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HOW TO MANAGE MAJOR CAREER SHIFTS AND COME OUT ON TOP: FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH FORMER BIOLOGY PROFESSOR, NOW HOMESCHOOL MOM AND KIDLIT AUTHOR DANNA ZEIGER, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT AUTHOR AND LITERARY BLOGGER, CHELSEA DICICCO

Posted on December 17, 2025December 17, 2025 by Chelsea’s World of Books in Feature Interview Series, View all blog posts

In today’s Feature Interview, I’m chatting with former Biology Professor, now Homeschool Mom and Children’s Book Author, Danna Zeiger. We’ll be discussing accessibility and disability awareness in kidlit, as well as how to manage major career shifts and the many hurdles they come with, and why the benefits outweigh the struggles.

Danna, it’s wonderful to have you with us! Can you tell us where you’re joining us from today?

Thank you so much for having me, Chelsea! I’m so excited to be here. I’m joining you from the Boston area.

How did you hear about Chelsea’s World of Books Literary Blog, and what made you want to apply for a guest Feature Interview?

I’ve read several of your fantastic, thorough interviews, so when I saw the application window open last year, I knew I had to try!

I was intrigued by your application, and I’m excited to learn more about your “unconventional route to publishing.” My hope in sharing your interview is to inspire others to chase their dreams- nothing is impossible if you don’t give up! So, let’s jump right in. Could you tell us about your day job before children’s publishing was in the mix?

Thanks! I was a biology professor and the program director for the biology bachelor’s degree at a local college. I had been in the unique position to create the program before running it for seven years. I come from an immigrant family myself, so it was especially fulfilling to serve disadvantaged and first-in-the-family students from diverse backgrounds. I taught lectures and labs from first-year biology (or non-major!) students all the way through the senior thesis course for my seniors. I helped them secure solid internships and got them ready for the world. I partnered with neighboring institutions and universities to create interesting lecture series or research opportunities. I advised dozens of students through their college experience, ensuring they made some good choices and shepherding those who were graduate school bound. My students often had one–or three!–full-time jobs on the side to get themselves through college, so there was also lots of time spent counseling students, helping them manage all of their responsibilities, and working creatively to make it happen, as well as drawing out challenging biology pathways on my whiteboard in my office during office hours. I served on college committees, worked on new course and degree development, and overall had a full and busy life as a professor.

Now enter the *spark* that started it all. What was that beginning spark for you that made you take the leap in shifting careers from Biology Professor to Homeschool Mom and Children’s Book Author?

When COVID hit, I resigned from my position, much to the shock of many people in my professional, friend, and family circles. But with a newborn baby who needed a lot of caretaking (and no nannies to be found at the time), a preschooler for whom Zoom school did not work, and a sobbing elementary school child frustrated with online learning, plus immunocompromised people at home and not enough remote work support, it simply was not possible for me to stay in my position.

I started homeschooling all three kiddos and was devouring hundreds of books, reading each month with them.

One day, while running a writing exercise for the kiddos after reading Chris Van Dusen’s If I Built a House, I had an idea for a picture book.

I should mention that, in addition to being a perpetual bookworm, I have always been a creative writer, naturally gravitating towards poetry and literature since I was a young kid, writing poems in multiple languages, and finding creative outlets my whole life. So it was well within my bucket list to one day become an author, especially a children’s book author. I just always thought that day was long in the future.

When I told my husband my picture book idea that “someone” should write, he responded with, “yes, you should.” I was shocked at first, but dove into what it took to become a traditionally published children’s book author, thanks to my dear friend who happened to be personally connected to Chana Stiefel (what an author giant to get to know!!!), and Chana kindly, generously offered both feedback and guidance on what it takes. While our mutual friend, who was initially mildly interested in what Chana might say, pretty much ran away screaming, Chana’s long list of hard work felt exciting and fascinating to me. And that is how I knew it was worth pursuing!

I give my husband a lot of credit, both for initially encouraging me to try it and then continuing to remind me that I must invest in myself and take myself seriously as an author if I want to become one. I took classes, joined critique groups, and carved out time from our busy homeschooling schedule.

-Amazing! We love hearing about supportive husbands. I am thankful enough to have one of those myself! They can really help boost your courage and belief in yourself.

Tell us about that beginning time. What were your thoughts? I’m guessing it was a mixture of scary and exciting- all the best things in life are. 🙂

It was a really exciting time! For me, the scariest part had already happened–leaving my job. I did worry about striking a balance between homeschool and writing, but my kids were my cheerleaders from day one, and I was able to take it for myself without them feeling it.

This was an exciting new prospect, but I definitely had imposter syndrome. Did I have what it took? I was a biology professor–what made me think I could write creatively, professionally? I hadn’t been an English major (although I loved my English classes and had taken AP Creative Writing!), so I had real concerns!

It was a steep learning curve: learning how the industry worked, learning to critique and receive feedback, finding groups and critique partners, the writing and publishing organizations. What was an imprint vs. a publisher vs. an editor? I truly have a whole bookshelf with publishing books I’ve read (in addition to the library ones I borrowed) in order to figure all of this out.

I quickly realized I should not submit to publishers alone and that I needed an agent. I did the thing you’re not supposed to do and queried with my very first manuscript! It did land me an agent, thankfully, but it did not land me a book deal… yet. Hooks, saleability, and the business side of publishing matters… I still had a lot to learn!

What were/are some of the hurdles that you’ve had to overcome, and how have you been able to do so?

I think publishing is mostly full of hurdles, a lot of luck, with a few spotlights of wins, LOL! I probably carry some intensity from my academic career with me, and I’m not afraid of hard work. So I try to throw everything I’ve got into this basket and push past the challenges!

Personally, it was challenging to carve out enough time for myself, so I had to get creative. Nap time? Quick, read through a new manuscript. Sitting with the kids at their activity, like gymnastics or dance? I had a critique partner’s manuscript queued up to read and comment on. Bedtime for kiddos? Yes, I loved writing so much that instead of watching TV, I would plow away at my manuscripts.

In terms of publishing, I wished for an agent so badly. I was fortunate to find one pretty quickly, and she is a great agent who makes awesome deals. However, I quickly learned that as an author, I needed more communication from my agent, so I voluntarily thrust myself back into the trenches. Luckily, I got another agent quickly again–and this time, this was a career match! Jonathan got me my first book deal and was a great support. Sadly, he decided to leave agenting (another hurdle), but my agency stepped in and had my back. A new agent absorbed some of his old clients, and my current and hopefully forever agent, Gaby Cabezut, read my work and decided to take me on! Exceptional luck, I know.

There are so many hurdles still to overcome. I have loads of ideas and work on many projects. Trying to assess which are the most marketable with the most hooks is tough. Bringing a manuscript to the true polished state–giving it time (another hurdle!) and reading it with new eyes is also tough. I’m also always trying to diversify my portfolio and write in new genres and categories.

Have there been any organizations/contests/resources/people who have helped you stay positive and motivated to continue pursuing this path?

Oh, yes! Apologies in advance for this long answer, and even bigger apologies for anyone I might inadvertently leave out–but the kidlit community is so supportive, and I have had so much help along the way.

I mentioned Chana Stiefel–she will forever be my very first critique and serious foray into children’s book publishing.

I joined Storyteller Academy, and the very first editor I listened to was this animated, articulate, smart STEM editor! I learned a lot from her one session. Ironically, she–Carol Hinz–became my first editor years later! I wisely did not submit any manuscript at the time, despite the submission opportunity, because I intuited that my work was just not good enough yet for such a sharp reader. And I can say now that I was right!

I joined SCBWI and attended virtual conferences. I joined Facebook groups, and critique groups kindly welcomed me. Thanks to Covid, everything was online, so local groups were open to someone who geographically lived even an hour away. Thanks forever to so many critique partners who welcomed me into already established groups comprising phenomenal members.

I’ve tried various things. I’m grateful to Inked Voices for many opportunities and workshops, from which I’ve also learned so much!

But way back when I started, and had only just become agented, I still felt pretty unsure of myself. I entered my very first writing contest in my entire life: Vivian Kirkfield’s famous 50 Precious Words Contest. I’m not sure if she and the judges will ever fully understand what they did for me, but placing 5th out of 750 strong writers, judged by real authors, with incredible, real prizes to boot, was my very first sign that I might not be insane for trying this writing endeavor! I won an invaluable critique by editor Thalia Leaf, who offered me essential insight I continue to carry. I continued on with other contests, including Kaitlyn Sanchez and Ciara O’Neal’s Spring Fling Contest, where I placed first and won a critique with the amazing Alyssa Henkin. Alyssa’s feedback helped me bring my debut book’s manuscript closer to the finish line, and I’m forever grateful. I’m also grateful to Lynne Marie and her Rate Your Story Contest, where I won first place, and she continues to support my work. Other contests and wins have been great, too–like Susanna Leonard Hill’s Holiday Contest. There are so many amazing opportunities! And so, so many kidlit people stepped up as my debut launched to host me for interviews, celebrate my cover reveals or launch, or promote me in any way possible!

And I would be extremely remiss not to mention PJ Library. If Vivian Kirkfield’s contest was the first to make me feel like I might be able to hack writing, PJ Library was the first organization to award me a monetary prize and sponsor me, in-person, into a tight community I continue to love today. PJ Library sent me to the Highlights Foundation Retreat Center for the most transformative experience with twenty other Jewish authors I’m still in touch with. This incredible group has been critical through the last two years and soaring antisemitism, as well as personally, as my dad passed away, or when my kids have had emergency surgery, etc.

PJ Library also awarded me a Highlights scholarship, where I learned so much from Harold Underdown and Eileen Robinson, as well as what used to be called the Partial Author’s Incentive award for my pre-published middle grade. Finally, PJ Library also awarded me a Sephardic Stories Initiative fellowship, where I have been immersed with a new community and have been able to dive deep into stories I had tried to write a while ago, and have given more energy and oxygen to lately. As far as organizations go, I am indebted to PJ Library and will need to write them into every single acknowledgement of hopefully many books to come. They have been incredibly supportive of my writing career, and I have learned so much, networked, met many people, found communities, and grown as a writer, all thanks to them.

-So many fantastic community resources and groups you mentioned here, Danna! Thank you for all the shoutouts. I am familiar with all of the above-mentioned groups/contests and could not speak more highly of their positive impact!

Looking back, would you say that the benefits outweigh the struggles? Why or why not?

Absolutely! Publishing is a long hill to climb, but the views sure are breathtaking. I truly feel like I am living my dream.

For readers who may be early on in their publishing career stages (pre-pubbed/pre-agented), could you share a bit about your process… querying, rejections, timeframe, etc?

The best advice I can give people early on is to do more of three things than they think they need:

Read! However much you read, read more. Whatever you want to write, read more! Study the books, analyze them, find the patterns, study what is successful and what is not, form opinions about what works best, think about the openings/closings, etc.
Give it time! Whenever you think a manuscript is ready, put it down and pick it up again in a few weeks or more. I’m the most eager to birth every story, and I need to slow myself down.
Make connections! Find support networks, critique groups, attend webinars, and find every opportunity to connect with other authors, agents, editors, and publishers.

None of publishing is in any of our control. I think you have to really want it, and if you do, pour yourself into it. I’m a big fan of hard work, and it still often takes a while to pay off. But the most important piece is really the manuscript. Writing your best work, thinking about hooks and saleability, etc. The query letter itself doesn’t matter as much as the manuscript itself. And an agent doesn’t guarantee you a book sale. If you keep giving your best effort, eventually, at some point, you will reach your milestone–be it agent, book deal, or whatever.

“None of publishing is in any of our control. I think you have to really want it…” – Danna Zeiger

So, you finally land your publishing partner- AKA your literary agent! Could you tell us about how that happened? Cold query? Event? Special opportunity? Etc.

Yes! Gaby Cabezut! I mentioned above that my agent #2, Jonathan Rosen, decided to leave agenting. Gaby was newer and she looked through Jonathan’s clients’ work–and decided to offer me representation! I’m so grateful. Jonathan told me Gaby was sweet and smart, and he was so right! Every time I chat with Gaby, I come off of our Zoom with a huge smile and feeling incredibly supported. She is smart and savvy, a fantastic advocate, and gives excellent guidance. It has been an awesome ride together and I’m pretty sure now that Gaby is not only officially my longest standing agent, I hope that she will be my forever agent!

What was your agent call like, and how did you know that your agent was the right fit for you? (This is such an important piece of information for readers to know, because not EVERY agent is the RIGHT agent. So much of a positive agent/author relationship depends on the right “fit.”) What things do you find to be “green flags” in a good author/agent relationship? And what words of advice would you give to a person who’s looking for representation for their writing?

I have been lucky to have had four agent calls. The first time in the trenches, I got two offers! My second time in the trenches, I had a call with Jonathan. And luckily, Gaby didn’t make me go back into the trenches–so as part of the transfer when Jonathan left, I Zoomed with both Gaby and the president of our agency.

So from these four calls, I think the essential pieces are getting a feel for each other, feeling comfortable together, and feeling like this is a nice person, and someone who not only loves your work but will champion it. A lot of publishing, as it turns out, is relationship-building. Making sure you are kind and that the other person is kind. I think sometimes either might need grace, and allowing space and that grace as life necessitates, is key. And also, that communication styles match. I learned with my first agent that communication is really important to me.

“I think the essential pieces are getting a feel for each other, feeling comfortable together, and feeling like this is a nice person, and someone who not only loves your work but will champion it.” – Danna Zeiger

For others who may be setting out on the same (or a similar) journey as yours, what are some words of encouragement that you’d like to share about identity shifts and major career shifts?

Major career shifts are hard, especially when you like your previous career. I think allowing a grieving period is natural and okay–I certainly took one. For me, I felt like I didn’t have a choice. Zoom wasn’t going to change my infant’s diaper or feed him, or develop my preschooler, and my oldest child needed guidance. I think, just like in children’s books, having agency makes a big difference. Since I didn’t feel like I had a choice, it took me some time to accept the situation. Luckily, I was able to dive into homeschooling, and I really loved it.

What has saved me, though, is that at the end of the day, my overarching net emotion is that I feel grateful for these immense privileges. It is a privilege to be able to homeschool–I certainly recognize that. And, it is equally a privilege to have the opportunity to pursue this dream of becoming a children’s book author. Giving space for the grief and all of the messy feelings has also allowed me to process and find both perspective and gratitude.

So, for those setting out on major career shifts: be patient with yourself! Feel the feelings! And, follow your passions. No matter where the road ends, the journey will be fulfilling.

-Love this advice! So true!

“So, for those setting out on major career shifts: be patient with yourself! Feel the feelings! And, follow your passions. No matter where the road ends, the journey will be fulfilling.” – Danna Zeiger

You mentioned in your application how important disability awareness is for kids and gatekeepers. Could you speak more to this?

I hope kids take away from my book how to approach people with disabilities in their future—as people. Our world is rife with ableism, stereotyping, and hurtful assumptions. They can cause physical pain, even as Dr. Kathleen Friel experiences when well-meaning strangers try to grab her when they think she needs help. She has needed to go to the ER from these well-meaning strangers!

Speaking of disability awareness, I know that you have a lot of great information on this in your book. Could you tell us more about that?

Yes! The book itself shows how Dr. Friel has had to educate so many classmates, labmates, and even doctors about cerebral palsy–and how exhausting that advocacy work is. The book also makes clear how Dr. Friel is able to find her own way to do certain tasks, but also that it is often much harder for her. The back matter offers more information about all of these subjects, as well as how Dr. Friel herself is an amazing and award-winning advocate. I actually have a teacher’s guide that anyone can download.

What is your big “why” or motivation for writing for kids? What does it bring you, and what do you hope it will bring your readers?

Kids are the keys to our future world. Kids are the future. I believe that the best way to fix our world is by reaching kids and building our stronger future, today.

My lifelong mission has always been to make STEM accessible and to bring underrepresented stories to the forefront. I’ve simply shifted from doing this as a college professor to a children’s book author, and hopefully I can reach a wider audience.

We’ve touched on your writing and its inspiration, but I’d love to hear more about your homeschooling journey and the resources that you offer. Could you shed some light on this for our readers?

When COVID hit, parents everywhere were bewildered, overwhelmed, and exhausted. Truly, my youngest baby was not held, changed, or comforted by any hands other than mine and my husband’s for a year and a half!! It was rough. I quickly started trying to channel some of my college teaching into my kids and trying to think of exciting activities, experiments,and STEM projects. I posted about them on my personal social media (while I don’t always love social media today, the connection it offered during Covid was so helpful!) and started getting questions from fellow bewildered parents.

After plenty of answers, I decided to catalog our journey and share the resources with other parents, too, which ultimately became @DrZatHome.

I wanted the @DrZatHome platform specifically to be free, and even as it grew, I continued to decline any paid sponsorships. I’m glad I did! Every recommendation I made, I truly made with a whole heart. I also felt a lot of freedom to post when I wanted, and about content that I felt passionate about. And, when my writing started to pick up, I felt no qualms about pausing for a bit.

What have been some of the responses you’ve received to your books and/or homeschool resources from parents/educators/kids?

In terms of homeschool resources I’ve shared, the pandemic was a critical point where many parents felt alone and ill-equipped to suddenly entertain, educate, and occupy all of their kids’ time. I felt overwhelmed, too! Coming online and sharing my resources felt like giving and receiving virtual hugs from all parents everywhere, and the messages of appreciation (and camaraderie, and mutual overwhelm) made me emotional. Whenever anyone shared that my content helped entertain a kiddo, or better yet, that their kids learned and got excited, it really made my day.

And my book experience!! Well, this has been a heart-warming experience, to say the least, and I have witnessed how books can be both windows–as kids tell me they want to be brain researchers too, and their horror at what Kathleen has had to endure–as well as mirrors. Various kids with disabilities, including cerebral palsy, or simply identified as disability advocates, have chatted with me and bought my book at book festivals or author events.

Have you been able to attend/participate in any local in-person/virtual author events? (Schools, libraries, book stores, etc?) If so, we’d love to hear about them and see some pictures if you have them!

Yes! I’ve done quite a few! In-person, I have had:
-A bookstore launch
-Several library and school events
-A book festival
-Signings in various bookstores
-An author talk hosted by No Place for Hate, the Waquoit Congregational Church, the Jewish Congregation of Falmouth, and Eight Cousins Bookstore, and
-A panel presentation and author signing at NCTE

Book Launch – held at Hummingbird Books
IG @hummingbirdbookstore

Library Event- held at Newton Library
IG @newtonfreelibrary

NCTE Danna and Editor Carol Hinz at Lerner Booth

My book was also featured in the Closing General Session at the 2025 American Academy for Cerebral Palsy and Developmental Medicine meeting!

I also had a blog tour, thanks to the incredible kidlit community–yourself included! You can find all of my interviews on my website. What a massively supportive group of people and friends who come out in droves to cheer side-by-side! Thank you for all that you and others do!

I’ve had two podcast interviews: one was with my amazing former agent and friend, Jonathan Rosen, who now hosts two successful podcasts.

And the second was with my dear friend, Mel Rosenberg, host of New Book Network.
Both were remarkably different yet equally fun and exciting–it felt like such a virtual hug and celebration of my book!

My book has been shared by some incredible influencers, whom I admire so much: in the homeschooling, disability, science, and mom communities. I’m so grateful for their support!

My book was also shared in the Cape Cod Times and The Enterprise.

Finally, not my own promotion work, but I’m so grateful that my book has won Best of 2025 by the Chicago Public Library, Best of 2025 by School Library Journal, and Outstanding Science Trade Books for Students K–12 2025 by the National Science Teachers’ Association. So proud of and grateful for the whole team involved in creating this book!

It has been exceptionally busy!

What is something you wish you had known about publishing earlier on?

That there are no guarantees! Even having an agent does not guarantee a book deal. So the only way forward is hard work, an open mind to feedback, and excitement over the work!

“[In publishing] there are no guarantees! …The only way forward is hard work, an open mind to feedback, and excitement over the work!” – Danna Zeiger

What’s one piece of advice that you’d like to share with other writers?

Be resourceful–read lots of books, take classes, speak to people, seek feedback. It takes all the things and a lot of work!

Any final words of wisdom or something you’d like others to know?

Make sure your story is unique and adds something new. Not all well-written stories will be made into books (this goes for myself, too!) because there are soooo many manuscripts being queried, and still a lot of competition on the shelves. In order for a book to do well at each step, it simply must stand out!

Thank you so much for spending some time with us today. We truly appreciate you and all the hard work you do to make a safe and inclusive place for kids with disabilities, and the awareness you spread with your stories. And now, it’s time for a giveaway!

GIVEAWAY

For the month of December 2025, Danna is offering one prize to one winner: a picture book critique. Non-rhyme. Fiction: up to 600 words. Non-fiction: up to 800 words.

HOW TO ENTER THE GIVEAWAY

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DEADLINE TO ENTER: LAST DAY OF THE MONTH AT 11:59 PM CST.

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Before pursuing her aspirations as a children’s literature author, Danna Zeiger was a Biology Professor and Program Director for Fisher College’s Biology Program, teaching and mentoring disadvantaged and first-in-the-family students from diverse backgrounds. While homeschooling her three spirited kids, Danna established a STEM accessibility and educational resource entitled DrZatHome. Danna’s debut STEM nonfiction picture book, REWRITING THE RULES: How Dr. Kathleen Friel Created New Possibilities for Brain Research and Disability, was released this past September and has recently won Best of 2025 by the Chicago Public Library, Best of 2025 by School Library Journal, and Outstanding Science Trade Books for Students K–12 2025 by the National Science Teachers’ Association. Her unpublished novel-in-verse was recently awarded the PJ Our Way Partial Author’s Incentive Award. Danna is represented by Gaby Cabezut at The Seymour Agency. CONNECT: @home_zat (x/Twitter) @DrZatHome (IG and Bluesky) website: http://www.dannazeiger.com.

JULY 3RD, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EDUCATOR, LITERARY BLOGGER, AND CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR ANDREW HACKET, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT BLOGGER & WRITER, CHELSEA DICICCO

Posted on July 3, 2024June 26, 2024 by Chelsea’s World of Books in Feature Interview Series

Today, I’m talking with children’s book author, literary blogger, and educator Andrew Hacket.

But before we jump into our interview, if this is your first time visiting the blog, here’s the scoop on Feature Interviews.

THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?

Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.

Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.

What can these interviews offer YOU?

These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:

stay current with market trends
hook an agent or editor
find writing community & other resources
discover workshops, contests, and other events
figure out which path of publication is right for you
know if your agent is a good match

And more!

AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month! *If you’re interested in entering the giveaway, scroll to the bottom of the interview for instructions.*

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

BEGINNINGS, INSPIRATION, AND EDUCATION

How did you end up in the amazing world of kidlit publishing?
My path to kidlit stemmed from a childhood creativity that lingered into adulthood. I had always liked the idea of writing, and dabbled here and there, but never had the time or energy to fully explore how to make this dream a reality.

Fast Forward to 2020 and the world was closing down. My 3 young children were going to be home learning from a computer screen, and someone had to be with them. As a result, I left my job as a teacher for the year and stayed home to support my children and their learning. What I quickly discovered was that while I was fulfilling an incredibly important role and need in my children’s lives, I was extremely, mentally, unstimulated. I was used to the fast-paced, mind constantly whirring life of a teacher, and this sudden stillness and calm in my brain was unsettling and not for me. So, with this new mental capacity, I dove headfirst into the publishing waters, listening to every webinar and podcast I could find, embracing the Twitter kidlit community, joining in with contests, and building my network of writing friends.

Outside of your work as a writer, I know you’re also a literary blogger and elementary school educator of 18+ years. Which is incredible! Can you share more about that, and how those things connect to your writing career?

Working with children is all I have ever done. I began in afterschool programs and summer camps, before doing daycare and moving into my career as a teacher. Having spent so much time with kids (and conveniently my target audience) over the years has helped me maintain a childlike outlook on the world and be in tune with how kids think and what they like. Teaching has also given me a depth of knowledge when it comes to picture books. Reading picture books is embedded in my job and has helped me learn about structure and pacing.My blog is a constant source of inspiration as well. Hearing others’ stories of publication and creativity feed my own creative spirit and motivate me to continue writing. And in addition to all of that wonderfulness, interviewing authors keeps me connected to my community and can often open my eyes to new publishers or editors I had not previously known about.

Let’s talk a little bit about writing inspiration. I want to touch on a few lines from your bio because I loved them (and related to them) so much!

Andrew recognizes that being a kid is hard and he writes to create ways for children to see themselves in stories and characters, to accept and overcome their insecurities, or to escape for just a little while through the power of their imaginations.

-I just love this!

So, it’s obvious you care a lot about children and their world, emotionally and mentally. Which, being a teacher and children’s book writer, only makes sense. Can you share a little more about where this connection to kids really started? What motivated you to want to dedicate your life toward bettering the lives of young readers, and students?

I like to tell students that I am a kid at heart. I have a healthy dose of Peter Pan syndrome and always have. Some kids are excited to grow up and do all of the things they think make being an adult awesome. I never was and I think that is a large reason I work with kids. Their energy keeps me young and connected to my inner child. I have worked with children since I was 16. I began at an afterschool program which then led into summer camps and daycares. What I discovered early on was that not only did I enjoy being with kids, but I was really adept at connecting with their emotions and understanding their wants, needs, and motivations behind their actions. This set me on the path to being a teacher and I have not regretted that choice ever.

“I have a healthy dose of Peter Pan syndrome and always have. Some kids are excited to grow up and do all of the things they think make being an adult awesome. I never was and I think that is a large reason I work with kids.”

As an educator, I imagine you want to engage your readers on an emotional level and impart some educational messages as well. Can you tell us a little bit about what lessons you hope little readers (and bigger readers) can gain from your books?

My three books vary widely in topic, tone, and structure, but each one has a strong SEL connection that I think comes from my years as an educator and also my own struggles growing up. Every child wants to feel a sense of belonging, and I think at some point, every person struggles with this despite how an outside perspective might perceive it. I hope my books help young readers feel seen and can push them on the path of accepting themselves and others for who they are at that moment.

Speaking of books… I know you write across genres in kidlit: picture books, early readers, poems, and middle grade. I love talking with people who have a range of writing experience because each genre carries its own set of rules. I’m curious to know, for our readers and myself, how you balance these rules and keep your genres separated while writing? And have there been times when you’ve started, say, a picture book, that eventually “told you” it wasn’t meant to be a picture book and instead turned into something else- like an early reader or a middle-grade novel?

This is such a wonderful question. Overall, I don’t often focus too hard on “the rules”. That being said, I do think a fair amount of those rules become ingrained in our minds from when we were younger readers and perhaps the writing was a bit more formulaic.

For the majority of my writing, I approach it with the intent of creating picture books. I do try to be mindful of a smaller word count and most of all make sure I am leaving room for the art. Being on the other side of publication now, I can attest to the incredible ability illustrators have to bring our words to life while enhancing our stories in ways we could have never imagined. Leaving room for the illustrator is not only polite to the illustrator but a future gift to yourself when you get to open the pages of the book and see their creativity.

I have never made a choice to switch a genre of a WIP while working on it, but I have had the suggestion made to me by critique partners, my agent, and editors. I have a few manuscripts written with an older voice and the suggestion of MG has been tossed my way, but at this moment, I am just not ready to tackle that many words.

Another time a suggestion was made was for Curlilocks and the Three Hares. This was subbed as a picture book manuscript and the marvelous, Michele McAvoy at The Little Press had a vision for it as an early reader in their Modern Fairy-Tale Series. After chatting with Michele and hearing more about the series I decided to give it a go and luckily, it did the trick and Curlilocks and the Three Hares with illustrations by Svetla Radivoeva is now out in the world for kids and families to enjoy!

THE WORLD OF PUBLISHING PRE-PUBLISHED – AGENTS, QUERYING, SUBMISSIONS, RESOURCES

Tell us about your pre-publication journey! Starting back at query trenches/early submissions. When did you begin your professional journey?

I began approaching my writing seriously in 2020. COVID had just hit, and I found myself on leave from work, parenting three young kids who were doing remote schooling. While this was a crazy time and incredibly busy in its own right, I discovered that not being in the classroom gave me the mental capacity I had been lacking to research the writing industry and start to put the legwork into learning the craft and business of publishing.

I began with Twitter kidlit contests which is where I met so many wonderful critique partners and learned so much about myself as a writer and what I wanted to say. It was through these contests that I discovered my voice.

My time in the query trenches was short. I queried one story, which sadly has yet to make it to the published page, to about 15 agents with no bites. Then, my current agent, Dan Cramer, posted a query critique giveaway opportunity that I happened to win. I sent Dan my query and was delighted when along with his feedback, he also offered to read the manuscript. I sent that story off as quickly as I could and was amazed to hear back from Dan with an offer of representation.

While I know my experience was brief and not typical, I always encourage authors to take any and every opportunity for which they have the bandwidth. You can’t count on an experience like this happening, but if you don’t put yourself out there, you are ensuring it doesn’t happen.

-Yes. So true!

“I always encourage authors to take any and every opportunity for which they have the bandwidth… if you don’t put yourself out there, you are ensuring it doesn’t happen.”

Are you currently agented and were you currently agented for your first book deal?

Yes, I am currently agented. Dan Cramer of Page Turner Literary is still my agent, and we have been partnered together for all three of my book sales.

What was your agent experience like for that first book deal? And which book was it?

The first book deal with Dan was wonderful. We sold Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea to Page Street Kids. At that time I was such a newbie, and Dan made me feel at ease asking ALL of the questions. He took time to answer them and walked me through the process in a way that helped me understand this new and foreign side of publishing that I knew absolutely nothing about.

Dan has been my one and only agent. As my agent he researches publishing houses and editors in search of the perfect match for my manuscripts. He handles all negotiations related to our book deals and deals with the communication with the editor at the beginning of the process.

Were there any resources (writing organizations, contests, communities, etc) that were especially helpful in getting you to where you are today, that you’d like to share with aspiring traditional, hybrid, or independent kidlit authors or illustrators reading today?

Fall Writing Frenzy, Vivian Kirkfield’s 50 Precious Words, and Halloweensie are the contests that introduced me to the kidlit community and it is through them that I found a sense of belonging in this industry.

I did join SCBWI early on as well and while I was not the best at accessing all they had to offer, I was able to connect with 2 of my first critique groups as a result.

Also helpful to me along the way were fast drafting events such as First Draft Friday with Hollie Wolverton and Mindy Alyse Weiss’ PBParty Critique Train. Both of these events help motivate me to get new words on the page which can be hard to do with a fulltime job and family.

-Fantastic resources, Andrew. Thanks for sharing!

THE WORLD OF PUBLISHING-POST PUBLISHED- BOOK DEALS, AUTHOR EVENTS, PROMOTION, CONNECTIONS

From the time you started pursuing publication, about how long was your journey to your first published work- and how did that feel?

It was a four year process from my first draft of my first book until its publication. And while four years is no short time, I completely recognize the years and years that many creators invest before finding the success they are looking for and I feel incredibly fortunate for where I am today.

We're so glad you are where you are today too, Andrew!

For some of our ones just starting to enter this arena, and could use some tips on where to start... could you share some details about your author visits?
What activities do you provide- if any other than a basic read-aloud?
What kind of visits to you offer- virtual, in person, or both?
About how long is your average visit?
What venues do you visit- bookstores/schools/libraries?
And who schedules the visits- do you contact places directly, do they contact you directly, or is this something handled by your publisher/agent?

With three books releasing this past spring I made a concerted effort starting back in the summer and fall of 2023 to begin lining up author visits.

-Smart planning and foresight!

For the most part these have all been organized by me through contacting bookstores, libraries, and schools. There are some publishing houses who will support and assist in booking events, I just happened to choose to take the responsibility on myself.

Bookstore and library visits often last 45 minutes to an hour and include an introduction to the book, reading, a craft/related activity, and then conclude with a signing. My best advice here is to have existing relationships with these places. Long before you have a book out be a patron of your local libraries and indie bookstores. Support events that they have and learn what they have to offer as a result of attending. It is always easier for someone to book you for an event when they have seen you be supportive of others.

My offerings for school visits are a bit different. I book anything from single workshops to half days to whole days, and these can all be virtual or in person.

On my website I have a menu of workshop offerings that a school can choose from. These range from a traditional journey to publication to hands-on workshops on a variety of topics including brainstorming, fairytale writing, poetry, and character design.

-I love the range in variety. What a great way to accommodate different needs and interests.

I prefer to work with groups of one to two classes where we can be interactive and create together rather than them just listening to me.

Being a debut author this year, I found more success in booking author visits when I approached schools with whom I already had a relationship. I also applied and received multiple Cultural Council grants which helped fund a number of local visits.

-What a great idea!

Okay, so what’s your favorite part of the visit and why?

My favorite part of school visits is seeing students become inspired! It is the most amazing feeling to know that your presence and your words have sparked creativity and enthusiasm in them. As authors we know that jolt of excitement we get with a shiny new idea and it's such a privilege to be able to create that for kids.

The other part I love about school visits is being able to reach such a large number of kids in such a short amount of time. I'm used to having an impact on my class of 24 second-graders. This spring alone I've met 100s of kids in K-5 from all sorts of diverse backgrounds.

-Love this!

“My favorite part of school visits is seeing students become inspired! …As authors we know that jolt of excitement we get with a shiny new idea and it’s such a privilege to be able to create that for kids.”

Let’s talk a little about promotion. For newly debuting authors who may not yet have an author and/or illustrator platform built for themselves… where do you recommend starting? Do you have any tips on making connections in the kidlit community as well as your local community?

My biggest advice here is if you go into this industry with altruistic intentions you will receive way more than you bargained for in return. Make connections with creators, support their work, and offer to help each other, but do it all for the sake of connecting on a genuine level with another creator with no expectations of anything in return.

I recommend starting locally. Make a habit of attending author events at your local bookstore and library. Introduce yourself to the workers and guests (I know it feels scary!). Be open that you are an author. You will begin building relationships with these people and before you know it they will be calling you by name. Then when it is your time for books to come out, they will be excited to celebrate with you and support you in any way they can.

-This is such great advice. Yes!

For authors or illustrators who may be early on in their publishing journey… what words of encouragement would you like to share?

If you haven’t heard already, this industry moves at a glacial pace and there is no way to do it (that I have found) without a healthy heaping of rejection. Enter this path knowing these two facts and make choices that make the journey enjoyable. This includes finding your people who uplift and support you as well as learning how you best tackle the highs and lows associated with this career.

“…if you go into this industry with altruistic intentions you will receive way more than you bargained for in return. Make connections with creators, support their work, and offer to help each other, but do it all for the sake of connecting on a genuine level with another creator with no expectations of anything in return.”

“Make a habit of attending author events at your local bookstore and library. Introduce yourself to the workers and guests… Be open that you are an author. You will begin building relationships with these people… Then when it is your time for books to come out, they will be excited to celebrate with you and support you in any way they can.”

BOOKS + RESOURCES + FINAL WORDS OF WISDOM

Okay, we’ve arrived at arguably my favorite part of the interview… and that’s the part where we talk books! I’d love to hear about your stories. What was the inspiration for them? What are your favorite spreads/illustrations and what do you love most about them? And maybe hear a brief description of what each book is about.

Gush over my book babies? I’d love to! I am so fortunate to have had three books release this year and I love each one and am grateful for the editors, illustrators and countless others behind the scenes that helped bring them to life.

My first book, OLLIE, THE ACORN, AND THE MIGHTY IDEA (Pagestreet Kids) with illustrations by Kaz Windness follows amateur gardener, Ollie Alexander Kandersteen, a boy with a name bigger than he is, as he goes on an absurd and fantastical journey to be as big as a tree in order to stand up to his bully, Everett Lucas Montgomery. Ollie was inspired by my own feelings of smallness as a child, coupled with a summertime discussion with my children about the consequences of swallowing a watermelon seed. I love Ollie because it is a read-aloud through and through. There are refrains for kids to join in with, onomatopoeia, and unexpected antics that cause readers’ mouths to hit the floor.

Ollie has had a quiet reception in the kidlit world, but I am hoping to spread the word to teachers, parents, and librarians to get this humorous book, with a healthy heaping of SEL and messages of acceptance, into as many hands as possible.

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My second book, CURLILOCKS AND THE THREE HARES (The Little Press) with illustrations by Jan Dolby follows are title character as she ventures into the Three Hares hair salon in order to take her hair into her own hands and find her just right do’ before picture day. As you can imagine, messes and mistakes ensue before our 3 hares return to find their intruder and her unruly hair. Curlilocks was inspired by my daughter and her dislike for her curls when she was younger. This story is an early, illustrated, chapter book just right for beginning readers to grow their skills and independence.

Last up is HOPE AND THE SEA (WorthyKids) with illustrations by Svetla Radivoeva. This story follows a young girl, Hope, who is having big feelings of loneliness at the beach. It doesn’t take long for Sea to notice and extend a wave and a welcoming embrace to help Hope on her way to finding friendship and belonging. This story is sweet and lyrical with sentence structure and rhythm to match the changing tide. I grew up by the ocean, and my love for the sea poured into this manuscript.

Any new books and/or book deals on the horizon?

Yes! On July 9, the spooky middle-grade anthology, THE HAUNTED STATES OF AMERICA will be released from Godwin Books. This is a collection of 52 haunted short stories with one from each state, D.C., and Puerto Rico. In collaboration with SCBWI, Godwin Books put out a call for stories. I am honored to have my story, The Tunnel, included in the anthology representing Massachusetts. 

In addition, I do have some secret news about a future publication. However, it is much too soon to discuss any details, so readers will need to stay tuned. 

-Did you hear that readers? If you don’t wanna miss out… you should probably *ahem* subscribe to Andrew’s newsletter HERE…  (find email subscription box at the bottom of the page at the link listed).

Okay, so I’ll start by saying that I love, love, love your website. I could get lost all day in the fun educational things you have going on over there. For our readers who may not know (yet) about all the resources you have… could you enlighten us to what you offer on the Educator Resources tab?

*Snippet of Andrew's offerings below...*

Thank you for the kind words about my website. I created it a few years ago using Wix, and then I hired the incredible Molly Ippy, to spruce up the design to make it more professional and cohesive, which she nailed. I cannot recommend her services enough, so if you are in need of a website facelift or educational resources don’t hesitate in reaching out to Molly.
Check out her offerings HERE.

Many of the resources on my website come from my years of teaching and designing curriculum. Much of it is science and engineering based and gives educators a starting place to get their students creating and engaging with science in a hands-on manner.

I do have resources for some of my published books and those will be found under the books tab on my website.

-Download Andrew's FREE educational guide and coloring page for Curlilocks and the Three Hares and/or activity page for Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea on Teacher Corner TODAY!-

Speaking of resources… you don’t just have resources for parents, kids, and educators… you also offer resources for writers, in way of your literary blog, where, just like I’m doing today- you host fellow authors on your blog and talk about the “behind the scenes.” When did you start doing this? And what do you hope readers will gain?

I began The Backstory in 2021. It felt like authors who were gaining traction in the industry had a writing-related side gig going on. I don’t think this is necessarily true, but at that time that was my perspective. When I sat down to brainstorm what I could offer the writing community I landed on my love of learning the inspiration behind things.

-I can definitely relate to that love!

At first my intention was to provide fledgling authors a place to learn about the process and the opportunity to win critiques and AMA calls from published authors. What I didn’t realize at the time was the service I was providing for those published authors of being part of their marketing and promotion.

-Right?! It's so exciting to be a part of that!

Running the blog has provided me a tremendous amount of inspiration and has helped me build my relationships and connections with other authors.

I hope readers can glean little tidbits of knowledge that either encourage, educate, and inspire them along their path to publication.

- I completely echo this. It's so inspiring to talk with other creatives. The interchange of encouragement by way of shared experiences is indescribably valuable. And the connections made are so rewarding.

Any final words of wisdom that you’d like to share with our readers today?

I know this is not new advice, but it is a tidbit I come back to often. When you sit down to write, write for yourself. Don’t stress over rules. Don’t stress over the market. Don’t stress trying to write the manuscript you think your dream agent is looking for. Doing any or all of these things will lead you astray from who YOU are as a writer. Don’t lose yourself for someone else’s vision. Write authentically who you are in your voice. When your book gets made you will be so grateful that you represented your true self!

Such beautiful advice to end on. Thank you so much for joining us today, Andrew.

“When you sit down to write, write for yourself. Don’t stress over rules. Don’t stress over the market… Don’t lose yourself for someone else’s vision. Write authentically who you are in your voice. When your book gets made you will be so grateful that you represented your true self!”

And now…
It’s time for the GIVEAWAY!

For the month of July, Andrew Hacket is offering the following giveaway prizes to three winners- 1 prize awarded to each winner.

Fiction, picture book (non rhyming) manuscript critique
30-minute Zoom AMA
Signed copy of one of my books (winner’s choice)

HOW TO ENTER THE GIVEAWAY

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Andrew Hacket is the author of Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea (Page Street Kids, 4/9/24), Curlilocks and the Three Hares (The Little Press, 5/1/24), and Hope and the Sea (Worthy Kids, 5/28/24). Andrew recognizes that being a kid is hard, and he writes to create ways for children to see themselves in stories and characters, to accept and overcome their insecurities, or to escape for just a little while through the power of their imaginations. He and his family live in Massachusetts.

FEBRUARY 7TH, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH BILINGUAL, NEURODIVERSE CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR AND ASSISTANT LITERARY AGENT RACHEL S. HOBBS, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER, & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

Posted on February 7, 2024January 25, 2025 by Chelsea’s World of Books in Feature Interview Series, View all blog posts

Oh my goodness, guys. I don’t know about you, but my January was a roller coaster. It somehow felt like it lasted forever because SO MANY THINGS happened, yet it flew by at the same time. Do you ever have crazy months like that? One second, you’re slugging along, and then BAM. BAM. BAM. Things happen out of nowhere, and FAST! Well, that’s how it was for me. And I’m so happy to be here with you again as we begin a new month together in February. This month, I have a pretty spectacular lineup of guests for you. Today’s guest is particularly special, as she and I have many common shared experiences, which you’ll learn more about here shortly.

But, before I get into the interview portion, I first want to address anyone who may be visiting today for the first time. Welcome! I’m so glad you’re here. Why? Because it means that you are interested in learning. And as we publishing warriors all know- the only way to be successful in this industry is to continue learning. And when I said warriors before, don’t mistake this for a battlefield- it’s not really so much that it’s a fight, although sometimes it can feel that way, but really, what I mean by “warriors” is that publishing requires a tenacity. A determination. A hunger. And as warriors must do, you too must “soldier on.” It’s the only way. And for me personally, I’ve found the greatest way to be able to do this is to share the journey with others who are just as tenacious, determined, and hungry for it. Okay- that’s all nice, but what does this little speech have to do with you being here on my blog today? Well, here is a brief overview of what feature interviews are all about and why they’re so important.

WHAT’S SO GREAT ABOUT FEATURE INTERVIEWS?

Feature Interviews are an INVALUABLE resource for kidlit writers and illustrators at every stage of their publishing journey. Not only are they a great way to stay current on market trends and learn more about the industry’s ins and outs, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publication from the perspectives of a diverse collection of creators.

Every month, I sit down with members of the writing community (authors, illustrators, editors, and agents), and we discuss all things kidlit publishing.

Here are a few examples of topics:

Writing workshops and resources
Diversity in literature and why it matters
Where to find support and community
How to improve writing craft and set goals
How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
Querying agents, contract negotiations, book deals, and time frames
And, of course- NEW BOOKS!

And now that you have an idea of what I’ve promised- it’s time to deliver. So, let’s get into our feature interview!

Rachel S. Hobbs

Rachel S. Hobbs was born in the US to a Californian father and an Argentine immigrant mother. She grew up with a love of languages and music and received her Bachelor of Arts in Spanish with a minor in music. She works part-time as a literary agent’s assistant and has worked as a children’s educator. She enjoys volunteering and working with children, and in her spare time, you can find her braiding hair at festivals, playing the flute in a band, crocheting, reading, and playing games. She lives in Monterey, CA, with her husband and three kids. Tango Red Riding Hood is her first book, published by Gnome Road Publishing on September 12, 2023.

HOW IT ALL BEGAN

Rachel, it’s so nice to have you visiting on Chelsea’s World of Books blog today. I’m really looking forward to our chat today and getting to share more about our mutually diverse backgrounds. But before we dig into that area, I’d love to hear all about how you got your start in publishing. Can you tell us how it all began? Which came first, the chicken or the egg (the chicken and the egg being “kidlit author” and “literary agent assistant”)?

Great question! I started writing seriously in 2005. I realized during my research and critique group experiences that working in children’s publishing was exactly what I wanted, but I thought it was too late. Let’s cut to 2020 when my first article was published; 2021, when I got my first book deal and my internship at a literary agency; then 2022, when I got my agent’s assistant job; then 2023, when my first book was published! So, the two roles have danced around each other for quite some time.

BEHIND THE AGENT DESK: QUERIES, TRENDS & PET PEEVES

Since you work as both a children’s book author and a literary agent’s assistant, I thought we could take those questions in two sections. Let’s start with “behind the agent’s desk.” Can you walk us through what being a literary agent’s assistant is like?

There is no quick answer! Basically, it’s amazing, and I love it. It’s very busy and fast-paced, even though if you look at any one particular deal, publishing seems so slow. There are many different types of tasks to accomplish, and you have to juggle them all and reprioritize all the time.

What agent/agency do you work for, and what kind of books do they represent?

I do contract work for Writers House since I’m only part-time and work remotely (the agent I work for has a full-time assistant). I’m lucky to be at such an amazing place with wide resources, surrounded by incredibly talented people. Every type of book that I can think of is represented there.

Are you currently taking clients of your own? If not, do you plan to in the near or distant future? If so, what kind of books (genres) will you look to acquire for your list?

I do contract work, so I’m not in a position to take on clients myself. Even down the line, though, I still will only be interested in children’s books.

Let’s talk trends. Have you noticed any trends that editors and publishing houses are looking for and are not looking for right now?

That is such a hard question, and this might not be a favorable answer, but different editors look for different things! I still see tender, thought-provoking stories, but also very fun, non-serious books. What is hard for an author, I think, is that you wouldn’t know that a publishing house is currently working on a story just like yours, and even though they like your story, it can’t work for that house. So, you really can’t assume the reason why your story was rejected. Also, an editor may have done a bunch of poetry and is ready for something different. If you want to see what publishing houses are acquiring right now, then Publisher’s Marketplace can be helpful. It is uncanny, though, to see waves of submissions for similar sounding manuscripts without people meaning to write on similar topics. I personally don’t think any trend is predictable.

What kinds of stories do you enjoy reading most? Any quirky favorites/guilty pleasures?

I love being shocked by a picture book that, in retrospect, makes me wonder how that was never done before. A recent example of something unexpected was Jon Klassen’s The Skull. I also love picture books that make me want to rip out the pages to frame every single one because of how much I love the art, like Lane Smith’s A Gift for Nana. I treasure humorous picture books whose endings land so well, like Mac Barnett and Marla Frazee’s The Great Zapfino. I love listening to YA audiobooks, usually of the fantasy/sci-fi sort. I absolutely loved Divine Rivals by Rebecca Ross. I can’t recommend it enough. I like graphic novels…I could go on and on!

What are some big querying pet peeves?

All opinions are my own and are not representative of anyone I work for or with. I personally don’t make decisions on query letters. However, here are things that stand out to me unfavorably: when query letters state that their book is the next NYT best seller, or that their family or students love the manuscript; huge or really tiny font size; no name listed (nor is it guessable by the email address); reading a query letter written “by” the animal protagonist of the manuscript; saying no one has ever written about [insert topic] before (note: look for ways your story might fit alongside other stories and use those as comps, then point out how yours is different); saying this is your first book (that doesn’t need to be said) or that you just wrote it.

In your opinion, what hooks an agent?

To be honest, it’s different from agent to agent. I recommend reading manuscript wishlists and seeing what deals were made by that particular agent. (See Publishers Marketplace.) I have found good information by attending conferences, hearing agents speak, and reading their faculty bios. And even if I can’t personally attend a conference, I appreciate learning about agents from friends.

When I’m writing a query letter, I absolutely have critique partners read my pitches. Some people are really great with witty wordings that make your pitch sound snappy and exciting. I think book comps also show you know the industry well and you’ve done your homework.

Once an agent makes an offer of representation, what are the next steps? Walk us through the process. (Typical timeframe- how many manuscripts do you send out on submission- can you send more than one at a time at once- to how many houses? Etc.)

I don’t send anything out myself. I think it’s common, though, to submit to several editors, although if two are at the same house but at different imprints, they might not be able to both extend offers. It seems that usually, one manuscript is sent out per query, but a deal can be made for more than one manuscript. I don’t have a lot of experience in this area.

What is the process for a current client sending new work to their agent? Are they able to reach out directly and let you know they have new work they’d like you to consider, or is the agent responsible for checking in within a certain amount of time to see what new projects their client is working on? Explain.

I don’t work directly with any client, but I know the first one to be true, and I’m not sure about the second one.

CONTRACTS, MONEY & EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN

I know a lot of writers are curious to know about how they and their agent’s both get paid. Can you tell us a little bit about how that works?

The agent takes a 15% commission. The publishing house typically sends the payment to the literary agency, and the literary agency pays the author.

Does the agency you work for offer a standard contract for each client, or do you customize each contract to fit the needs of your individual client?

I know there are boilerplates, but I don’t know the specific answer to your question.

Can you tell us a little bit about some of the things an agent does to aid an author or illustrator in the process of negotiating contracts on their behalf with publishing houses?

An agent will not only look for a good advance but how many slivers the payout is in (fewer slivers mean larger fractions of the advance paid out at a time and preferably not spread to multiple payments after publication). Also, the competitive works clause is crafted so as to not prevent an author from publishing other books. An agent will try to get bonus payments (in case of awards and such) and escalators (higher percentages earned after a certain amount of books are sold). There are more details for sure, but this info is broken down for the author to compare so they can speak to their preference.

What are some of the things you specifically look for in negotiating a fair contract where both your client and the publishing house are happy?

I don’t participate in this aspect, but it’s always great to hear that an author gets to work with someone they really click with who is just as passionate about their work as they are. I think when both parties feel like winners, it’s something to celebrate!

About how many clients, on average, does your agency take on every year?

I don’t know—there are 28 agents at Writers House, and some are more established than others who have recently begun taking on their own clients.

Does your agency represent authors and illustrators? Or just authors?

Authors, illustrators, and author/illustrators.

BEHIND THE AUTHOR DESK

Okay, we’ve gotten through the agent questions. Now for our author questions. Can you tell us about a day in the life as a kidlit writer?

I can’t tell you about ANY kidlit writer’s day, but I can tell you about mine! I work in the morning and then work a little bit on my writing, then go to the gym and try to work more on my writing if I can do it on a stationary bike. This might include reading craft books as well. I have family obligations that need urgent attention, and my own health works against me at times, so sometimes I get more done than at other times. I am frequently behind on my goals, emails, and other obligations. It’s hard not to feel like a failure every single day, especially when I compare myself to what I see on “the outside” from other authors. I try to extend grace to myself and give it a shot the next day., At the end of each day, I listen to audiobooks, usually YA.

What kind of children’s literature do you write?

Picture book manuscripts and I’m currently adapting one to middle grade and one to a chapter book. Wish me luck!

And favorite topics to write about?

I love fantastical things and I also love writing from my life, and I usually put the two together. I enjoy sharing aspects of my Argentine culture and also insecurities/challenges that I have experienced (and still do!).

Where do find your inspiration to write children’s literature?

My childhood, my culture, the kids I have worked with, and the things I read.

How do you keep that spark going while balancing your other obligations?

I have ADHD and can’t focus almost at all. My mind has always wandered and still does, but it leads me to many interesting creative avenues, so I’m always building something new in my head. I can also be productive while letting my mind wander—while I’m shelving books at the library where I volunteer, or while I’m braiding hair at the festivals I work at, or while doing chores.

What is your favorite part about being a children’s book author? And is it something you’ve always known you wanted? Or did you discover your passion for writing later in life?

I’ve always told stories and wanted to tell stories. I only admitted out loud that I wanted to be a children’s book author in 1999 because I was so embarrassed to say it, feeling the imposter syndrome so badly. The best thing about being published is knowing a kid that I may not have met or ever will meet can have a story that I wrote and cherish in their hands and that they can see themselves in what I shared.

Speaking of stories… we’d love to hear all about TANGO RED RIDING HOOD and how it came about. Can you share the story behind the story?

Sure! I was listening to a YA audiobook in 2020, and when the main character walks into a ball and gets swept into a dance by “the guy,” I found myself wishing it would be tango, and it wasn’t. I reflected on my love for tango, how much I appreciated growing up listening to tango and wishing other kids could listen to it to. The verses that I wrote, following the rhythm to El Choclo, came first, and then the retelling formed around that.

What was your publication/submission journey like for that book?

I submitted it to several agents, but only a couple were interested. They asked for more work but turned me down. I participated in a Twitter (at the time) pitch, and Sandra at Gnome Road Publishing invited me to submit. I got an R&R and worked on the manuscript some more, then sent it back and got an offer on April 1, 2021.

Do you have any favorite illustrations from the story? If so, which ones and why? Feel free to share some pictures of your favorite spreads!

This is impossible to answer because I am madly, deeply, over-the-top in love with Carolina Vásquez’s illustrations. That is no exaggeration! The least expected page would probably be the one where Moni’s feet are zoomed in, and the text says, “I must hurry to la casa de mi Abuela."

The muted background of the mountains and forest with the vibrant foreground focusing on her feet gives a sense of urgency while feeling that the distance might be too great. But this young, innocent heart will try anyway to make it safely to her grandmother’s house. There is so much feeling in that page spread, and I think it’s beautiful.

Of course, I also love the page where Lobo’s tongue is dripping in such an alarming way (!), also where you see the bandoneón for the first time, the page spread with Lobo playing music, Moni dancing, and the music notes on top, the scene (SPOILER) of Abuela’s arms extended, the scene of them looking at a dictionary together, and the old tango records. I know this is too many!

I can’t blame you. If I were on the receiving end of this question, I would have difficulty choosing just one, too. They’re all fantastic!

DIVERSITY IN LITERATURE AND WHY IT’S SO IMPORTANT

I was *SO* excited reading over your application. Not just because your work is terrific- which it IS- but also because I have a lot of mutually shared experiences with you. Being neurodiverse myself (ADHD), dealing with multiple mental health struggles such as anxiety and depression, and also coming from a Latin background, your experiences resonated with me on a lot of levels. So, I was thrilled to get the opportunity to share a conversation with, in a way, a kindred spirit. And, of course, I was happy dancing at the thought of chatting with you about your book, TANGO RED RIDING HOOD. For those of you who haven’t read it, imagine DORA THE EXPLORER meets LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD (but with more music and movement).

A Latin twist on a beloved fairytale classic? Fun bilingual language? Yummy foods? Music and dance? YES PLEASE! Can you share how you first got the idea for writing this story?

I mentioned above how the idea began. But what it boiled down to was: I grew up with a culture my peers did not. There were some things we did at home (like listening to tango music) that no one else around me did. But I was passionate about these things that I didn’t know how to share. So, by 2020, I was ready to share that experience with kids and help them feel what I felt through means that would already be familiar to them. And for kids who read it who share some of my background, this would be a way to be seen.

Let’s talk more about Tango Red Riding Hood. First off, it’s such a joyful book and so much fun to read. I love how you wove so much culture into every detail of this story… and how you skillfully used family, music, food, and dance as a universal common ground to engage readers. And, to top it off, you added an educational angle to your story by creating bilingual text. You can really feel the personal touch and heart in this book. Coming from the cultural side, can you tell us what this story means to you?

This story is the most personal one I’ve written because it encompassed so much about me personally, even though it seems like just a retelling! I had to learn Spanish through high school and college because my mom didn’t teach me directly. She was learning English as I was growing up. I understood her Spanish but could not speak it back. When I started learning, I made many mistakes, and even as an adult, I made an embarrassing mistake that made another adult laugh! I wanted to embrace the fact that even if you come from a culture, that doesn’t mean you know everything about it, including the language! In TANGO RED RIDING HOOD, Moni clearly is Argentine but has to learn Spanish. That’s more common about Latin Americans in the US than you might think. I loved that the illustrator is Argentine herself, and she added so many Argentine touches that I didn’t even have references to, like the tea “mate” and the other pastry, “media lunas.” She made the bottom half of the hoodie into a poncho and much more! I cried when I saw those elements and when I saw Abuela. She reminds me of my mom. I wonder what it would have been like to have a book I could have shared with my friends. Maybe I wouldn’t have had to feel like parts of myself were left at home.

Have you been able to host any author events with this story?

I had one school visit and three author events at bookstores (and then took a respite). I was most nervous about singing the verses out loud! I love singing, but I feel more comfortable in an ensemble, not as a soloist. I had to practice a lot, make sure I started on the right pitch so I didn’t have to sing too high, and just pump myself up for it! I had a great time, though, and hope to get back to it.

How fun! And I just love the pictures.

What kind of response have you received from this book from your readers?

An older lady I didn’t know at my first event pulled my husband aside before leaving to tell him to pass along a message to me about how special this book was for her. She is originally from Argentina and had never seen a book like this. My husband was in tears relaying this message to me, and I could feel love from both of them.

My family has happily shared my book with others, and it makes me feel proud that they can share a piece of themselves through this book, too. One parent on Instagram said how happy they were to share this book with their young daughter, who will get to have a piece of her culture to look at as well (she is also half-Argentine).

My niece was so excited at one of my readings, and my brother says she asks him to read it again and again.

One of the best experiences I had was at the elementary school, where I was reading it to each class. Due to a fluke, one boy heard it twice, and right before I sang the first verse for his second time hearing it, he said out loud to the kids around him, “This is my favorite part!”

Oh my gosh- I love these experiences. So beautiful. Thank you for sharing them with us. It made my day- and hopefully, someone else’s too!

What do you hope to bring readers with Tango Red Riding Hood?

I hope I bring music and dance into people’s lives, maybe in a way they hadn’t previously experienced. I hope I bring bravery—the idea that taking a chance (like learning a new language) is always better than staying inside a small, comfortable bubble. I hope I bring a viewpoint into a culture, and I hope I bring laughter.

I really love seeing stories (especially children’s books) that are inclusive of diverse cultures and characters. When we incorporate a variety of children and backgrounds into books, it not only gives children from those cultures confidence but it allows for more understanding, empathy, compassion, and awareness of each of our differences. And books that celebrate cultural differences are SO important! Can you share your thoughts on diversity in literature and why it’s so important?

You already said it so perfectly! Grace Lin was a keynote speaker at a conference I went to in 2017 (SCBWI California North/Central Spring Spirit Conference), and she said part of her presentation was included in her TED talk about mirrors and windows. I highly recommend watching it on YouTube! (Search for Grace Lin windows and mirrors.) Her speech was so impactful to me that it changed the way I wrote. I hadn’t ever really considered bringing my cultural background into my stories like that. I was still seeing my culture as an “other” in my life, not as something I could wholly embrace in this way.

I think my writing has improved because of that mindset shift, and clearly this was my first book that sold! It feels amazing seeing that my life experiences can be an asset to my storytelling, not as something to set aside. I think it’s important as an author to feel free to be themselves while writing and for a child to see themselves while reading.

I also think it’s hugely important for a child to not see themselves exactly but be able to connect with the story anyway because of universal truths. Some kids grow up in a very homogenous town. Unless they can peek into the lives of others around the world, they won’t understand global issues when they are older, nor know how to relate to anyone else. This was very obvious to me as soon as I left home for college, and I felt like I had to “educate” people around me who hadn’t been exposed to other cultures. Adults still need to be aware of each other: look to see what you’ve been reading. Are they written by people who are only just like you?

Yes. There’s so much truth in what you’re saying, and I completely agree. While we’re on the topic of inclusive books, let’s talk about some other forms of diversity.

OVERCOMING CHALLENGES AND EMBRACING UNIQUE ABILITIES

Mental diversity and disabilities can be a sensitive topic. And they can present their own set of challenges. Can you share a little bit about your personal experiences (related or unrelated to publishing) dealing with learning disabilities and mental health struggles?

I grew up thinking I was “stupid.” That’s what I would repeatedly call myself. I knew I couldn’t understand things as quickly as my peers, if at all. I didn’t test well, and I was behind. I remember in high school leaving a group in class as a senior and just crying because I didn’t understand any of the science terminology they were using or the numbers or how they got them. I was in such despair. I thought I might as well have been stranded alone on a deserted island, that’s how alone I felt.

By my sophomore year in college, I went to a center for students with disabilities to be tested. That led me to having an unspecified learning disability and ADHD diagnosis, which also led me to accommodations. Looking at the results was shocking—it turns out I wasn’t “stupid.” I was actually bright, but my disabilities would have always clouded that over for me if I hadn’t been tested.

I now know what I need. I need more time than other people, and I’m pretty comfortable asking for it. It also means that when I learn a new task, you’ll have to teach me over and over again until I understand it, but once I do, I really have it down. This means I have to tell supervisors that I need to learn it again or to please be patient with me. And the good ones are willing and patient. Sometimes, it’s embarrassing for me, and I still get that massive panic feeling if I’m at a meeting where a lot of new information is disseminated quickly and all at once, but when that happens, I have to remind myself that I’m bright, I just need more time. And sometimes, I just have to raise my hand to ask “obvious” clarifying questions. And I haven’t been scolded for asking those questions.

The benefit is that I understand kids who struggle. And I want to be cognizant of that when I read to kids or answer questions. In my job, my supervisor has been patient and understanding. I haven’t been made to feel bad about my shortcomings. The learning curve was huge in starting my job. Even after the internship! There is so much to still learn. I’m getting better and better at leaving myself effective notes as reminders. I’m getting better at combing through all the details. I’m getting better at creating just the right organizational spreadsheets and color-coding for my visual learning strength. I’m ok. I can do this. I might be slow at writing and researching, but once again, I’m ok, I can do this.

Despite the challenges that learning differences and other disabilities can present, one of the things I like to encourage my readers to do (and actually, I have information on this very topic at the end of my book, ADHD AND ME) is to find the ADVANTAGE in disADVANTAGE. And, of course, this is not to suggest being unrealistic… but instead, it involves training your perspective. Instead of focusing on what you can’t do, or struggle to do, instead, focusing on your unique set of abilities that only you have and figuring out how to use them as a tool.

Each of us has our own set of “gifts” and skills that make us stand apart, so basically, find those silver linings and use them to your best ability. Remember- every glass that is half empty is also half full. So, make sure you maintain a realistic and positive perspective of your personal talents while remembering to balance your needs and respect your limitations.

Do you have any strategies that you find to be helpful? Explain.

I already mentioned things that help me in my job, but as for my writing, I highlight or leave sticky notes on books on craft. I listen to soundscapes on the Calm app for a constant noise, which helps my ADHD. Sometimes, I have family members read to me when my ADHD and OCD dovetail and I’m stuck reading the same sentence over and over and over again. I write immediately after work if I’m in a good workflow to piggyback on the momentum. I research, read, or take notes while working out (safely!) so that each task benefits the other with my ADHD. I talk my stories and ideas out to my bestie on the phone, which clarifies my thoughts.

What kind of silver linings have you discovered within your own set of unique abilities?

I’m honestly really good at note-taking (for myself, anyway!) and can find exactly where I need to return to get the piece of information I want. I’m great at multitasking. And I love, love, love the amount of different tasks I have as an agent’s assistant and thrive off of switching tasks constantly. I’ve never had a job that I loved more or suited me better. And since I have to reread a lot due to my ADHD and OCD, I remember details very, very well and write good reports on the manuscripts I read. And as far as writing goes, I have a lot of ideas and stories juggling around my brain and I’m comfortable with that.

If you could share any words of encouragement or advice with readers who may deal with similar circumstances in one (or all) of these areas- what would you like to tell them?

Be patient with yourself, and don’t compare. Really! Don’t get bothered by the social media posts/tweets that say how relieved they are that their first book is coming out when they’re 29 because their goal was to be published in their 20s, and they barely made it. Who cares if you’re in your 30’s, 50s, 50’s or 80s when you are first published? Enjoy things as they are at the pace you need.

And if you have OCD—plan ahead for book signings. Everyone’s OCD manifests differently, but when I felt more comfortable with a mask (I also am immunocompromised), I had one on hand. Since I knew I’d be touching people (hugs or shaking hands), I made sure to have hand sanitizer with me or know where the nearest sink and soap were. Also, if someone touched my pen, I could use the hand sanitizer to clean it off.

For my learning disability—I brought sticky notes for people to write the name they wanted the book dedicated to because I can’t hear a name and register it in my mind that quickly. I also can’t hear something spelled out loud without taking more time than I have.

For my anxiety—I brought pills that I could safely take and had family and friends who know my limitations around me as emotional anchors.

TIPS AND RESOURCES FOR KIDLIT WRITERS AND ILLUSTRATORS

Coming from the unique perspective of both sides of the publishing desk, what tips and resources would you like to share with aspiring writers and illustrators from A. The agenting side of the desk and B. The author’s side of the desk?

A. Research the agent you are sending your manuscript to. If the agent only represents children’s fiction, don’t send adult non-fiction. Be patient, publishing one book after acquisition takes a long time (including the contract process), and you’re not the only client your agent has or the only person your editor is working with. Do check in politely. If you need a deadline extended just ask. When you’ve submitted and are “waiting,” or if your book is in the process of being published, don’t wait around. Keep working on the next thing. If you don’t know how to find an agent, look at Publisher’s Marketplace, Query Tracker, conferences, and acknowledgements in the back of a novel. Workshop your query letter like you would your manuscript. If you get an R&R, take your time—don’t make hasty corrections then send it back right away. Don’t take rejections personally.

B. Take the time you need. If you are unwell (chronic illness or mental health issues), it’s ok to take a break—publishing will always be there, and so will your ideas. If you can and would like to, you can keep creating in your mind, or leave voice memos, or jot down notes, so you can develop your stories as you are able. You don’t actually HAVE to write every single day. Share a piece of you in your stories. If your heart is in it, it will show (even if it’s a silly book!). Find a critique group of people who are honest but incredibly kind who want to see you succeed. Read books on craft. Go to conferences (in person or online), even if you think you already know the information. Look for scholarships to attend those conferences, to pay for SCBWI, or take classes. You don’t need to spend a lot of money to succeed if you check out books and get those scholarships. Find support through social media if that is helpful. Once you follow one person, it’s easier to find another.

Are there any groups or places that helped you specifically on your writing journey that you’d like to share?

I had a mentorship through Las Musas during the writing of my manuscript, and it was monumental for me. Ana Siqueira was very knowledgeable, encouraging, and kind. I recommend looking for mentorships. I found out about Las Musas through LatinxPitch, so finding a community you connect with online can be incredibly helpful.

Any last tidbits or words of wisdom you’d like to share with our readers?

Write because you love it, not just for the goal of publishing.

Thank you so much for joining us today, Rachel. We appreciate you being with us and look forward to reading more of your stories on your continued publishing journey!

Interested in querying Writers House? Writers House is always open to queries. Look for more information at www.writershouse.com.

But hold on a second, we’re not quite finished. There’s still one last item on the agenda. And that is… the GIVEAWAY!

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TIPS AND RESOURCES FOR KIDLIT WRITERS AND ILLUSTRATORS

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