to do with you being here on my blog today? Well, here is a brief overview of what feature interviews are all about and why they’re so important.

WHAT’S SO GREAT ABOUT FEATURE INTERVIEWS?

Feature Interviews are an INVALUABLE resource for kidlit writers and illustrators at every stage of their publishing journey. Not only are they a great way to stay current on market trends and learn more about the industry’s ins and outs, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publication from the perspectives of a diverse collection of creators.

Every month, I sit down with members of the writing community (authors, illustrators, editors, and agents), and we discuss all things kidlit publishing.

Here are a few examples of topics:

  • Writing workshops and resources
  • Diversity in literature and why it matters
  • Where to find support and community
  • How to improve writing craft and set goals
  • How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
  • Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
  • Querying agents, contract negotiations, book deals, and time frames
  • And, of course- NEW BOOKS!

And now that you have an idea of what I’ve promised- it’s time to deliver. So, let’s get into our feature interview!

Rachel S. Hobbs

Rachel S. Hobbs was born in the US to a Californian father and an Argentine immigrant mother. She grew up with a love of languages and music and received her Bachelor of Arts in Spanish with a minor in music. She works part-time as a literary agent’s assistant and has worked as a children’s educator. She enjoys volunteering and working with children, and in her spare time, you can find her braiding hair at festivals, playing the flute in a band, crocheting, reading, and playing games. She lives in Monterey, CA, with her husband and three kids. Tango Red Riding Hood is her first book, published by Gnome Road Publishing on September 12, 2023.

HOW IT ALL BEGAN

Rachel, it’s so nice to have you visiting on Chelsea’s World of Books blog today. I’m really looking forward to our chat today and getting to share more about our mutually diverse backgrounds. But before we dig into that area, I’d love to hear all about how you got your start in publishing. Can you tell us how it all began? Which came first, the chicken or the egg (the chicken and the egg being “kidlit author” and “literary agent assistant”)?

Great question! I started writing seriously in 2005. I realized during my research and critique group experiences that working in children’s publishing was exactly what I wanted, but I thought it was too late. Let’s cut to 2020 when my first article was published; 2021, when I got my first book deal and my internship at a literary agency; then 2022, when I got my agent’s assistant job; then 2023, when my first book was published! So, the two roles have danced around each other for quite some time.

BEHIND THE AGENT DESK: QUERIES, TRENDS & PET PEEVES

Since you work as both a children’s book author and a literary agent’s assistant, I thought we could take those questions in two sections. Let’s start with “behind the agent’s desk.”  Can you walk us through what being a literary agent’s assistant is like?

There is no quick answer! Basically, it’s amazing, and I love it. It’s very busy and fast-paced, even though if you look at any one particular deal, publishing seems so slow. There are many different types of tasks to accomplish, and you have to juggle them all and reprioritize all the time.

What agent/agency do you work for, and what kind of books do they represent?

I do contract work for Writers House since I’m only part-time and work remotely (the agent I work for has a full-time assistant). I’m lucky to be at such an amazing place with wide resources, surrounded by incredibly talented people. Every type of book that I can think of is represented there.

Are you currently taking clients of your own? If not, do you plan to in the near or distant future? If so, what kind of books (genres) will you look to acquire for your list?

I do contract work, so I’m not in a position to take on clients myself. Even down the line, though, I still will only be interested in children’s books.

Let’s talk trends. Have you noticed any trends that editors and publishing houses are looking for and are not looking for right now?

That is such a hard question, and this might not be a favorable answer, but different editors look for different things! I still see tender, thought-provoking stories, but also very fun, non-serious books. What is hard for an author, I think, is that you wouldn’t know that a publishing house is currently working on a story just like yours, and even though they like your story, it can’t work for that house. So, you really can’t assume the reason why your story was rejected. Also, an editor may have done a bunch of poetry and is ready for something different. If you want to see what publishing houses are acquiring right now, then Publisher’s Marketplace can be helpful. It is uncanny, though, to see waves of submissions for similar sounding manuscripts without people meaning to write on similar topics. I personally don’t think any trend is predictable.

What kinds of stories do you enjoy reading most? Any quirky favorites/guilty pleasures?

I love being shocked by a picture book that, in retrospect, makes me wonder how that was never done before. A recent example of something unexpected was Jon Klassen’s The Skull. I also love picture books that make me want to rip out the pages to frame every single one because of how much I love the art, like Lane Smith’s A Gift for Nana. I treasure humorous picture books whose endings land so well, like Mac Barnett and Marla Frazee’s The Great Zapfino. I love listening to YA audiobooks, usually of the fantasy/sci-fi sort. I absolutely loved Divine Rivals by Rebecca Ross. I can’t recommend it enough. I like graphic novels…I could go on and on!

What are some big querying pet peeves?

All opinions are my own and are not representative of anyone I work for or with. I personally don’t make decisions on query letters. However, here are things that stand out to me unfavorably: when query letters state that their book is the next NYT best seller, or that their family or students love the manuscript; huge or really tiny font size; no name listed (nor is it guessable by the email address); reading a query letter written “by” the animal protagonist of the manuscript; saying no one has ever written about [insert topic] before (note: look for ways your story might fit alongside other stories and use those as comps, then point out how yours is different); saying this is your first book (that doesn’t need to be said) or that you just wrote it.

In your opinion, what hooks an agent?

To be honest, it’s different from agent to agent. I recommend reading manuscript wishlists and seeing what deals were made by that particular agent. (See Publishers Marketplace.) I have found good information by attending conferences, hearing agents speak, and reading their faculty bios. And even if I can’t personally attend a conference, I appreciate learning about agents from friends.

When I’m writing a query letter, I absolutely have critique partners read my pitches. Some people are really great with witty wordings that make your pitch sound snappy and exciting. I think book comps also show you know the industry well and you’ve done your homework.

Once an agent makes an offer of representation, what are the next steps? Walk us through the process. (Typical timeframe- how many manuscripts do you send out on submission- can you send more than one at a time at once- to how many houses? Etc.)

I don’t send anything out myself. I think it’s common, though, to submit to several editors, although if two are at the same house but at different imprints, they might not be able to both extend offers. It seems that usually, one manuscript is sent out per query, but a deal can be made for more than one manuscript. I don’t have a lot of experience in this area.

What is the process for a current client sending new work to their agent? Are they able to reach out directly and let you know they have new work they’d like you to consider, or is the agent responsible for checking in within a certain amount of time to see what new projects their client is working on? Explain.


I don’t work directly with any client, but I know the first one to be true, and I’m not sure about the second one.

CONTRACTS, MONEY & EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN

I know a lot of writers are curious to know about how they and their agent’s both get paid. Can you tell us a little bit about how that works?

The agent takes a 15% commission. The publishing house typically sends the payment to the literary agency, and the literary agency pays the author.

Does the agency you work for offer a standard contract for each client, or do you customize each contract to fit the needs of your individual client?

I know there are boilerplates, but I don’t know the specific answer to your question.

Can you tell us a little bit about some of the things an agent does to aid an author or illustrator in the process of negotiating contracts on their behalf with publishing houses?

An agent will not only look for a good advance but how many slivers the payout is in (fewer slivers mean larger fractions of the advance paid out at a time and preferably not spread to multiple payments after publication). Also, the competitive works clause is crafted so as to not prevent an author from publishing other books. An agent will try to get bonus payments (in case of awards and such) and escalators (higher percentages earned after a certain amount of books are sold). There are more details for sure, but this info is broken down for the author to compare so they can speak to their preference.

What are some of the things you specifically look for in negotiating a fair contract where both your client and the publishing house are happy?

I don’t participate in this aspect, but it’s always great to hear that an author gets to work with someone they really click with who is just as passionate about their work as they are. I think when both parties feel like winners, it’s something to celebrate!

About how many clients, on average, does your agency take on every year?


I don’t know—there are 28 agents at Writers House, and some are more established than others who have recently begun taking on their own clients.

Does your agency represent authors and illustrators? Or just authors?

Authors, illustrators, and author/illustrators.

BEHIND THE AUTHOR DESK

Okay, we’ve gotten through the agent questions. Now for our author questions. Can you tell us about a day in the life as a kidlit writer?

I can’t tell you about ANY kidlit writer’s day, but I can tell you about mine! I work in the morning and then work a little bit on my writing, then go to the gym and try to work more on my writing if I can do it on a stationary bike. This might include reading craft books as well. I have family obligations that need urgent attention, and my own health works against me at times, so sometimes I get more done than at other times. I am frequently behind on my goals, emails, and other obligations. It’s hard not to feel like a failure every single day, especially when I compare myself to what I see on “the outside” from other authors. I try to extend grace to myself and give it a shot the next day., At the end of each day, I listen to audiobooks, usually YA.

What kind of children’s literature do you write?

Picture book manuscripts and I’m currently adapting one to middle grade and one to a chapter book. Wish me luck!

And favorite topics to write about?


I love fantastical things and I also love writing from my life, and I usually put the two together. I enjoy sharing aspects of my Argentine culture and also insecurities/challenges that I have experienced (and still do!).

Where do find your inspiration to write children’s literature?

My childhood, my culture, the kids I have worked with, and the things I read.

How do you keep that spark going while balancing your other obligations?

I have ADHD and can’t focus almost at all. My mind has always wandered and still does, but it leads me to many interesting creative avenues, so I’m always building something new in my head. I can also be productive while letting my mind wander—while I’m shelving books at the library where I volunteer, or while I’m braiding hair at the festivals I work at, or while doing chores.

What is your favorite part about being a children’s book author? And is it something you’ve always known you wanted? Or did you discover your passion for writing later in life?

I’ve always told stories and wanted to tell stories. I only admitted out loud that I wanted to be a children’s book author in 1999 because I was so embarrassed to say it, feeling the imposter syndrome so badly. The best thing about being published is knowing a kid that I may not have met or ever will meet can have a story that I wrote and cherish in their hands and that they can see themselves in what I shared.

Speaking of stories… we’d love to hear all about TANGO RED RIDING HOOD and how it came about. Can you share the story behind the story?

Sure! I was listening to a YA audiobook in 2020, and when the main character walks into a ball and gets swept into a dance by “the guy,” I found myself wishing it would be tango, and it wasn’t. I reflected on my love for tango, how much I appreciated growing up listening to tango and wishing other kids could listen to it to. The verses that I wrote, following the rhythm to El Choclo, came first, and then the retelling formed around that.

What was your publication/submission journey like for that book?

I submitted it to several agents, but only a couple were interested. They asked for more work but turned me down. I participated in a Twitter (at the time) pitch, and Sandra at Gnome Road Publishing invited me to submit. I got an R&R and worked on the manuscript some more, then sent it back and got an offer on April 1, 2021.

Do you have any favorite illustrations from the story? If so, which ones and why? Feel free to share some pictures of your favorite spreads!

This is impossible to answer because I am madly, deeply, over-the-top in love with Carolina Vásquez’s illustrations. That is no exaggeration! The least expected page would probably be the one where Moni’s feet are zoomed in, and the text says, “I must hurry to la casa de mi Abuela."

The muted background of the mountains and forest with the vibrant foreground focusing on her feet gives a sense of urgency while feeling that the distance might be too great. But this young, innocent heart will try anyway to make it safely to her grandmother’s house. There is so much feeling in that page spread, and I think it’s beautiful.
Of course, I also love the page where Lobo’s tongue is dripping in such an alarming way (!), also where you see the bandoneón for the first time, the page spread with Lobo playing music, Moni dancing, and the music notes on top, the scene (SPOILER) of Abuela’s arms extended, the scene of them looking at a dictionary together, and the old tango records. I know this is too many!

I can’t blame you. If I were on the receiving end of this question, I would have difficulty choosing just one, too. They’re all fantastic!

DIVERSITY IN LITERATURE AND WHY IT’S SO IMPORTANT

I was *SO* excited reading over your application. Not just because your work is terrific- which it IS- but also because I have a lot of mutually shared experiences with you. Being neurodiverse myself (ADHD), dealing with multiple mental health struggles such as anxiety and depression, and also coming from a Latin background, your experiences resonated with me on a lot of levels. So, I was thrilled to get the opportunity to share a conversation with, in a way, a kindred spirit. And, of course, I was happy dancing at the thought of chatting with you about your book, TANGO RED RIDING HOOD. For those of you who haven’t read it, imagine DORA THE EXPLORER meets LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD (but with more music and movement).

A Latin twist on a beloved fairytale classic? Fun bilingual language? Yummy foods? Music and dance? YES PLEASE! Can you share how you first got the idea for writing this story?

I mentioned above how the idea began. But what it boiled down to was: I grew up with a culture my peers did not. There were some things we did at home (like listening to tango music) that no one else around me did. But I was passionate about these things that I didn’t know how to share. So, by 2020, I was ready to share that experience with kids and help them feel what I felt through means that would already be familiar to them. And for kids who read it who share some of my background, this would be a way to be seen.

Let’s talk more about Tango Red Riding Hood. First off, it’s such a joyful book and so much fun to read. I love how you wove so much culture into every detail of this story… and how you skillfully used family, music, food, and dance as a universal common ground to engage readers. And, to top it off, you added an educational angle to your story by creating bilingual text. You can really feel the personal touch and heart in this book. Coming from the cultural side, can you tell us what this story means to you?

This story is the most personal one I’ve written because it encompassed so much about me personally, even though it seems like just a retelling! I had to learn Spanish through high school and college because my mom didn’t teach me directly. She was learning English as I was growing up. I understood her Spanish but could not speak it back. When I started learning, I made many mistakes, and even as an adult, I made an embarrassing mistake that made another adult laugh! I wanted to embrace the fact that even if you come from a culture, that doesn’t mean you know everything about it, including the language! In TANGO RED RIDING HOOD, Moni clearly is Argentine but has to learn Spanish. That’s more common about Latin Americans in the US than you might think. I loved that the illustrator is Argentine herself, and she added so many Argentine touches that I didn’t even have references to, like the tea “mate” and the other pastry, “media lunas.” She made the bottom half of the hoodie into a poncho and much more! I cried when I saw those elements and when I saw Abuela. She reminds me of my mom. I wonder what it would have been like to have a book I could have shared with my friends. Maybe I wouldn’t have had to feel like parts of myself were left at home.

Have you been able to host any author events with this story?

I had one school visit and three author events at bookstores (and then took a respite). I was most nervous about singing the verses out loud! I love singing, but I feel more comfortable in an ensemble, not as a soloist. I had to practice a lot, make sure I started on the right pitch so I didn’t have to sing too high, and just pump myself up for it! I had a great time, though, and hope to get back to it.
How fun! And I just love the pictures. 

What kind of response have you received from this book from your readers?


An older lady I didn’t know at my first event pulled my husband aside before leaving to tell him to pass along a message to me about how special this book was for her. She is originally from Argentina and had never seen a book like this. My husband was in tears relaying this message to me, and I could feel love from both of them.

My family has happily shared my book with others, and it makes me feel proud that they can share a piece of themselves through this book, too. One parent on Instagram said how happy they were to share this book with their young daughter, who will get to have a piece of her culture to look at as well (she is also half-Argentine).

My niece was so excited at one of my readings, and my brother says she asks him to read it again and again.

One of the best experiences I had was at the elementary school, where I was reading it to each class. Due to a fluke, one boy heard it twice, and right before I sang the first verse for his second time hearing it, he said out loud to the kids around him, “This is my favorite part!”

Oh my gosh- I love these experiences. So beautiful. Thank you for sharing them with us. It made my day- and hopefully, someone else’s too!

What do you hope to bring readers with Tango Red Riding Hood?

I hope I bring music and dance into people’s lives, maybe in a way they hadn’t previously experienced. I hope I bring bravery—the idea that taking a chance (like learning a new language) is always better than staying inside a small, comfortable bubble. I hope I bring a viewpoint into a culture, and I hope I bring laughter.

I really love seeing stories (especially children’s books) that are inclusive of diverse cultures and characters. When we incorporate a variety of children and backgrounds into books, it not only gives children from those cultures confidence but it allows for more understanding, empathy, compassion, and awareness of each of our differences. And books that celebrate cultural differences are SO important! Can you share your thoughts on diversity in literature and why it’s so important?

You already said it so perfectly! Grace Lin was a keynote speaker at a conference I went to in 2017 (SCBWI California North/Central Spring Spirit Conference), and she said part of her presentation was included in her TED talk about mirrors and windows. I highly recommend watching it on YouTube! (Search for Grace Lin windows and mirrors.) Her speech was so impactful to me that it changed the way I wrote. I hadn’t ever really considered bringing my cultural background into my stories like that. I was still seeing my culture as an “other” in my life, not as something I could wholly embrace in this way.

I think my writing has improved because of that mindset shift, and clearly this was my first book that sold! It feels amazing seeing that my life experiences can be an asset to my storytelling, not as something to set aside. I think it’s important as an author to feel free to be themselves while writing and for a child to see themselves while reading.

I also think it’s hugely important for a child to not see themselves exactly but be able to connect with the story anyway because of universal truths. Some kids grow up in a very homogenous town. Unless they can peek into the lives of others around the world, they won’t understand global issues when they are older, nor know how to relate to anyone else. This was very obvious to me as soon as I left home for college, and I felt like I had to “educate” people around me who hadn’t been exposed to other cultures. Adults still need to be aware of each other: look to see what you’ve been reading. Are they written by people who are only just like you?

Yes. There’s so much truth in what you’re saying, and I completely agree. While we’re on the topic of inclusive books, let’s talk about some other forms of diversity.

OVERCOMING CHALLENGES AND EMBRACING UNIQUE ABILITIES

Mental diversity and disabilities can be a sensitive topic. And they can present their own set of challenges. Can you share a little bit about your personal experiences (related or unrelated to publishing) dealing with learning disabilities and mental health struggles?

I grew up thinking I was “stupid.” That’s what I would repeatedly call myself. I knew I couldn’t understand things as quickly as my peers, if at all. I didn’t test well, and I was behind. I remember in high school leaving a group in class as a senior and just crying because I didn’t understand any of the science terminology they were using or the numbers or how they got them. I was in such despair. I thought I might as well have been stranded alone on a deserted island, that’s how alone I felt.

By my sophomore year in college, I went to a center for students with disabilities to be tested. That led me to having an unspecified learning disability and ADHD diagnosis, which also led me to accommodations. Looking at the results was shocking—it turns out I wasn’t “stupid.” I was actually bright, but my disabilities would have always clouded that over for me if I hadn’t been tested.

I now know what I need. I need more time than other people, and I’m pretty comfortable asking for it. It also means that when I learn a new task, you’ll have to teach me over and over again until I understand it, but once I do, I really have it down. This means I have to tell supervisors that I need to learn it again or to please be patient with me. And the good ones are willing and patient. Sometimes, it’s embarrassing for me, and I still get that massive panic feeling if I’m at a meeting where a lot of new information is disseminated quickly and all at once, but when that happens, I have to remind myself that I’m bright, I just need more time. And sometimes, I just have to raise my hand to ask “obvious” clarifying questions. And I haven’t been scolded for asking those questions.

The benefit is that I understand kids who struggle. And I want to be cognizant of that when I read to kids or answer questions. In my job, my supervisor has been patient and understanding. I haven’t been made to feel bad about my shortcomings. The learning curve was huge in starting my job. Even after the internship! There is so much to still learn. I’m getting better and better at leaving myself effective notes as reminders. I’m getting better at combing through all the details. I’m getting better at creating just the right organizational spreadsheets and color-coding for my visual learning strength. I’m ok. I can do this. I might be slow at writing and researching, but once again, I’m ok, I can do this.

Despite the challenges that learning differences and other disabilities can present, one of the things I like to encourage my readers to do (and actually, I have information on this very topic at the end of my book, ADHD AND ME) is to find the ADVANTAGE in disADVANTAGE. And, of course, this is not to suggest being unrealistic… but instead, it involves training your perspective. Instead of focusing on what you can’t do, or struggle to do, instead, focusing on your unique set of abilities that only you have and figuring out how to use them as a tool.

Each of us has our own set of “gifts” and skills that make us stand apart, so basically, find those silver linings and use them to your best ability. Remember- every glass that is half empty is also half full. So, make sure you maintain a realistic and positive perspective of your personal talents while remembering to balance your needs and respect your limitations.

Do you have any strategies that you find to be helpful? Explain.


I already mentioned things that help me in my job, but as for my writing, I highlight or leave sticky notes on books on craft. I listen to soundscapes on the Calm app for a constant noise, which helps my ADHD. Sometimes, I have family members read to me when my ADHD and OCD dovetail and I’m stuck reading the same sentence over and over and over again. I write immediately after work if I’m in a good workflow to piggyback on the momentum. I research, read, or take notes while working out (safely!) so that each task benefits the other with my ADHD. I talk my stories and ideas out to my bestie on the phone, which clarifies my thoughts.

What kind of silver linings have you discovered within your own set of unique abilities?

I’m honestly really good at note-taking (for myself, anyway!) and can find exactly where I need to return to get the piece of information I want. I’m great at multitasking. And I love, love, love the amount of different tasks I have as an agent’s assistant and thrive off of switching tasks constantly. I’ve never had a job that I loved more or suited me better. And since I have to reread a lot due to my ADHD and OCD, I remember details very, very well and write good reports on the manuscripts I read. And as far as writing goes, I have a lot of ideas and stories juggling around my brain and I’m comfortable with that.

If you could share any words of encouragement or advice with readers who may deal with similar circumstances in one (or all) of these areas- what would you like to tell them?

Be patient with yourself, and don’t compare. Really! Don’t get bothered by the social media posts/tweets that say how relieved they are that their first book is coming out when they’re 29 because their goal was to be published in their 20s, and they barely made it. Who cares if you’re in your 30’s, 50s, 50’s or 80s when you are first published? Enjoy things as they are at the pace you need.

And if you have OCD—plan ahead for book signings. Everyone’s OCD manifests differently, but when I felt more comfortable with a mask (I also am immunocompromised), I had one on hand. Since I knew I’d be touching people (hugs or shaking hands), I made sure to have hand sanitizer with me or know where the nearest sink and soap were. Also, if someone touched my pen, I could use the hand sanitizer to clean it off.

For my learning disability—I brought sticky notes for people to write the name they wanted the book dedicated to because I can’t hear a name and register it in my mind that quickly. I also can’t hear something spelled out loud without taking more time than I have.

For my anxiety—I brought pills that I could safely take and had family and friends who know my limitations around me as emotional anchors.

TIPS AND RESOURCES FOR KIDLIT WRITERS AND ILLUSTRATORS

Coming from the unique perspective of both sides of the publishing desk, what tips and resources would you like to share with aspiring writers and illustrators from A. The agenting side of the desk and B. The author’s side of the desk?

A. Research the agent you are sending your manuscript to. If the agent only represents children’s fiction, don’t send adult non-fiction. Be patient, publishing one book after acquisition takes a long time (including the contract process), and you’re not the only client your agent has or the only person your editor is working with. Do check in politely. If you need a deadline extended just ask. When you’ve submitted and are “waiting,” or if your book is in the process of being published, don’t wait around. Keep working on the next thing. If you don’t know how to find an agent, look at Publisher’s Marketplace, Query Tracker, conferences, and acknowledgements in the back of a novel. Workshop your query letter like you would your manuscript. If you get an R&R, take your time—don’t make hasty corrections then send it back right away. Don’t take rejections personally.

B. Take the time you need. If you are unwell (chronic illness or mental health issues), it’s ok to take a break—publishing will always be there, and so will your ideas. If you can and would like to, you can keep creating in your mind, or leave voice memos, or jot down notes, so you can develop your stories as you are able. You don’t actually HAVE to write every single day. Share a piece of you in your stories. If your heart is in it, it will show (even if it’s a silly book!). Find a critique group of people who are honest but incredibly kind who want to see you succeed. Read books on craft. Go to conferences (in person or online), even if you think you already know the information. Look for scholarships to attend those conferences, to pay for SCBWI, or take classes. You don’t need to spend a lot of money to succeed if you check out books and get those scholarships. Find support through social media if that is helpful. Once you follow one person, it’s easier to find another.

Are there any groups or places that helped you specifically on your writing journey that you’d like to share?

I had a mentorship through Las Musas during the writing of my manuscript, and it was monumental for me. Ana Siqueira was very knowledgeable, encouraging, and kind. I recommend looking for mentorships. I found out about Las Musas through LatinxPitch, so finding a community you connect with online can be incredibly helpful.

Any last tidbits or words of wisdom you’d like to share with our readers?

Write because you love it, not just for the goal of publishing.

Thank you so much for joining us today, Rachel. We appreciate you being with us and look forward to reading more of your stories on your continued publishing journey!

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FEATURE INTERVIEW with local indie author Anne-Geri’ Fann

Angie’s Fabulous Bio:

Anne-Geri’ (“Angie”) and her extremely cool husband David love laughing with friends so hard that beverage comes out of their noses. Her mission experience extends from her birthplace of New Zealand to all over the world, but her primary work is in Honduras, where she has co-directed youth camps and led short-term mission teams for over 20 years. She is a little bit of a hippie who enjoys her large organic garden and a good cup of hot tea after a hearty hike in the mountains. Her favorite animal is the donkey because when it brays, it reminds her that even on her best day as a human being, she sounds pretty ridiculous compared to her great God. Angie is a blogger and a High School Spanish teacher and often teaches Religion courses at the university level. She is fluent in Spanish and dangerous in German, but her Klingon is hopeless.

Author of Scent of Pine: A Christmas Story for Family Time and How to Get Ready for Short-Term Missions.

A little background on my relationship with Angie: 

Angie and I have the pleasure of working together in the library, and we both share a passion for writing. It’s always wonderful connecting with other writers, and working with them in person is even cooler! 

Fun fact about Angie: not only can she rocks hats like no one I’ve ever seen, but she’s a really awesome and knowledgeable lady, so working with her is an extra treat. So, let’s dive right into the interview.
Angie, what is your favorite genre to read? And does this inspire your own writing? 

I love a good mystery; I haven’t written a mystery … yet.  It’s in the works!  However …

Mysteries have always been one of my favorite genres, both to read and write. I love the suspense and excitement that comes with trying to solve a good mystery. It’s also fun to try and come up with new and interesting puzzles for my readers to solve. Writing mysteries is a great way to exercise your imagination and creativity. Mystery was the inspiration for The Scripture Scout Christian Resources ... where one takes up a magnifying glass and, like Sherlock Holmes, discovers the footprints of Jesus in every part of the word of God ... even in Genesis.  Our “mascot” is a magnifying glass and a Bible.  But more on that later …

At what point in your life did you realize you wanted to be a writer? Was it something you always enjoyed doing, or did you find your passion later in life? 

When I was younger, writing seemed to come naturally, and it made me happy. It didn’t matter if anyone else liked my work or not - all that mattered is getting those words on paper!

Can you tell us briefly about the books you have published and what inspired them?

My first book was published by Thomas Nelson publishing in 2006.  I wrote it with an old college friend and later colleague, Greg Taylor. From his missionary experience in Africa and mine as a regular short-term trip leader to Honduras, we pulled our sources together to write a self-help nonfiction work, This resource was inspired by both of us having gone on mission trips (and brought teams) where things didn’t go according to plan because of poor preparation.  This largely happens when teams are not properly ready to work cross-culturally in another culture’s land...but now there is hope!   “How to Get Ready for Short-Term Missions” was the very first book of its kind.

How long did it take you to write your books? And what made you decide to go the indie publishing route vs. traditional publication?

I remember giving each other deadlines, and it came together through editing back and forth over a few months, I believe.  That was when you had to pitch to a publisher who decided they liked you.  And so, as I had prepared other works and found that the indie route was more successful.  The process has since become simpler (and oftentimes financially rewarding) for those who wish to take on their own projects with minimal help from a big company!

Can you tell us the pros and cons you’ve faced on your self-publishing journey?

PROS:  I would say creative control and less waiting around for your book to be “seen.”

CONS:  The only way to get visibility is to “know” people or actually KNOW HOW to DIY on the world wide web and online marketplace.

If you could give one piece of advice to other indie authors, what would it be?

Start with a blog/website and build a fan base, give freebies, then start sharing your products when you know they trust you and your resources.

We already know that when you aren’t writing, you’re working in the library, but what other work do you do and hobbies do you have? Do you have any other creative passions we don’t know about?

Writing pretty much IS my hobby AND job!  The latest book, SCENT OF PINE, is the outcome of a hobby.  The job is building products for THE SCRIPTURE SCOUT CHRISTIAN RESOURCES.

www.thescripturescout.com – the hub and base for the three sites you will find there, which include:

“Devotional Discoveries” 

“Godspeed Missions” 

“The Supercharged Sunday School”   

You can subscribe and get loads of freebie at you’re your preferred place and get literally loads of awesome freebies!

Can you tell us something about you that not many people know? 

Hmmm… probably these two things:

1. That I have done a LOT of theatre with many different theatre companies in the Nashville area.

2.That most people call me by my given name, Anne-Geri’ – but saying it out loud confuses people when it’s on name tags, so if I have to wear one, it says “Angie.”

Now for some fun questions….

Sweet or salty?

Salty until recently (blood pressure) – now I guess my “secret snack” is ice cream instead of chips!  Lol  *weeps openly*

Favorite color? 

Purple

Warm weather or cold weather? 

BOTH! I love seasonal changes.

Coffee or tea? Iced or hot? 

Give me a good hot cuppa any day.  If you know what a “cuppa” is, you’ll know the answer!

Favorite color? 

Oh no, now I’m confused – green?  (lol, jk, it’s purple --- I think …)

That was a test... you passed!

Favorite animal? 

Cat

Favorite tv show? 

Oh, poot, I guess it depends on the genre!  I’ll do comedies:  Frasier, Only Murders in the Building. and The Vicar of Dibley.

Top five favorite authors/books? 

(Yes, I READ every one of these before their works became tv shows or movies)

*doing alphabetical here* 

Diana Gabaldon

Martha Grimes

John Irving

J.K. Rowling

Dorothy L. Sayers

If you could teleport anywhere in the world, where would you go first?

Hmm.  I’d say either the backyard swing behind my first home in Auckland, New Zealand – because I hear it’s still there (and if possible, under a rainbow) OR the big rock in the river in behind the village of Silin outside of Trujillo, Honduras.

Tell us about your latest writing projects! What are you working on now? 

We just released a product for The Scripture Scout Christian Resources under Supercharged Sunday School.  It is a year’s worth of Sunday School curriculum that can be used over and over again without repeating itself.  For example, a church kids ministry can use the same lesson across the board with all ages. Each teacher uses a different age-appropriate resource from that lesson, and every child in the kids’ ministry, 3rd through 8th grade, gets taught the same thing!  It can be found HERE.

Thank you so much, Angie, for sharing with us!

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