JANUARY 2025 FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH SPECIAL GUEST CHILDREN’S AUTHOR LISA KATZENBERGER, CONDUCTED BY CHILDREN’S BOOK WRITER, BLOGGER, AND FORMER LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

This year, we’re jumping into our Feature Interview segment with a guest who is every bit as lovely inside as she is out. Please welcome- Lisa Katzenberger! Lisa is a Children’s Book author known best for her beautifully written SEL stories that feature themes like being true to yourself, overcoming fears, and what it means to be a friend. But beyond her wonderfully charming stories, Lisa also wears many other literary hats, including her hat as a Writing Barn faculty member and writing instructor for classes like Write Submit Support. Which (fun fact) is actually how we met!

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Lisa, it’s so truly fantastic to have you here with us today. What an exciting way to kick off the new year. How’s the beginning of the new year treating you so far?

Hi Chelsea! Thank you for having me. My new year is starting off great after a very busy 2024, which ended with me running out of steam and realizing I needed to take a nice long break. I did, and I’m back and ready to hit the ground running in 2025! 

Okay, first question. Where are you located? This is a new one, but I think it will be nice for readers to see where on the globe our friends are. Last year, I had people from all parts of the world join this segment. Maybe to celebrate the five-year mark, I’ll do a world map with pins on it to see how many locations we’ve reached. It would also be neat if some of our writers could form local connections this way. I befriended a few local authors last year thanks to the Manuscript Academy podcast. Shoutout to Molly McCaffrey, now M Hendrix. 😊 Turns out we’re in the same SCBWI chapter!

I’m located in the western suburbs of Chicago, in La Grange, Illinois. I’ve lived in the Chicago area my entire life.

Lisa, where and when did your love for writing manifest?

I remember it so clearly! I was in third grade, and we were writing stories in class. Mine was about a haunted house. But when the lesson was over, I just didn’t want to stop writing–I had more story to tell! I told my teacher and she let me keep writing as long as I liked. I was hooked!

Tell us about your journey into kidlit. How did you end where you are today? And when did that journey begin?

I started writing stories in grade school – for several years I took an advanced English class that I think was called TREK, but I never knew what it stood for! But we got to do a lot of creative writing – writing stories and poetry, and I learned about things like alliteration and personification. It was fascinating. I kept writing a bit in high school, then more so in college, where I learned about the short story form and also worked on my college newspaper (which was a blast!). After college, I got a job as a technical writer, and while I was good at it and grateful for a steady salary, I was bored out of my mind. I kept writing stories in notebooks and journals and eventually took my first online creative writing class through Writer’s Digest University. That’s when I began to consider writing for publication, working on short stories and then eventually novels for adults. I’ve had a handful of short stories published and have two and a half novels sitting in the proverbial drawer. But when I had my kids in 2010, and started taking them to library storytimes and reading board books and picture books, that’s when I switched to writing for kids! I joined SCBWI, 12×12, Storystorm, and every challenge you could find. I scoured the KidLit411 website (a FREE gem of information), read every blog post, attended conferences, took classes at The Writing Barn, and just sat down and wrote and wrote and wrote. At this point, I’m represented by Wendi Gu of HG Literary and I’ve had six kidlit books published!

What made you decide to take the route to traditional publishing vs. independent? Explain.

When I first started thinking about getting published, I honestly didn’t realize independent publishing was an option. I still don’t know much about that landscape, but I do appreciate there are lots of different options for creators to get their stories out in the world.

How were you able to find your agent match, and what made you know she was the right one for you? Explain.

I’ve been represented by Wendi Gu for about six years, and she is my second agent. When I was querying the second time around, I was much more focused, had my debut PB under contract, and was further along in my writing career, so it was a shorter process. I loved so many things about Wendi—her warm personality, her Chicago upbringing, her track record selling kidlit, amazing references from clients, and her insight into my stories. But what really won me over (I did have multiple representation offers) was that she told me which stories I shared with her that she thought she could sell and which were just not hitting things right. I knew she would be honest with me, but give her feedback professionally and kindly. Wendi has continued to both support and challenge me over the years, and I’ve grown under her guidance. I am very lucky to have a partnership with her.

Were there any challenges that you faced at the beginning of your publishing journey? If so, what were they, and how were you able to overcome them?

My relationship with my first agent only lasted a couple years, and it was so hard for me to admit that it just wasn’t the right fit. I asked around to a lot of friends who I had made in the kidlit world for advice, and they helped me come to the conclusion that it would be OK to move on and I wouldn’t lose steam in my writing career. It was a scary move to make but has worked out in the long run.

For writers and illustrators who may be facing similar challenges, what advice would you give them?

If you are struggling in your relationship with your agent, be very honest with yourself if this person is helping or hurting you. Are you waiting weeks or months for replies to emails? You shouldn’t have to! Are you afraid you are “bothering” your agent? You aren’t! You are their client, and they want to help you develop your craft and sell your books. If they aren’t doing this, don’t hold on with someone who is not respecting you, your time, and the work of your heart.

What have been some of the greatest highlights of your publishing career? Explain.

One of my favorite highlights was seeing my debut picture book, NATIONAL REGULAR AVERAGE ORDINARY DAY, illustrated by Barbara Bakos, on display at my local independent bookstore, Anderson’s Bookshop. I went with my sister Krista, who was there to pick up a big order she had placed to give copies of my book to her friends and fellow teachers. Krista has since passed away, but she was my biggest fan. I will never forget how excited she was for me.

Me and my daughter Sydney at Anderson’s Bookshop with NATIONAL REGULAR AVERAGE ORDINARY DAY – Krista took this picture.

What have been some of the most difficult things you’ve faced on your publishing journey?

Handling the rejections. For a while, I was getting a thick skin, but over time, the rejections have started to hurt again. The last three books I’ve had out on submission have not sold. I try to focus on my current work, but there’s still heartache when a story you’ve worked so hard on isn’t picked up.

What’s the worst piece of writing advice you’ve ever been told?

I honestly can’t think of any bad writing advice I’ve received! I try to take some sort of learning from everything.

What’s the best?

Slow down. When I’m drafting, I have a tendency to rush through the emotional moments in a story, the parts that hit your heart and make a reader root for the main character. When I go back to revise, I have to remember to slow down pivotal moments in a story to really let the reader know what the character is experiencing.

What’s the best piece of writing advice you’ve ever been told?
“Slow down.” – Lisa Katzenberger

Do you have any favorite resources or communities that were especially influential to your writing journey that you’d recommend to other creators? If so, which ones and why/how were they able to help you?

The Writing Barn and the 12×12 Picture Book Challenge were both instrumental to my picture book career. I took classes through The Writing Barn and attended their retreats starting in 2017, and I had a mentorship with the wonderful Bethany Hegedus, who taught me so much and offered endless support and encouragement. With 12×12, in my first few years of writing picture books, I cranked out draft after draft. It was the practice I needed to learn how to craft a good story, and I met so many fellow writers who are now good friends!

Let’s talk a little about writing craft. Can you tell our readers what “craft” is all about and why it’s important to sharpen and hone those skills?

This is a great question, and it brings up a special memory. In the early 2000s, I was writing short stories and attempting to write my first novel. I was taking a class online through AOL messenger (yes, I’ve been at this for that long!,) and I remember the instructor using the word “craft” and I asked him what that word meant. I kind of felt silly afterward when I understood what he meant, but it reminds me that we all have to start somewhere, and there really are no bad questions.

Now, the tricky part is how in the world would I describe the craft of writing? I would say it’s the combination of the art and science of the creative writing process. Things like learning how to choose the best point of view, defining your protagonist’s voice, and identifying your story’s major plot points. 

What are some ways writers can learn to better their craft?

Read a lot! You will learn so much from reading stories – both in the genre you like to write and outside of it. Take classes, go to webinars, attend conferences. Meet other writers and talk about the writing process. Work with critique partners to get feedback on your stories. Try lots of different approaches in a story – experiment and have fun!

“Read a lot! You will learn so much from reading stories – both in the genre you like to write and outside of it. Take classes, go to webinars, attend conferences. Meet other writers and talk about the writing process. Work with critique partners to get feedback on your stories. Try lots of different approaches in a story – experiment and have fun!” -Lisa Katzenberger

While we’re on the topic of learning and improving, can you tell us a little bit about the other literary work you do outside of writing and publishing books for kids?

I teach writing courses online as well! I have taught classes or webinars through The Writing Barn, SCBWI, Inked Voices, and 12×12.

How did you end up working as a writing instructor? And do you feel this helps ground you in the literary world and also helps strengthen your own skills as a writer?

From 2017-2020, I attended three retreats at The Writing Barn, took two online classes, and began a mentorship with Bethany. Bethany and I got to be good friends, and as my work became published, she asked me to teach Perfecting the Picture Book I at The Writing Barn. From there, I taught other courses at the Writing Barn and did webinars for Inked Voices, SCBWI, and 12×12. Part of the joy of teaching is giving back to the writing community and sharing the knowledge I’ve gained over the years. It also helps me remember that we are all constantly learning – I still take classes and webinars all the time. I am inspired and encouraged by my students, and when they take chances with their work and push themselves, it inspires me to do the same.

The Writing Barn, Austin Texas

“Part of the joy of teaching is giving back to the writing community and sharing the knowledge I’ve gained over the years. It also helps me remember that we are all constantly learning…” -Lisa Katzenberger

Speaking of your writing, I’d love to talk some about writing SEL picture books. As you know, I love SEL picture books and quiet stories with lots of heart and sentiment. Your books are always favorites of mine. They always leave me feeling the warm fuzzies. You know when I get those because usually, I close the book and hold it to my chest and smile. Sometimes, I’ll even shut my eyes to savor the moment. For readers who may be wondering what SEL is, could you share a little more about what SEL books are?

SEL stands for Social Emotional Learning. In my research about SEL over the years, I found this definition from CASEL to be helpful: “SEL is the process through which all young people and adults acquire and apply the knowledge, skills, and attitudes to develop healthy identities, manage emotions and achieve personal and collective goals, feel and show empathy for others, establish and maintain supportive relationships, and make responsible and caring decisions.”

CASEL SEL Framework

Now, SEL picture books can be a hard sell for a lot of reasons. For one thing, your craft has to be just right for the story to really sing. And just because you have a lovely message doesn’t necessarily mean that a kid will find it lovely. So, it’s a delicate balance of finding the “kid” voice, tempered with the right pacing and right heart levels, and making sure it’s enjoyable for the readers (big and small). It’s really quite the master balancing act! But you always manage to do it so well. Can you tell our readers what your secret to writing a perfect SEL story is?

I see SEL books as those that focus more on how a character feels rather than what they do. These books are not as heavy on plot and may focus on exploring a specific emotion like empathy. For a great list of examples, check out librarian Betsy Bird’s recent list.

Oh gosh, I don’t know that I possess any secrets! But what I do have is a ton of tenacity. My SEL books take much longer for me to write. I go through 40-50 revisions over the course of several years. When there is a theme that is important to me, and I really want to tell a specific story, I really dig my heels in and refuse to give up! 

“When there is a theme that is important to me, and I really want to tell a specific story, I really dig my heels in and refuse to give up!” -Lisa Katzenberger

What are some hints and/or tips you can share with a writer on how to tighten or improve their SEL story? Do you have a magic checklist for what makes a SEL story sing?

I don’t have a checklist, but I often teach about thinking of the emotional shift in an SEL book. If it’s a story where your character changes (and they don’t have to!) you can look at what the emotional arc of their story is. For IT WILL BE OK: A Story of Empathy, Kindness, and Friendship, Giraffe moves from anxious to empathetic. In I CAN DO IT EVEN IF I’M SCARED: Finding The Brave You, the characters move from scared to brave. 

A map of the Plot and Emotion ARCS in IT WILL BE OKAY

-I love this visual of your story arc. It’s so helpful! Thanks for sharing.

Okay, time to celebrate some happy things. What have been some of the positive responses you’ve received from readers? And how did their words/actions make you feel?

I have been doing school visits this past year, and I love meeting with young readers. As they are coming into the presentation, some of them will ask me, “Are you The Author?” like it’s an official title. I think letting kids see the creator behind books helps them realize that they, too, could grow up to be an author or whatever they dream of being!

Lisa at a school visit

What are three things that instantaneously make you smile when you think about your career as a Children’s Book Author?

I get to make things up all day, I’m my own boss, and I can make kids think or feel something new.

-All wonderful things!

If you could share some words of wisdom with other writers and illustrators, pertaining to publishing and/or life, what would they be?

My 88-year-old mom, bless her heart, always says, “getting old isn’t for sissies!” You have to be a tough cookie to survive this publishing business, too. It is all really, really hard. The rejection, the self-doubt, the waiting (so much waiting!), the odds being stacked against us. And when you get to one milestone (say, signing with an agent), you realize there are a bunch of other milestones after that (selling a manuscript to an editor, getting your books into stores, having a decent sales record, the opportunity to sell another manuscript). There are so many points in this process where it would be SO easy to just throw your hands up and walk away. But please don’t! The world needs your stories – and not just the kids – the parents, teachers, and librarians need them too! Story is how we expand our worldview, learn something new, have a good laugh, or see ourselves reflected. As creators, we are doing important work for this world – keep at it! 

-Oh my gosh, I love this!!

Let’s talk about books! Could you tell us about some of your books and your inspiration behind writing them?

Most of my books were inspired by real-life events! Here is some background:

-Ooh, I did not know that! FUN FACTS with Lisa! Tell us more…

CROC & GATOR: Swamp Ranger School was inspired by my family travels. We took a swamp tour in Louisiana and I was fascinated with the setting. When I created my characters, and needed to give them a job, I was inspired by the National Park Service Junior Ranger program that my kids have participated in.

IT BELONGS TO THE WORLD: Frederick Banting and the Discovery of Insulin was inspired by my son Ryan who was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes and requires a constant supply of insulin to survive.

I CAN DO IT EVEN IF I’M SCARED: Finding The Brave You was inspired by my experiences in therapy. I talk about it in this interview with Psychology Today, as well as the Author’s Note at the beginning of the book.

Do you have any fun/exciting stories about things that have happened with any of your books?

For A LOVE LETTER TO MY LIBRARY, illustrated by Rob Sayegh Jr, I commissioned a unique song from the amazing Emily Arrow. I use it at storytimes and school visits, and it’s been a lot of fun. Emily uses ASL and hand motions in the video. When I was doing school visits this fall, one librarian had shown her students the video prior to my arrival. I was worried they would be bored watching it again, but when I played the videos, they all started singing along and signing! I got goosebumps – it was so sweet! You can watch Emily’s video here.

-How amazing! I love that you did this. What a fantastic resource for ASL. And I can only imagine how fun it must have been to have this experience with the kids. Thanks for sharing, Lisa!

Students watch Emily Arrow sing the song she created to accompany A LOVE LETTER TO MY LIBRARY.

What do you hope readers will feel while and/or after reading one of your books?

I hope that they feel hopeful! Hopeful that they can be brave, talk about their feelings, be a good friend, or discover something new.

-I love this response! So beautiful!

Is there anything else you’d like our readers to know?

I feel like I am at this weird point in my career where I’ve achieved so many of my initial goals, and yet at the same time, I feel like I don’t know if I’ll be lucky enough to keep going. In the past few months, I’ve been working with a career coach to focus on what success means to me and what steps I need to take to achieve that. Thinking about being a full-time author as a career I want to maintain has been intimidating, but I am hoping that if I continue to work hard and a little luck still falls my way, I will be able to keep writing books for a long time.

Lisa, thank you so much for joining us today and for all that you do for the kidlit community and your readers (big and small!) You bring so much courage and care to your work, and it truly makes a difference. We appreciate you!!

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Lisa Katzenberger: Author

Writes: Picture Books, Chapter Books

Traditionally published – meaning her work has been acquired by an editor at a publishing house, not a vanity/paid-for service or press.

Represented by literary agent Wendi Gu.

BIO Lisa Katzenberger has been writing stories since she was a kid. Books have been a part of her life since her mom took her to their local library each week, letting her roam around the children’s section, picking out whatever she wanted to read. She loved escaping into stories, and she still can’t believe she gets to write them for kids now! Lisa is the author of I CAN DO IT EVEN IF I’M SCARED: Finding the Brave You, A LOVE LETTER TO MY LIBRARY, IT BELONGS TO THE WORLD: Frederick Banting and the Discovery of Insulin, IT WILL BE OK: A Story of Empathy, Kindness, and Friendship, and CROC & GATOR: Swamp Ranger School. She is on the faculty of The Writing Barn, where she teaches picture book writing courses and serves on the Board of Trustees of her local library. Lisa lives near Chicago with her husband and two children.

CONNECT http://www.lisakatzenberger.com Instagram: @lisakatz17 Twitter: @FictionCity BlueSky: @lisakatzenberger.bsky.social

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OCTOBER 16TH, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CHINESE AMERICAN DEBUT KIDLIT AUTHOR-ILLUSTRATOR KIM-HOA UNG, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & FORMER LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

Today, I’m talking with debut kidlit author-illustrator Kim-Hoa Ung. We’ll be chatting about paths to publication, sharing motivation and resources, and discussing the importance of having inclusive books for kids by creators of marginalized backgrounds.

But before we jump into our interview, if this is your first time visiting the blog, here’s the scoop on Feature Interviews.

THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?

Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.

Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.

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These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:

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●       find writing community & other resources

●       discover workshops, contests, and other events

●       figure out which path of publication is right for you

●       know if your agent is a good match

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Now that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

INTRODUCTIONS & BEGINNINGS

When did you first enter the kidlit publishing arena?

Hi, everyone! Thank you for having me on your wonderful blog, Chelsea! I discovered the kidlit publishing arena in the Fall of 2020. While reading a book with my daughter one night, she asked why I couldn’t write a book and dedicate it to her one day. So I was inspired to try for her.

What was your inspiration for wanting to be a publishing kidlit author-illustrator?

I heard that you’d have a better chance of getting published if you were both author and illustrator. So I tried to do both. I never thought of becoming either of those because writing was always hard for me. I am an amigurumi artist, so designing characters isn’t so hard for me. But to create a full-colored spread out of a blank sheet was nerve-racking for me. But I just had to try for my daughter’s dedication someday.

You recently had your debut picture book come out in December of 2023. Congratulations! Can you tell us a bit about your journey to publication?


Thank you so much, Chelsea! There was a writing competition happening, and I decided to join. It was the Fall Writing Frenzy hosted by Kaitlyn Sanchez and Lydia Lukidis. I won, and my prize was a critique from an editor. During our meeting, I was surprised when she said she would like to work with me. That’s how my book found an editor. At the same time, I found an agent through a pitch event on Twitter/X. After several revisions, my book was acquired.

Staying positive in query trenches: What were the query trenches like and what were some things that helped you to keep going?

The query trenches were tough for me. I remember receiving my first rejection during the Christmas holidays. I cried. After months of rejections from agents, I felt very down. One didn’t like my storytelling style. Another didn’t like my art. I was wondering what I was capable of. What kept me going was encouragement from my family and kidlit friends. The writing community has been so supportive. There are those few who always comment, like, or share my posts. It means a lot to know I’m not alone out there struggling.

Your book was published with a traditional house, Macmillan Feiwel and Friends. While publishing with a traditional publishing house doesn’t always require literary representation, oftentimes, it helps. And in your case, you did have literary representation. Who are you currently agented by, and what agency?

My agent is Miranda Paul of Erin Murphy Literary Agency.

Did you know from the beginning that you wanted to pursue traditional publishing with the help of a literary agent, or did that decision take place later? Explain.

At first, I thought about self-publishing, but there was so much to learn. I also didn’t have the income to invest in printing books or hiring editors/designers. After enrolling in Storyteller Academy and learning more about publishing, I thought traditional publishing might be possible for me.

How did you end up with your agent & agency? Was it a cold query? A special query opportunity at a conference or other writing event/contest? Etc.

I found my agent through PBPitch on Twitter. I decided to pitch my story and art in October of 2021. I was excited to receive three hearts that day, one of those being from Miranda Paul. I queried her and was offered representation, which I accepted. Thankful for Debra Shumaker and PJ McIlvaine for hosting such a great event for the kidlit community.
For writers and illustrators who are querying now, can you share a little bit about what to expect for that agent call?

I was very nervous because this was my big chance. I made sure to have my list of questions. Justin Colon and Kelly Rice Schmitt were kind enough to put together a list of questions for agent calls and share it with the community.

-CHECK OUT THE LIST AT THE LINK HERE!

The list was very helpful.

-Thanks so much for sharing this awesome resource with readers, Kim-Hoa.

What made you decide to sign with the agent/agency you’re with? And why is signing with the “right” agent better than not having an agent all? Explain.

I decided to sign with Miranda because she was nice and enthusiastic about my work. Everything is so subjective in the publishing world. You just hope for someone supportive and passionate about your work. It is better to have an agent so that she can help guide you in the submission process and fight for your work.

What advice do you have to am querying author-illustrators who are looking to go into traditional publishing?

Keep writing and illustrating. Display and submit work that you truly love and are most proud of. Keep learning and being the best version of yourself. Find yourself kidlit friends who will give you helpful feedback and are supportive of you through all the ups and downs.

For author-illustrators who might be on the fence about whether or not to query for literary representation vs. submitting directly to publishing houses, what are some pros and cons of both routes?

I know that most publishing houses accept submissions from agented creators only. But I know a few creators who have successfully landed deals on their own. I, too, found my editor before my agent. So it is possible.

There are many agents looking for author-illustrators, so you have a good chance with a good portfolio and writing samples. You do what you feel most comfortable with. Even though I had interest from my editor on my dummy, I still wanted an agent so that she could help me negotiate the contract and to help me with future work.

ROAD BUMPS AND CELEBRATIONS

What have been some of your favorite parts of the publishing journey? 

One of my favorite parts of the publishing journey was receiving my proofs. All of my works have been on screen or printed on regular copy paper, so seeing it big on nice glossy paper was an exciting moment for me.
Another favorite moment was seeing my children hold and read my book for the first time together. I’m grateful to be able to dedicate the book to them. Seeing all the friends and family who came to support me at my book events was heart-warming too. Grateful for all who have supported my book and journey!

-Those all sound like very exciting moments! Thanks for sharing those with us. And for sharing the picture. :)

What are some of the challenges you faced in your publishing journey? Explain.

Learning how to illustrate digitally was a challenge for me. Coloring is still difficult for me because I have a hard time seeing what colors work well together. I need to study and practice more. Writing has also been challenging. Finding ways to make your story or art unique is always tough. Just have to keep trying.

What has helped you the most to stay motivated and continue on the path?


Having wonderful family, kidlit friends, and critique partners help make the journey less frightening. Seeing other people’s work on social media has also been inspiring.

-Yes! They make the journey so much better.

In your words, could you share the importance of having diverse books with creators of marginalized backgrounds and voices for our young readers?

It is so important. I wish I had those diverse books growing up. The only one I knew was Yeh-Shen: A Cinderella Story from China by Ai-Ling Louie. I loved the book so much and was so touched when my college roommate got it for me as a gift. Diverse books are important so that other kids and adults have the opportunity to learn about other cultures. They are the windows, doors, and mirrors for the world.

“Diverse books are important so that other kids and adults have the opportunity to learn about other cultures. They are the windows, doors, and mirrors for the world.” – Kim-Hoa Ung @AutumnLeaflet


Yeh-Shen: A Cinderella Story from China

For creators who are from marginalized backgrounds, do you have any favorite writing resources or communities that you’d recommend checking out?

Debbie Ridpath Ohi’s website has been very helpful, especially for new creators.

Check out Debbie's website at THIS LINK HERE. She also conducts interviews with creators so that you can learn more about the publishing industry and other people’s creative journeys.

Mia Wenjen also has a wonderful website that features many diverse books. For holidays and other occasions, she posts about collections of related titles.

Check out Mia's website at THIS LINK HERE.

Kaitlyn Sanchez has always been so supportive of writers and illustrators. I suggest you follow her on social media because she hosts/co-hosts writing competitions like Fall Writing Frenzy and Spring Fling Kidlit, and the community is so supportive of each other.

-Follow Kaitlyn on her X account at THIS LINK HERE, or visit her website at THIS LINK HERE to discover her Fall Writing Frenzy Contest, Spring Fling Kidlit Contest, and other resources. You can also learn more about The Fall Writing Frenzy on Lydia Lukidis website at THE LINK HERE.

BOOKS + EVENTS + PUBLISHING DEBUT

Your book has been out in the world for a little less than a year. How does it feel?!

I am very grateful for all the love and support I have received for A GIFT FOR NAI NAI. It is such a special feeling to see my book on shelves in bookstores, libraries, and readers’ homes. Thank you to everyone who has read, purchased, gifted, and reviewed my book.

What kind of response have you received from readers?

Readers have told me that A GIFT FOR NAI NAI reminds them of their loved ones, especially their grandmothers, giving them handmade gifts. They have said that my illustrations are so cute and that they love the Chinese writing characters dispersed throughout the book. A few readers have made Nai Nai’s hat too. So touching to see!

-How sweet!
Have you been able to host any local/or otherwise events? 

I was able to have storytime and book signings at Barnes and Noble at the Americana, Once Upon A Time Bookstore, Vroman’s Pasadena, and Bel Canto Books. I am grateful for everyone who came and was there in spirit!
Speaking of book events… this is your DEBUT book! How exciting. Could you tell us about your story and the inspiration behind it?

A GIFT FOR NAI NAI is about a girl who wants to make a special gift for her grandma’s birthday. I had not seen any picture books with crochet at the time, so that inspired me to create one. I used to crochet hats for my grandma, too, so this book is special to me.

-How special! I love that. And this picture is too cute.
Do you have a favorite illustration spread? If so, which one and why?

My favorite spread is when Nai Nai finds out the hat is for her all along, and she and Lyn Lyn hug each other. I love the sweet words Lyn Lyn has for Nai Nai. It is a blessing to have a grandma.

-So beautiful!
Any final words of wisdom that you’d like to share with our readers today?

Keep writing. Keep illustrating. Agents either didn’t like my writing or my illustrations. It was tough because it made me doubt myself. I wasn’t sure what I was capable of anymore. But the kidlit community and my family were encouraging. So, I kept writing and illustrating. It is important to find yourself supportive friends and critique partners who will help you do better. Good luck with everything, kidlit friends! I am rooting for you all!

“It is important to find yourself supportive friends and critique partners who will help you do better.”

Thank you so much for joining us today, Kim-Hoa.
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Kim-Hoa Ung is a Chinese American author-illustrator and amigurumi artist who enjoys creating stories that explore family relationships, friendship, empathy, culture and heritage, and immigrant life. When she’s not creating stories, you can find her crocheting pieces for art shows, sending snail mail, and making arts and crafts with her kids. She lives with her family in Southern California. A Gift for Nai Nai is her debut picture book, and it was published on December 5, 2023, with Macmillan’s Feiwel and Friends.

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JULY 17TH, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH NEURODIVERSE, INDIE CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR/ILLUSTRATOR AND EDUCATOR, KATIE GIGLIOTTI, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & FEATURE INTERVIEW HOST, CHELSEA DICICCO

Today, I’m talking with children’s book author, illustrator, and educator Katie Gigliotti. We’ll be discussing the route of indie publishing as an author/illustrator, neurodiversity, overcoming challenges, and celebrating successes!

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INTERVIEW QUESTIONS

WELCOME, KATIE GIGLIOTTI!

It’s so great having you with us today, Katie! I’d love to start our interview today by asking what led you here to the wondrous world of kidlit publishing? Have you always been inclined to writing and illustrating or did that come later in life?

First of all, let me take a moment to say thank you, Chelsea, for this opportunity! I feel honored to be chosen for this interview.
Oddly enough, despite my grandfather’s constant encouragement as both a child and young adult and my notebooks full of stories, I never thought about actually writing and illustrating as a profession. It seemed out of reach, like something someone way more talented and creative than me would do. I actually always thought I’d write a novel before I would ever consider the world of kidlit. However, during the great slowdown of 2020, I discovered a free class on Facebook, and once I started, I was hooked!


What made you realize you wanted to go the self-publishing route, and when did that journey start?

I knew little to nothing about publishing when I first started this process in 2020. After listening to some other authors, both traditionally and self-published, I honestly thought I’d go the traditional route first. It seemed like a safer path, and I’m not one for taking risks. But after a year of developing manuscripts and illustrating a story for someone else (more on that later), I realized I could do it on my own. Once I realized I would have total control over what I was doing and I didn’t have to wait for someone to like it or buy into it, I took a gamble and introduced my first book into the world in 2022.

You mentioned in your application that you’re neurodiverse—me too! That’s part of why you ended up taking the route to publishing, which you’re currently doing, branching out with independent publishing rather than traditional publishing. If publishing has taught me anything, it’s the value of patience. As an ADHD girl myself, I know it can REALLY be a struggle to have at times. Can you share some of your personal experiences and struggles related to the long timeline of publishing and how A.D.D. affects your everyday working life?

Although I’ve never struggled to start something, I’ve ALWAYS struggled with the follow-through. When I first started writing and illustrating, my husband was wary of believing I’d stick with it. Over the years, I have been a painter of signs, baker of fancy cakes, maker of sewn stuffies, felter of cute critters, and sculptor of tiny characters; I even tried photography for a bit. I honestly didn’t even know if I’d stick with it. I got easily bored once something kept repeating itself over and over. (I’d be a terrible factory worker!) However, I find that each book is different and provides just enough intrigue to keep me going.

Before I was medicated, I was a constant scatterbrain. If I didn’t write it down or keep repeating it in my head over and over, I’d forget. I would be incredibly distracted by technology of any kind. I also suffer from time blindness. I would *think* that an illustration would only take an hour when in reality, it was taking 2-5 hours to complete.

What helped me the most, besides getting the medication I needed, was learning to be very intentional about my time. Since I have a full-time job and two kids, I knew I’d have to use pockets of time to my advantage. I’ve had to actually time myself to see just how long it takes to get a certain task done so I don’t over or under-plan. It’s been years of lists, timers, notes, reminders, and setting goals. It hasn’t been easy, but it’s been worth it!

-Wow, Katie. Yes, I totally relate to all of the above. And I love your tips on learning how to be very intentional with your time.-


On my blog, I try my best to include as diverse a group as I can, and that includes routes to publication. Many readers are striving for traditional kidlit publishing, which involves querying agents and going on sub with traditional publishing houses, but there are tons of people out there who manage to make it- and thrive- with independent publishing. And then, of course, there are hybrid authors *like me* who want to do both- traditional and indie. So, it’s wonderful being able to talk with you today because you have insider experience in the self-publishing world. And- you have that experience not only as a writer but also as an illustrator.

You said it best in your application when you said, “Self-publishing is a whole different ball game and is NOT for the faint of heart.” Having independently published my first picture book, ADHD and Me, I can wholeheartedly say I understand and agree with that statement. So, let’s talk more about that…

Tips from neurodiverse creators: “What helped me the most, besides getting the medication I needed, was learning to be very intentional about my time.

TACKLING THE BEAST OF SELF-PUBLISHING AS AN AUTHOR/ILLUSTRATOR

Can you share with us some of what the behind-the-scenes of self-publishing looks like as an author/illustrator? And how does this route differ from traditional publishing?

To self-publish a book, you have to be extremely motivated. You are the author, illustrator, editor, formatter, marketer, buyer, and seller - among other things. Not to mention the business end, with taxes and bookkeeping. It’s also, at the beginning, a very lonely thing to do.
Traditional publishers help with all of these things. They have people who will edit, typeset, format, and market. There are people working with you all the way from rough dummy to final draft. Plus, not only are they able to get your book into bookstores and libraries, but they also pay YOU in advance for the work. However, they also take the majority of your earnings, and because they are heavily investing in your work, they have creative control over the project.

Since I knew I wanted creative control as well as the ability to earn as much as I could, I decided to try self-publishing. Getting into this I knew I had a small budget, so I had to learn how to do everything by myself. I watched a million YouTube videos, read so many books, and became members of many groups to figure everything out on my own. It took about a year of research to finally feel comfortable with the idea.

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve made A LOT of mistakes along the way. Ones that probably could have been avoided if I had a publishing company and all of their resources backing my book. As a trade-off, I’ve saved a ton of time. The year it took me to research and learn would probably have been spent creating manuscripts and dummies to query. Not to mention the year - or longer- it would have taken to get an agent and, from there, months to years to get a book deal. That doesn't even include the time it would take to finish the book!

I’ll be honest, there were times I wondered, and still wonder, if I made the right decision! However, now that I put in the work of learning how to do all the things, I’m pretty proud of myself. I know I’ve come a long way and since I’m no expert at everything, I can continue to grow as I lean into the very scary and daunting world of marketing!


For people who may be considering this route, what were the first steps you looked into? And where would you recommend other creators start?

DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST!

1. Learn how to write and/or illustrate a good story.
Anyone can write a book, but you have to learn HOW to write a good book first. Take a class, watch YouTube videos, or talk to someone who has been there before to find out all the important information.

2. Learn how to market.
Unless you’re trying to publish for yourself, publishing is a business, and you’ll quickly find out you’re a little fish in a big, big sea. I made a journal and published it to Amazon before I ever tried a book just to see if it would sell. I told no one of its existence, and after a year, I had sold 0 copies! It was a great experiment that made me realize the importance of marketing so it’s a good idea to learn a bit about marketing before you begin!

3. Make sure your book looks polished.
There are certain unspoken rules in the picture book world, including word count, page number, ISBNs, LCCN’s, etc. that you’ll need to learn about to make your book look professional.

4. People DO judge a book by its cover.
Make sure yours looks good!

5. Build up a presence online
Whether it’s a website, social media account, YouTube, or something else, make sure someone can find you online. You would need this if you are self or traditionally publishing. It’s hard to sell things if people can’t find you or don’t know what you’re selling.

6. Make connections!
The easiest way to find your market, critique groups, bookstores, libraries, etc., is to start making connections now. Also, don’t be afraid to tell people about your book. Most people want to publish a book but only a few are brave enough to go through with it. Be proud of yourself!

7. You’re going to hear a lot of different advice from different people.
Some will tell you one thing works, while others will tell you the complete opposite. Unfortunately, there is no magic formula to make it work. You have to find out what’s right for you.

-I love all these tips and suggestions, Katie. Yes!!-

Publishing tips from an indie author: “Build up a presence online
Whether it’s a website, social media account, YouTube, or something else, make sure someone can find you online… It’s hard to sell things if people can’t find you or don’t know what you’re selling.”

Publishing tips from an indie author: “Make connections! The easiest way to find your market, critique groups, bookstores, libraries, etc., is to start making connections now. Also, don’t be afraid to tell people about your book.

How did you handle the editorial portion of your writing? Did you hire a professional editor? Did you use beta readers or critique partners? 

I’m lucky enough to have a sister-in-law - thanks, Naomi!- who can edit for me, so I can’t really speak to hiring anyone professionally. However, before I send it off for editing, I heavily rely on critique partners to weigh in on the formatting, word choice, and story flow, as well as illustration critique groups to help with that part. I also have the advantage of being a teacher so I can always use the story as part of a lesson and see how the students react. Sometimes, that’s the best way to tell if a story flows well or can keep a kid's attention!

Can you walk us through the illustrative side of things? How did you learn how to create picture book dummies, and what were those early stages like? How did you revise your artwork?

Believe it or not, despite being an illustrator, when I first started out I didn’t think I could illustrate my own work! It took another friend of mine asking me to illustrate her own story to make me believe in myself.

I had somewhat of an advantage as an art teacher because I had already had college classes that focused on the basics. However, illustrating a picture book is vastly different from creating a standalone art piece. My biggest hurdles were character creation, keeping the characters consistent throughout the book, and color palette. There is also the idea of pacing the story, page count, and page turns, which were things I needed to and still do- work on.

I learned most of my dummy making through Storyteller Academy. The classes they offered helped me to work on my pacing, page turns, and think through the story. I am truly sad that they are disbanding! Thankfully, through SCBWI, I found a great group of illustrators in my region who have helped me by critiquing my work and finding parts that need tweaking.

Early on, I worked in traditional mediums since I had little experience with working digitally. I had to teach myself how to scan images in, how to save them properly, and how to format a book digitally. While I was growing as an illustrator, I was also learning how to create artwork digitally, which is the medium I prefer now.

-So fascinating hearing the details behind-the-scenes! Thank you for sharing.-

WORKING AS AN EDUCATOR

I know you have a degree in education and have been teaching art for quite a number of years now. How long have you been an art teacher?

I just finished up my 18th year as an elementary art teacher in May. Only 12 more years to go!

Can you tell us about how your educational background as a teacher contributes to or intersects with your publishing?

Being a teacher, especially an elementary teacher, keeps me immersed in the kidlit world. I have a front-row seat to the likes and interests of kids, as well as the needs of teachers and schools. This is incredibly helpful in deciding on the stories I want to work on. Although my first three books were very personal to me, the next stories I’m working on focus more on solving a need for kids, parents, and teachers, which helps make marketing much easier!

Do you ever have students ask you about your books and how they can create books of their own?

Yes! I don’t do a lot of promoting of my books at my own school -it’s slightly frowned upon by admin- but some of my colleagues, including our school librarian, are great at getting the word out there and even reading my books in class. (Thanks, guys!)

The reactions I get are sometimes shock, “Oh my goodness, you WROTE a BOOK?!”, awe, “If I buy your book, will you sign it for me?” and the occasional eye roll, depending on the student or age.

As for making books of their own, I don’t get a lot of requests since they are pretty young. However, this year, one student approached me, and I am currently working on helping him digitize his graphic novel so he and his family can look into self-publishing it.

-That's SO cool!-

Would you say that being a teacher has benefited your publishing journey by connecting you with your community- local bookstores, libraries, schools, and more?

Yes and no. On one side, I have gotten quite a few school visits from my connections, and also support from local libraries, which have been wonderful! My colleagues and some parents are also super supportive of my journey. I haven’t been very successful getting into local bookstores since we don’t have many in our small area.

However, since I tend to keep to myself a lot, I don’t think I reap the full advantage that my position offers me. It’s something I’m working on.

- Thanks for sharing such an honest perspective with us! From one introvert to another, I'm rooting for you!-

Speaking of bookstores, libraries, and schools… have you been able to host any local storytime/book events? If so, we’d love to hear about them!

I have done several school visits and vendor fairs, which are so much fun! The best part was being able to return to my hometown, in Pennsylvania, to participate in a local book event where I was able to meet some awesome authors and illustrators. I truly look forward to growing in my author career and setting up more of these events in the future!

I haven’t had any book signing events, but that’s mainly because I’m too afraid to ask! I’m not great at self-advocating, and I honestly don’t know where to start. However, as my list of available titles grows, I look forward to setting these up!

-It can be daunting to self-advocate and promote your work for sure. But it sounds like you have a very supportive local community members- schools and libraries - maybe they'll have some suggestions/connections to share when the time is right. :) -

VICTORIES AND STRUGGLES

On the blog, we love celebrating victories and sharing stories, resources, and encouragement. And sometimes… encouragement can come from sharing the hard stuff, too. Can you tell us a little bit about some of the challenges you’ve had to face during your publishing journey and how you’ve been able to overcome them?

*chuckling as I type this*

My biggest challenge is myself. I am not great at self-promotion, which is a skill that you need as a self-published author/illustrator. Like most introverted people, I’d much prefer to sit back and create and not worry about the marketing side of things.  I’m also pretty terrible at scheduling things, so I tend to limit myself in that way. Oh, and of course that dreaded imposter syndrome. Since I don’t have a traditionally published book, I feel like people look at me as if I’m not good enough to get a traditional deal, even when it’s my choice to take this route.

As far as overcoming them, I will say that as time goes on, I push myself to try new things and put myself out there more (like this interview!). By making connections outside of my own circle, celebrating the small gains, and creating professional books, I am slowly growing my audience and squashing my self-limiting beliefs. I realize I don’t know it all and continue to learn new things as I walk this journey!

- *Me, cracking up.* Hey, identifying the problem is half the solution. So really, depending on your perspective, it's already a glass half full.-

Now let’s celebrate some wins- what have been some of your favorite kidlit moments? You can list as many as you’d like! And if you have pictures you’d like to share, that would be great, too!

My top 4 favorite kidlit moments:

1.Releasing my first book, Wander World

This was HUGE for me. I did everything – minus the editing and some critiquing – on my own.

-This is huge! I’m cheering.-

2.Participating in a book festival in my hometown.

It was so much fun to return home, make friends with the other local authors in attendance, and even meet some famous authors and illustrators!

-I bet!-

3.Getting my books into an actual store.

After my first book was released, I walked into a local store to ask if they would carry my book – and they said yes!  This has carried on with my second and hopefully my newest book!  You never know if you don’t ask.

4.Meeting all the wonderful authors and illustrators out there.

The kidlit community is one of the most fantastic groups of people I’ve ever met; it almost seems surreal at times. They are always ready to cheer you on, lend a helping hand, or provide comfort if you are feeling down. The best was one of our promotion videos where we all posed in a box.

-I love all of these, Katie. And the pictures are fantastic!-

TIPS AND RESOURCES

If you could give an aspiring kidlit illustrator or author a piece of advice (or pieces of advice), what would it (or they) be?

Just do it. If it’s something you’ve always dreamed of and you are passionate about it, get out there and create, write, draw, learn, and make it happen! There is no better feeling than accomplishing something you set out to do.

No matter what path you take, this is a long process! Learning how to write and illustrate a good book takes time. Doing it takes time. Formatting and getting it out there takes time. Don’t get discouraged when things aren’t done on time or something goes wrong. However, make sure you set some reasonable goals for yourself. If you don’t have a clear vision of where you’re going, you most likely won’t get there.

Also, echoing my statements above, make sure you are putting out professional-looking, well-crafted stories and that you have done some research and learned a bit about marketing before you start!

I know you mentioned that you are a member of SCBWI, Storyteller Academy, and numerous critique groups. Could you share with our readers a few of the benefits of each of these and how they can help you grow in your journey?

The kidlit community is AMAZING! I cannot even begin to explain how helpful, kind, and supportive they are.

SCBWI (The Society for Children's Book Writers and Illustrators) is the gift that keeps giving. From classes to critiques, forming groups and relationships, conferences, and growing your community, they have it all! I haven’t even taken advantage of all its many resources, and I can’t begin to explain how much they have helped me. It is where I met my critique groups, which are equally amazing. They have provided support, advice, and even opportunities to write and illustrate for local publications.

Storyteller Academy has been paramount in my journey so far. The classes they provide help with everything from character design, dummy creation, rhyming, story structure, and even the business end of things. Although I believe their approach to be highly focused on traditional publishing, I know before they decided to disband, that they were moving towards and adding more classes in self-publishing. I am so sad to see this incredible resource go.

I know there are many other resources out there that I’m not currently a part of, which can be equally beneficial.

Are there any other groups/organizations or otherwise that have greatly benefited you on your writing and illustrating journey that you’d like to share?

Although there is no formal “group” or “membership,” the self-publishing community has been paramount in my ability to grow in this! Once you make a few connections, they are incredibly supportive of other author-illustrators by giving advice, sharing wins and losses, and spreading the word about your books!

Advice for aspiring kidlit authors and/or illustrators: “Just do it. If it’s something you’ve always dreamed of and you are passionate about it, get out there and create, write, draw, learn, and make it happen! There is no better feeling than accomplishing something you set out to do.”

THE BOOKS!

We’ve finally made it to the book portion of the interview. We want to hear all about your stories! I know you’ve done author/illustrator books of your own, and you’ve also done illustrations for local authors (so cool!). Let’s start with the projects that you’ve done solely yourself- as an author/illustrator.

Can you tell us a little about your stories and where the inspiration for them came from?

The first three books I’ve published as the author/illustrator have been very personal to me.

Wander World, my first book, is not only an imaginative adventure across the seven continents but also a tribute to my grandfather. Illustrated in traditional watercolor, it tells the story of an actual game we used to play. Since his encouragement propelled me into this journey, I could think of no better way of honoring him than by dedicating my first book to him.

- What a beautiful tribute.-

Below are two of my favorite illustrations from the story. In the first one, my grandpa and I are visiting Australia and snorkeling at the Great Barrier Reef, which is something I’ve always wanted to do. 

The second one is us in Venice, beside the Rialto bridge. I was supposed to travel to Italy in college, but the events of 9-11 threw a wrench in that plan, and I’ve yet to see it in person!  This is one of my favorites because I’ve added some Easter eggs. The adult couple walking are my husband and I and on the opposite page –not pictured– is my son, fishing.
You are: finding God in the little things is a quiet story which takes the reader from day to night and throughout the seasons and encourages the reader to look for the little things in life and appreciate all the beauty that God has created for us. Since I like to keep to myself, and I don’t feel that pushing my faith on others is fun for anyone, I created this as my own personal ministry.  It’s my way of reaching out to kids and adults who may question their faith and inspire those who have faith not to lose it.

The illustration below is certainly one of my favorites. It’s one of the summertime illustrations, which is my favorite season, and it really speaks to my love of both rainbows - or colors in general - and art! The illustrations for this book - done with painted paper cutouts and edited digitally - took me forever! Each of those stripes on her dress, the rainbow pieces, the sun rays, and bits of chalk are individually cut and glued on!
All My Love, my newest book - which only came out two days ago!-  is a tribute to a mother’s love for her child. 

-Whoa! Congratulations on your new book! That must be so exciting. :) –

Since my daughter just recently had a milestone birthday and graduated from high school, I wanted her to know I’d always be there for her. I wasn’t even planning on putting this out into the world, but once it was finished, I loved it so much I felt it could be appreciated by others as well. The fun part was being able to incorporate a ton of easter eggs specifically tailored to my daughter's favorite toys throughout the years.

This illustration from the story is one of my favorites because of the irony. It’s also a nod to her starting off on her own as an adult as if the meteor is the end of a season in our lives. I think any parent can relate to the way young children - or, in this case, dinosaurs - can cling to you and notice all the beautiful things in the world.
I'm currently working on a series about color, focusing on one color at a time, that will help pre-k, kindergarten, and art teachers introduce their students to colors in a fun way! I have been tinkering with these since 2020, when I was trying to teach color and noticed that a series of books like this didn’t exist.

With the dawn of AI and the threat of illustrators and writers losing their relevance, I created this for social media to remind others that human intelligence far surpasses artificial intelligence. It showcases all the different colors, each of which will have their own book.
Traditional publishing is a very long route. However, independent publishing can often move at a quicker pace. Of course, the timeline will vary from person to person. How long did it take you to get from story concept to publication?

For my first book, it took quite a long time, around a year and a half from start to finish. Mainly because I was not only writing and illustrating it, but simultaneously working a full-time job, learning how to add digital edits, format, edit, and upload to the different platforms.

Now, depending on the type of illustrations I do and how quickly I can perfect the story, it can take anywhere from 1 year to 6 months.
What publishing platform(s) did you use to list your book (KDP, Lulu, IngramSpark, etc.)? And what formats do you offer—audiobook, hardcover, softcover, etc.?

I have my books available in hardcover, paperback, and eBook format. The paperback and eBook versions are available through KDP or Kindle Direct Publishing. I am enrolled in Kindle Select, so if you have a subscription, check them out! For the hardcover option, I have been using IngramSpark, which is helpful since they are a wholesale company and are able to get those books into different retail options like Barnes & Noble, Walmart, Target, Books-A-Million, and others!

I will say that the quality of print-on-demand books isn’t always the greatest. My next step is to run a Kickstarter campaign, which would allow me to purchase better-quality hardcover books in bulk.

Do you have any formatting tips for folks who are looking to publish independently?

I sure do!

First, if you know nothing about formatting and can afford it, find someone to do the typesetting and formatting for you. It’s much easier than learning by yourself.

I would also recommend finding someone to design your cover for you. Unfortunately, most people still judge a book by its cover, so having an eye-catching, well laid out cover is super important!

However, if you’re determined to do it on your own, make sure you find a great tutorial for your program of choice. The first book I did I used Canva, because it was free. Pro tip: Canva pro is free for educators! However, I wouldn’t recommend it. It turned out slightly blurry. Canva is great, however, for making any type of marketing material, including social media posts, videos, flyers, school visit order forms, etc.

For all the rest of my books, I’ve used Adobe Indesign, which is much more precise and has its own set of learning curves. Adobe is a paid program, so I would suggest asking someone who already owns the program to try it out before you sign up.

Please make sure, if you are illustrating your own, or if you are having someone else illustrate, you know the size of your book before you begin. Some platforms don’t support certain sizes, so be certain to check before you decide!

Also, you need to understand bleed and dimensions, which can be explained on each platform's website. Oh, and don’t forget to leave, or have your illustrator leave, space for the text on each page!

You also need to know your page count. 32 pages is standard for children’s picture books, but you can go up to 40 if need be. It always has to be in multiples of 4. Keep in mind that your first few pages should be set aside for copyright and title pages, but the best way to figure this out is going to your local library and checking out some picture books. Take note of where the important information goes, the size and type of font, and how many pages there are.

I could go on and on about this for hours. Honestly, if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me!

-This is all great info, Katie! I hope it inspires/helps some of our readers today to get out there and start pursuing their dreams!-

What kind of promotional activities did you do to spread the word about your book launch? And do you have any recommendations for newbies?

As an indie author, launching strong can make or break your book. I’ve learned this the hard way! If you are publishing on Amazon, the goal is to get some attention and hopefully reviews in the first few days of publication. If you can get that, KDP will automatically show your book to people. If not, it sort of gets lost in the other millions of books out there in the world. If you are running a Kickstarter, the idea is to get pledges so you can meet your goal. If you plan on selling on your own website, building your email list is very important!

I’m still working out the kinks with book launches. Launching a book is a process, and I haven’t been very good at getting the word out early enough. So far, I’ve tried several different tactics to see how they would work, and all I can suggest is to start early!

-Yes to all of the above. Starting early, getting pledges, lining up reviewers for your launch- all of that is SO important, ESPECIALLY for indie authors.-

I’ve done a Facebook live event, which seemed to garner some attention. I also hosted a giveaway for free physical copies for people who signed up for my email list. Of course, I utilized social media to get the word out by posting at least a month or more before the actual launch. I’ve also offered free lesson plans and coloring/activity pages for people who promised to promote the launch. For my newest release, I ran a free eBook promo to garner some reviews and asked for friends and family to join my launch team in exchange for a chance to win a copy of the book.

In short, giveaways, games, parties, live events, inviting people to be a part of the story in some way, and lots and lots of promotion, months ahead of time lead to a successful launch!

-Yes! Make it as fun as possible for your audience. Giveaways and games are always a hit!-


Let’s talk a little about your illustrative work locally. How did you end up doing illustrations for local authors? Were they friends of yours prior? Did you advertise commissioned artwork somewhere? Explain.

Story time:

All I can say is this was meant to be. As I was learning about the writing and publishing process, I didn’t feel confident enough to create my own illustrations. I was so upset that I would never get my story out into the world when a former colleague, now an elementary principal, contacted me one day out of the blue and asked if I’d be willing to illustrate a book for her. After much soul searching, I decided I’d give it a try, but I warned her that I’d never had any experience illustrating and I wasn’t sure how it would turn out.

She took a gamble on me, and in turn, we created our first book, The Giraffe Who Loved School. Her belief in me then inspired me to create my own work! Because she was so wonderful to work with - she basically let me have creative control over the whole project- I’ve also illustrated a second book for her, Be Nice To Your Teacher. From that, I’ve had several people ask me to illustrate some books which I am working on currently.

So, to answer your question, most of my work has been from word of mouth, friends, and family.

-Wow! I really love this.-

What has that journey been like and how does it differ from doing author/illustrator?

In some aspects, it cuts down on the time it takes me to work since the story is already planned out. My only focus is on creating characters, deciding on a color palette, and making it come to life. Not that it’s easier -illustrating takes time!- but I don’t have to work through the writing.

If you’re working with the right person, it’s a pleasant experience. You can communicate with them and they aren’t hovering over you, constantly unsatisfied with your illustrations and trying to get you to make changes. So far, I haven’t had any unpleasant experiences but I’ve heard some horror stories from other illustrators. This makes me wary to do any books with individuals who are very picky.

The one downside is not having full creative control over the entire book. Even if you, as the illustrator, want to make changes to the text layout or reword something, it’s technically NOT your book to change! I guess what I’m saying is that you can’t overstep your boundaries.

Do you have any recommendations for artists who may be looking to start doing commissioned illustrations?

Beware who you work with, and make sure you have a contract! Although my experience was wonderful, I’ve heard so many horror stories of both authors and illustrators getting cheated in some way, shape, or form.
Know your worth. If you are just starting out, you might not be charging as much since you are still learning and growing. However, don’t undersell your work. If you look at how long it takes you to create a 32-page book, make sure you are getting a fair wage for all the work you are putting into it. Check with other illustrators to see their rates.

Make sure you have a portfolio of work that someone can access. On a website or social media, it’s important that people know what they are getting when they start working with you.

Know what you enjoy illustrating! Don’t promise to do a style or medium you can’t do; everyone will just end up frustrated. Also, don’t work on a story that doesn't resonate with you. Make sure you feel comfortable with the author's story and vision.

-Really great advice.-

Any final words of wisdom you’d like to leave our readers with today?

One last thing. I know how hard I can be on myself as an artist or writer, constantly trying to live up to this invisible perfection. Imposter syndrome is REAL, people!

What I’ve had to realize is that the majority of people aren’t judging your work as hard as you are. Not saying you won’t have any critics, but most people are simply impressed that you are able to do the thing!

If you have any questions about self-publishing or just want another author/illustrator to chat with, feel free to reach out at any of the places listed below!

Thank you so much for joining us today, Katie.

Thank you for having me, Chelsea! Again, I really appreciate this opportunity!

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JULY 3RD, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EDUCATOR, LITERARY BLOGGER, AND CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR ANDREW HACKET, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT BLOGGER & WRITER, CHELSEA DICICCO

Today, I’m talking with children’s book author, literary blogger, and educator Andrew Hacket. 

But before we jump into our interview, if this is your first time visiting the blog, here’s the scoop on Feature Interviews.

THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?

Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.

Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.

What can these interviews offer YOU?

These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:

  • stay current with market trends
  • hook an agent or editor
  • find writing community & other resources
  • discover workshops, contests, and other events
  • figure out which path of publication is right for you
  • know if your agent is a good match

And more!

AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month! *If you’re interested in entering the giveaway, scroll to the bottom of the interview for instructions.*

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

BEGINNINGS, INSPIRATION, AND EDUCATION

How did you end up in the amazing world of kidlit publishing?
My path to kidlit stemmed from a childhood creativity that lingered into adulthood. I had always liked the idea of writing, and dabbled here and there, but never had the time or energy to fully explore how to make this dream a reality.


Fast Forward to 2020 and the world was closing down. My 3 young children were going to be home learning from a computer screen, and someone had to be with them. As a result, I left my job as a teacher for the year and stayed home to support my children and their learning. What I quickly discovered was that while I was fulfilling an incredibly important role and need in my children’s lives, I was extremely, mentally, unstimulated. I was used to the fast-paced, mind constantly whirring life of a teacher, and this sudden stillness and calm in my brain was unsettling and not for me. So, with this new mental capacity, I dove headfirst into the publishing waters, listening to every webinar and podcast I could find, embracing the Twitter kidlit community, joining in with contests, and building my network of writing friends.

Outside of your work as a writer, I know you’re also a literary blogger and elementary school educator of 18+ years. Which is incredible! Can you share more about that, and how those things connect to your writing career?

Working with children is all I have ever done. I began in afterschool programs and summer camps, before doing daycare and moving into my career as a teacher. Having spent so much time with kids (and conveniently my target audience) over the years has helped me maintain a childlike outlook on the world and be in tune with how kids think and what they like. Teaching has also given me a depth of knowledge when it comes to picture books. Reading picture books is embedded in my job and has helped me learn about structure and pacing.My blog is a constant source of inspiration as well. Hearing others’ stories of publication and creativity feed my own creative spirit and motivate me to continue writing. And in addition to all of that wonderfulness, interviewing authors keeps me connected to my community and can often open my eyes to new publishers or editors I had not previously known about.

Let’s talk a little bit about writing inspiration. I want to touch on a few lines from your bio because I loved them (and related to them) so much!
 

Andrew recognizes that being a kid is hard and he writes to create ways for children to see themselves in stories and characters, to accept and overcome their insecurities, or to escape for just a little while through the power of their imaginations. 

-I just love this!

So, it’s obvious you care a lot about children and their world, emotionally and mentally. Which, being a teacher and children’s book writer, only makes sense. Can you share a little more about where this connection to kids really started? What motivated you to want to dedicate your life toward bettering the lives of young readers, and students?

I like to tell students that I am a kid at heart. I have a healthy dose of Peter Pan syndrome and always have. Some kids are excited to grow up and do all of the things they think make being an adult awesome. I never was and I think that is a large reason I work with kids. Their energy keeps me young and connected to my inner child. I have worked with children since I was 16. I began at an afterschool program which then led into summer camps and daycares. What I discovered early on was that not only did I enjoy being with kids, but I was really adept at connecting with their emotions and understanding their wants, needs, and motivations behind their actions. This set me on the path to being a teacher and I have not regretted that choice ever.

“I have a healthy dose of Peter Pan syndrome and always have. Some kids are excited to grow up and do all of the things they think make being an adult awesome. I never was and I think that is a large reason I work with kids.”

As an educator, I imagine you want to engage your readers on an emotional level and impart some educational messages as well. Can you tell us a little bit about what lessons you hope little readers (and bigger readers) can gain from your books?

My three books vary widely in topic, tone, and structure, but each one has a strong SEL connection that I think comes from my years as an educator and also my own struggles growing up. Every child wants to feel a sense of belonging, and I think at some point, every person struggles with this despite how an outside perspective might perceive it. I hope my books help young readers feel seen and can push them on the path of accepting themselves and others for who they are at that moment.

Speaking of books… I know you write across genres in kidlit: picture books, early readers, poems, and middle grade. I love talking with people who have a range of writing experience because each genre carries its own set of rules. I’m curious to know, for our readers and myself, how you balance these rules and keep your genres separated while writing? And have there been times when you’ve started, say, a picture book, that eventually “told you” it wasn’t meant to be a picture book and instead turned into something else- like an early reader or a middle-grade novel?

This is such a wonderful question. Overall, I don’t often focus too hard on “the rules”. That being said, I do think a fair amount of those rules become ingrained in our minds from when we were younger readers and perhaps the writing was a bit more formulaic.

For the majority of my writing, I approach it with the intent of creating picture books. I do try to be mindful of a smaller word count and most of all make sure I am leaving room for the art. Being on the other side of publication now, I can attest to the incredible ability illustrators have to bring our words to life while enhancing our stories in ways we could have never imagined. Leaving room for the illustrator is not only polite to the illustrator but a future gift to yourself when you get to open the pages of the book and see their creativity.

I have never made a choice to switch a genre of a WIP while working on it, but I have had the suggestion made to me by critique partners, my agent, and editors. I have a few manuscripts written with an older voice and the suggestion of MG has been tossed my way, but at this moment, I am just not ready to tackle that many words.

Another time a suggestion was made was for Curlilocks and the Three Hares. This was subbed as a picture book manuscript and the marvelous, Michele McAvoy at The Little Press had a vision for it as an early reader in their Modern Fairy-Tale Series. After chatting with Michele and hearing more about the series I decided to give it a go and luckily, it did the trick and Curlilocks and the Three Hares with illustrations by Svetla Radivoeva is now out in the world for kids and families to enjoy!

THE WORLD OF PUBLISHING PRE-PUBLISHED – AGENTS, QUERYING, SUBMISSIONS, RESOURCES

Tell us about your pre-publication journey! Starting back at query trenches/early submissions. When did you begin your professional journey?

I began approaching my writing seriously in 2020. COVID had just hit, and I found myself on leave from work, parenting three young kids who were doing remote schooling. While this was a crazy time and incredibly busy in its own right, I discovered that not being in the classroom gave me the mental capacity I had been lacking to research the writing industry and start to put the legwork into learning the craft and business of publishing.

I began with Twitter kidlit contests which is where I met so many wonderful critique partners and learned so much about myself as a writer and what I wanted to say. It was through these contests that I discovered my voice.

My time in the query trenches was short. I queried one story, which sadly has yet to make it to the published page, to about 15 agents with no bites. Then, my current agent, Dan Cramer, posted a query critique giveaway opportunity that I happened to win. I sent Dan my query and was delighted when along with his feedback, he also offered to read the manuscript. I sent that story off as quickly as I could and was amazed to hear back from Dan with an offer of representation.

While I know my experience was brief and not typical, I always encourage authors to take any and every opportunity for which they have the bandwidth. You can’t count on an experience like this happening, but if you don’t put yourself out there, you are ensuring it doesn’t happen.

-Yes. So true!

“I always encourage authors to take any and every opportunity for which they have the bandwidth… if you don’t put yourself out there, you are ensuring it doesn’t happen.”

Are you currently agented and were you currently agented for your first book deal?

Yes, I am currently agented. Dan Cramer of Page Turner Literary is still my agent, and we have been partnered together for all three of my book sales.

What was your agent experience like for that first book deal? And which book was it?

The first book deal with Dan was wonderful. We sold Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea to Page Street Kids. At that time I was such a newbie, and Dan made me feel at ease asking ALL of the questions. He took time to answer them and walked me through the process in a way that helped me understand this new and foreign side of publishing that I knew absolutely nothing about.

Dan has been my one and only agent. As my agent he researches publishing houses and editors in search of the perfect match for my manuscripts. He handles all negotiations related to our book deals and deals with the communication with the editor at the beginning of the process.

Were there any resources (writing organizations, contests, communities, etc) that were especially helpful in getting you to where you are today, that you’d like to share with aspiring traditional, hybrid, or independent kidlit authors or illustrators reading today?

Fall Writing Frenzy, Vivian Kirkfield’s 50 Precious Words, and Halloweensie are the contests that introduced me to the kidlit community and it is through them that I found a sense of belonging in this industry.

I did join SCBWI early on as well and while I was not the best at accessing all they had to offer, I was able to connect with 2 of my first critique groups as a result.

Also helpful to me along the way were fast drafting events such as First Draft Friday with Hollie Wolverton and Mindy Alyse Weiss’ PBParty Critique Train. Both of these events help motivate me to get new words on the page which can be hard to do with a fulltime job and family.

-Fantastic resources, Andrew. Thanks for sharing!

THE WORLD OF PUBLISHING-POST PUBLISHED- BOOK DEALS, AUTHOR EVENTS, PROMOTION, CONNECTIONS

From the time you started pursuing publication, about how long was your journey to your first published work- and how did that feel? 

It was a four year process from my first draft of my first book until its publication. And while four years is no short time, I completely recognize the years and years that many creators invest before finding the success they are looking for and I feel incredibly fortunate for where I am today.

We're so glad you are where you are today too, Andrew!

For some of our ones just starting to enter this arena, and could use some tips on where to start... could you share some details about your author visits?
What activities do you provide- if any other than a basic read-aloud?
What kind of visits to you offer- virtual, in person, or both?
About how long is your average visit?
What venues do you visit- bookstores/schools/libraries?
And who schedules the visits- do you contact places directly, do they contact you directly, or is this something handled by your publisher/agent?

With three books releasing this past spring I made a concerted effort starting back in the summer and fall of 2023 to begin lining up author visits.

-Smart planning and foresight!

For the most part these have all been organized by me through contacting bookstores, libraries, and schools. There are some publishing houses who will support and assist in booking events, I just happened to choose to take the responsibility on myself.

Bookstore and library visits often last 45 minutes to an hour and include an introduction to the book, reading, a craft/related activity, and then conclude with a signing. My best advice here is to have existing relationships with these places. Long before you have a book out be a patron of your local libraries and indie bookstores. Support events that they have and learn what they have to offer as a result of attending. It is always easier for someone to book you for an event when they have seen you be supportive of others.

My offerings for school visits are a bit different. I book anything from single workshops to half days to whole days, and these can all be virtual or in person.

On my website I have a menu of workshop offerings that a school can choose from. These range from a traditional journey to publication to hands-on workshops on a variety of topics including brainstorming, fairytale writing, poetry, and character design.

-I love the range in variety. What a great way to accommodate different needs and interests.

I prefer to work with groups of one to two classes where we can be interactive and create together rather than them just listening to me.

Being a debut author this year, I found more success in booking author visits when I approached schools with whom I already had a relationship. I also applied and received multiple Cultural Council grants which helped fund a number of local visits.

-What a great idea!

Okay, so what’s your favorite part of the visit and why?


My favorite part of school visits is seeing students become inspired! It is the most amazing feeling to know that your presence and your words have sparked creativity and enthusiasm in them. As authors we know that jolt of excitement we get with a shiny new idea and it's such a privilege to be able to create that for kids.

The other part I love about school visits is being able to reach such a large number of kids in such a short amount of time. I'm used to having an impact on my class of 24 second-graders. This spring alone I've met 100s of kids in K-5 from all sorts of diverse backgrounds.

-Love this!

“My favorite part of school visits is seeing students become inspired! …As authors we know that jolt of excitement we get with a shiny new idea and it’s such a privilege to be able to create that for kids.”

Let’s talk a little about promotion. For newly debuting authors who may not yet have an author and/or illustrator platform built for themselves… where do you recommend starting? Do you have any tips on making connections in the kidlit community as well as your local community?

My biggest advice here is if you go into this industry with altruistic intentions you will receive way more than you bargained for in return. Make connections with creators, support their work, and offer to help each other, but do it all for the sake of connecting on a genuine level with another creator with no expectations of anything in return.

I recommend starting locally. Make a habit of attending author events at your local bookstore and library. Introduce yourself to the workers and guests (I know it feels scary!). Be open that you are an author. You will begin building relationships with these people and before you know it they will be calling you by name. Then when it is your time for books to come out, they will be excited to celebrate with you and support you in any way they can.

-This is such great advice. Yes!

For authors or illustrators who may be early on in their publishing journey… what words of encouragement would you like to share?

If you haven’t heard already, this industry moves at a glacial pace and there is no way to do it (that I have found) without a healthy heaping of rejection. Enter this path knowing these two facts and make choices that make the journey enjoyable. This includes finding your people who uplift and support you as well as learning how you best tackle the highs and lows associated with this career.

“…if you go into this industry with altruistic intentions you will receive way more than you bargained for in return. Make connections with creators, support their work, and offer to help each other, but do it all for the sake of connecting on a genuine level with another creator with no expectations of anything in return.”

“Make a habit of attending author events at your local bookstore and library. Introduce yourself to the workers and guests… Be open that you are an author. You will begin building relationships with these people… Then when it is your time for books to come out, they will be excited to celebrate with you and support you in any way they can.”

BOOKS + RESOURCES + FINAL WORDS OF WISDOM

Okay, we’ve arrived at arguably my favorite part of the interview… and that’s the part where we talk books! I’d love to hear about your stories. What was the inspiration for them? What are your favorite spreads/illustrations and what do you love most about them? And maybe hear a brief description of what each book is about. 

Gush over my book babies? I’d love to! I am so fortunate to have had three books release this year and I love each one and am grateful for the editors, illustrators and countless others behind the scenes that helped bring them to life.

My first book, OLLIE, THE ACORN, AND THE MIGHTY IDEA (Pagestreet Kids) with illustrations by Kaz Windness follows amateur gardener, Ollie Alexander Kandersteen, a boy with a name bigger than he is, as he goes on an absurd and fantastical journey to be as big as a tree in order to stand up to his bully, Everett Lucas Montgomery. Ollie was inspired by my own feelings of smallness as a child, coupled with a summertime discussion with my children about the consequences of swallowing a watermelon seed. I love Ollie because it is a read-aloud through and through. There are refrains for kids to join in with, onomatopoeia, and unexpected antics that cause readers’ mouths to hit the floor.

Ollie has had a quiet reception in the kidlit world, but I am hoping to spread the word to teachers, parents, and librarians to get this humorous book, with a healthy heaping of SEL and messages of acceptance, into as many hands as possible.
My second book, CURLILOCKS AND THE THREE HARES (The Little Press) with illustrations by Jan Dolby follows are title character as she ventures into the Three Hares hair salon in order to take her hair into her own hands and find her just right do’ before picture day. As you can imagine, messes and mistakes ensue before our 3 hares return to find their intruder and her unruly hair. Curlilocks was inspired by my daughter and her dislike for her curls when she was younger. This story is an early, illustrated, chapter book just right for beginning readers to grow their skills and independence. 
Last up is HOPE AND THE SEA (WorthyKids) with illustrations by Svetla Radivoeva. This story follows a young girl, Hope, who is having big feelings of loneliness at the beach. It doesn’t take long for Sea to notice and extend a wave and a welcoming embrace to help Hope on her way to finding friendship and belonging. This story is sweet and lyrical with sentence structure and rhythm to match the changing tide. I grew up by the ocean, and my love for the sea poured into this manuscript. 
Any new books and/or book deals on the horizon?

Yes! On July 9, the spooky middle-grade anthology, THE HAUNTED STATES OF AMERICA will be released from Godwin Books. This is a collection of 52 haunted short stories with one from each state, D.C., and Puerto Rico. In collaboration with SCBWI, Godwin Books put out a call for stories. I am honored to have my story, The Tunnel, included in the anthology representing Massachusetts.

In addition, I do have some secret news about a future publication. However, it is much too soon to discuss any details, so readers will need to stay tuned.

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Okay, so I’ll start by saying that I love, love, love your website. I could get lost all day in the fun educational things you have going on over there. For our readers who may not know (yet) about all the resources you have… could you enlighten us to what you offer on the Educator Resources tab?

*Snippet of Andrew's offerings below...*
Thank you for the kind words about my website. I created it a few years ago using Wix, and then I hired the incredible Molly Ippy, to spruce up the design to make it more professional and cohesive, which she nailed. I cannot recommend her services enough, so if you are in need of a website facelift or educational resources don’t hesitate in reaching out to Molly.
Check out her offerings HERE.

Many of the resources on my website come from my years of teaching and designing curriculum. Much of it is science and engineering based and gives educators a starting place to get their students creating and engaging with science in a hands-on manner.

I do have resources for some of my published books and those will be found under the books tab on my website.

-Download Andrew's FREE educational guide and coloring page for Curlilocks and the Three Hares and/or activity page for Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea on Teacher Corner TODAY!-

Speaking of resources… you don’t just have resources for parents, kids, and educators… you also offer resources for writers, in way of your literary blog, where, just like I’m doing today- you host fellow authors on your blog and talk about the “behind the scenes.” When did you start doing this? And what do you hope readers will gain?

I began The Backstory in 2021. It felt like authors who were gaining traction in the industry had a writing-related side gig going on. I don’t think this is necessarily true, but at that time that was my perspective. When I sat down to brainstorm what I could offer the writing community I landed on my love of learning the inspiration behind things.

-I can definitely relate to that love!

At first my intention was to provide fledgling authors a place to learn about the process and the opportunity to win critiques and AMA calls from published authors. What I didn’t realize at the time was the service I was providing for those published authors of being part of their marketing and promotion.

-Right?! It's so exciting to be a part of that!

Running the blog has provided me a tremendous amount of inspiration and has helped me build my relationships and connections with other authors.

I hope readers can glean little tidbits of knowledge that either encourage, educate, and inspire them along their path to publication.

- I completely echo this. It's so inspiring to talk with other creatives. The interchange of encouragement by way of shared experiences is indescribably valuable. And the connections made are so rewarding.

Any final words of wisdom that you’d like to share with our readers today?

I know this is not new advice, but it is a tidbit I come back to often. When you sit down to write, write for yourself. Don’t stress over rules. Don’t stress over the market. Don’t stress trying to write the manuscript you think your dream agent is looking for. Doing any or all of these things will lead you astray from who YOU are as a writer. Don’t lose yourself for someone else’s vision. Write authentically who you are in your voice. When your book gets made you will be so grateful that you represented your true self!

Such beautiful advice to end on. Thank you so much for joining us today, Andrew.

“When you sit down to write, write for yourself. Don’t stress over rules. Don’t stress over the market… Don’t lose yourself for someone else’s vision. Write authentically who you are in your voice. When your book gets made you will be so grateful that you represented your true self!”

And now…
It’s time for the GIVEAWAY!

For the month of July, Andrew Hacket is offering the following giveaway prizes to three winners- 1 prize awarded to each winner.

  • Fiction, picture book (non rhyming) manuscript critique
  • 30-minute Zoom AMA
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Andrew Hacket is the author of Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea (Page Street Kids, 4/9/24), Curlilocks and the Three Hares (The Little Press, 5/1/24), and Hope and the Sea (Worthy Kids, 5/28/24). Andrew recognizes that being a kid is hard, and he writes to create ways for children to see themselves in stories and characters, to accept and overcome their insecurities, or to escape for just a little while through the power of their imaginations. He and his family live in Massachusetts.

JUNE 19TH, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR SUSAN LUBNER, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN, CHELSEA DICICCO

Today, I’m talking with children’s book author Susan Lubner. We’ll discuss writing across genres, the creative process, and how to find a critique group. 

But before we jump into our interview, if this is your first time visiting the blog, here’s the scoop on Feature Interviews.

THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?

Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.

Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.

What can these interviews offer YOU?

These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:

  • stay current with market trends
  • hook an agent or editor
  • find writing community & other resources
  • discover workshops, contests, and other events
  • figure out which path of publication is right for you
  • know if your agent is a good match

And more!

AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month! *If you’re interested in entering the giveaway, scroll to the bottom of the interview for instructions.*

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

THE VERY BEGINNING: PAVING A PATH TO PUBLISHING JOURNEY

Welcome to the blog, Susan! It’s so nice to have you with us today. The first thing I like to ask my guests is: how they ended up in kidlit publishing.

Let’s take that question into three parts: when, why, and how.
When did your journey to publishing begin?


Hi Chelsea! Thank you so much for inviting me here today 😊

I think the path to publication really started when I was a young girl…long before I was ever aware of it! I enjoyed reading so much and writing short poems, too. My love of words and story were the seeds planted early on that would eventually lead to my career in writing for children. But the turning point was when I was in college. I took my first creative writing class and I was encouraged by my professor to submit some of my work. I did, and two fiction stories were published in a collegiate magazine. I think that gave me a boost of confidence. But it also made me realize how much I enjoyed the process of writing. And that it was something I wanted to continue and hone.
Let’s touch on the why. What was the inspiration that led you here?
Is writing something you’ve always wanted to pursue, or were there other variables that brought you down this path? Explain.


What led me finally to a career in writing children’s books, happened pretty organically. But in a nutshell, it really stemmed from a renewed love and awe of children’s picture books. After college I continued writing short fiction and taking an occasional class or workshop. Writing for children wasn’t something I had considered or even thought about pursuing until after I had my first child. My daughter and I were reading a lot of picture books. I was reminded how much I enjoyed those books! And at that point I had a new perspective, not just because I was now reading from the point of view as an adult, but also as someone who enjoyed writing. I became very aware and curious about the craft. The pairing of text with illustrations. The cadence of sentences, and the idea of writing a complete story using so few words. Then one day in 1995, my daughter was two and we were in a bookstore. I saw a poster advertising a writing for children workshop. I signed up, and I’ve been writing children’s stories ever since.


That question leads nicely into our third which involves the how. How did you end up here in the kidlit arena?

That children’s writing workshop was the portal! It was taught by author Jacqueline Dembar Greene who became my mentor. All of us in that workshop were unpublished and newbies to the world of children’s publishing. And boy did we have a lot to learn. Several of the other members of the workshop and I formed a critique group. Three of us, (plus one other author who joined later on) are still critique partners …since the mid 90’s! Also at that workshop, I met Beth Raisner Glass. Beth had a manuscript she had been working on. At the time, I was very focused on writing stories that rhymed. She asked if I wanted to help her with her story which she was working to set in rhyme. Together we revised a new version of Noises at Night which eventually was published by Abrams Books for Young Readers.


What type of publishing did you pursue? (Traditional/hybrid/independent?) And why?

In the beginning I knew so little about how to get published that I wasn’t even aware that one could self-publish! I was told to get a copy of the Children’s Writer’s & Illustrator’s Market which I did. It was also suggested to me that I try getting my stories published in children’s magazine’s too, like Highlights and Cricket. So my focus was always on the traditional route.


For our readers who may be new to publishing and don’t know the differences between these routes, could you briefly touch on what makes them different, as well as the pros and cons of each?

I don’t have any experience with hybrid or independent publishing and have not stayed current so I don’t have a lot of specific advice to offer to anyone who is taking that route nor can I speak confidently on that process. But generally, I can say that regardless of which route to publication is taken, there are so many wonderful resources that every writer can tap into to help them on their journey to publication.

Joining a writer’s critique group is invaluable! It helps enormously to have the feedback needed to get your stories really polished and ready for submission.

SCBWI offers opportunities to network, access to workshops, and the conferences are a great way to find the resources and support needed to help on the path to publication.

One of the things I have valued most from being traditionally published is the support from the amazing marketing departments at each publishing house. Marketing and selling your book is hard so, even though I have always done as much marketing and publicity on my own with each book launch, to have that support from a marketing and sales department from a publishing house too, is a valuable boost.

One of the things about traditional publishing that could fall in the con column is that it’s very difficult to get published with one. I have many manuscripts that have been rejected over the course of my career. It happens a lot! And I suppose that example of one of the downsides to traditional publishing highlights one of the awesome pros of self-publishing…that a writer has control of what gets published!

“Regardless of which route to publication is taken, there are so many wonderful resources that every writer can tap into to help them on their journey to publication.”

“Joining a writer’s critique group is invaluable! It helps enormously to have the feedback needed to get your stories really polished and ready for submission.”

“SCBWI offers opportunities to network, access to workshops, and the conferences are a great way to find the resources and support needed to help on the path to publication.”

Can you tell us a little bit about your querying/submission journey?

Things have changed so much since I started submitting my work. Back in the “olden days”, (ha!), when I was first starting out, snail mail was how the submission process worked. Prior to sending anything out, I was very careful to read as much as I could about how to submit a story. I learned how to format my manuscript and how to format a submission letter, too. Using the Children’s Writer’s & Illustrator’s Market I made lists of which publishers were accepting unsolicited manuscripts (I did not have an agent at that time) and also which publishers were accepting simultaneous submissions, and which were not.

I have a very thick folder full of the many rejections I have received over the years. The first story I ever submitted was called The Ladybug. It was rejected many times until one day in 1998 I received an acceptance letter. My very first! I only got halfway through the letter when I cried and jumped up and down and did all the things I thought I would do if I ever got a story accepted! Then I read the rest of the letter. And again I cried. Because the letter went on to explain that even though they had accepted my story for publication (they wanted me to know that!), they had also made the unfortunate decision to move away from publishing children’s books!

- Oh, what an emotional roller coaster that must have been!-

It would be five years later that I would finally sell my very first story to Spider Magazine. Ironically, that first magazine story I sold took a long time to be published. It ended up coming out after the first book I sold (Noises at Night co-authored with Beth Raisner Glass ABRAMS 2005).

I got the awesome news that I sold my first picture book on April Fool's Day in 2004 so I had to wait a whole day to tell everyone so they would believe me!

- How funny! And exciting.-

That submission process was really unique. Noises at Night had come very close to being acquired at a very big house. Unfortunately, in the end, there wasn’t a total consensus and it was rejected. However, one of the editors was moving to Abrams and asked our permission to take the manuscript there. She loved the story, and we were fortunate that it found a home. Timing can sometimes play a very important role in whether something gets acquired or not.

Two more picture books followed but the submission process was much easier for me as my editor at Abrams asked to see other manuscripts, and so just a few emails were exchanged before I had an offer on my second picture book. My third picture book was a work-for-hire. Again, my editor at Abrams asked if I would be interested in working on the project and I said yes.

By the time my third picture book was out, I was about ready to start submitting my first middle-grade novel, The Upside of Ordinary. After making a lot of rounds and many rejections later, my critique partner suggested I submit it to a former student of hers who worked at Holiday House as an assistant editor. Fortunately, she really loved it as did the publisher!

-How wonderful!-

I’ve had a pretty eclectic experience when it comes to submissions! One thing has always been consistent though, and that is the road to publication is filled with twists and turns and lots of bumps!


Are you currently agented, and if so, how did you find your agent match? (Was it through cold query/submission, was it during a contest, etc.?)

I do work with an agent who I adore. At one of my writer’s group meetings, I shared a funny picture book that they really enjoyed. One of the members of my group had recently seen a post on a particular agent’s blog who was asking to see humorous picture books. I submitted the manuscript to her. It never did sell but we are still working together almost 11 years and three books later.


If comfortable sharing what agent/agency did you sign with?

Linda Epstein who at the time was with an agency in New York but moved to the Emerald City Literary Agency and I went with her.


For writers and illustrators who are actively querying for their agent match, could you tell us about your agent call and what to expect?

My agency query in this particular instance, was very specific in the approach. The post Linda had made on her blog, requesting to see humorous picture books had instructions on how to send a manuscript. I followed those instructions and attached the manuscript right in that first email as directed. She responded pretty quickly and asked to see other manuscripts which I sent back to her right away.


What types of questions do you find more useful to ask during this call?

One of the first questions I asked Linda when we discussed working together is if she offered editorial feedback. For me, it was very important to have an agent that also could (and would be willing) to provide feedback and suggestions for edits. I think all writers benefit from a second (or third or fourth!) pair of eyes! Especially before something is to head out on submission.

-Such a great thing to look for in an agent. And wonderful that you knew beforehand what you were specifically looking for.-

Which leads to a second question I think is important: Does the agent submit only exclusively or will he or she submit to multiple publishers all at once. I have heard of agents that will only send out a manuscript to one single publisher at a time even if that publisher will accept simultaneous submissions. That is a process that would not appeal to me, as it often takes so long to hear back from editors.

-Another great thing to know before signing with an agent.-

Asking questions up front before you commit to an agent is important. It’s very exciting to receive an offer from an agent but you want to make sure that the writer and agent are compatible and share similar expectations so that hopefully the relationship is a good fit. Talk to agented writer friends, too. See what their experience has been like and figure out what is important to you regarding a relationship with an agent before you make that choice.

-Love this advice, Susan. So great!-


How did you know which agent/agency was the right match for you?

I could tell from our email exchanges that Linda is accessible and responsive (she ALWAYS answers her emails quickly), straightforward, and very honest, the latter meaning if she doesn’t know the answer to something she says so, and will try to find out. Linda is funny, kind and approachable. All great qualities. And all of these things came across in the early days of email exchanges.

I also had a history with two other agents prior to signing with Linda. Those agents were also very kind and both of those relationships ended amicably. But everyone has different expectations and ways of doing things, and it’s not about whether someone is good or bad but more about whether a particular agent is the right fit for you.

-Yes, exactly! I think you put that perfectly. It's about finding the "right fit." Just like any relationship, it's about knowing what you want, what your expectations are of each other, then communicating it clearly- which it sounds like you did by the questions you asked- and overall, those factors will show you whether you're compatible or not.-


For people considering traditional publication as their route to publishing, could you briefly describe an agent’s role/relationship with an author and/or illustrator and some of the benefits of having one?

Everything I write, Linda sees and provides feedback before the submission process, so my manuscript is very polished and is in the best shape possible (or at least until an editor asks for revisions!) Linda then puts together and shares with me a list of publishers she will be submitting to. The great thing about working with Linda is that she knows which editors are looking for what and so the submission process becomes very targeted. Having someone do all this legwork for you really frees up so much more time for me to focus on my writing which is a great benefit.

-Linda sounds like a dream agent! And you sound like a dream client, because you're a clear communicator. That's so helpful!-

Another benefit is that there are many traditional publishers that will only look at work from agented authors so having an agent helps to get your manuscript in front of more editors. That of course is a plus because the more people who get a chance to consider your manuscript, the better your chances are (hopefully!) of getting an offer.

A third great benefit is that I do not have to deal with the business side of publishing. Linda handles all of the negotiations and contract issues, and I am so grateful for that!

HIGHS, LOWS, AND WORDS OF WISDOM

We on the blog LOVE hearing all the wonderful, exciting bits of publishing. But sometimes, hearing the realities of the lows can be helpful too. 

What have been some challenges you’ve faced on the road to publishing?
And how were you able to overcome these challenges?

I’m dealing with a challenge I’ve never experienced before, right now. I have worked with the most wonderful editor on my new early reader chapter book series Drag and Rex, beautifully illustrated by Blythe Russo. The first book, Drag and Rex Forever Friends, launched in November of 2023 and went into a second printing a few months ago so it’s done quite well. The second book in the series Drag and Rex Sweet and Silly launches in November of 2024.

Here’s the challenge: the imprint that published Drag and Rex is changing its focus completely and going forward they will not be publishing anymore of their list. That means that I will not be working with my editor and my books will be under a different imprint. This creates a lot of unknowns!

Will the new editor love the series as much as the other editor?
Is the threshold for sales higher at this imprint?
Will they want more books in the series?

My agent has been communicating with the editor at the other imprint (who I have actually worked with before and is lovely!) but no matter what, right now there are still a lot of unknowns. It’s a wait-and-see.

I am hoping the second book does very well and the series will continue! That’s the best way for me to deal with this unexpected challenge…to hope for the best and to do everything I can to help the book sell very well so the new imprint wants to continue the series.


Any words of wisdom for illustrators or authors who may be facing similar challenges?

Writers don’t have a lot of control when it comes to publishing decisions and unexpected challenges. But we can control our work. I think a great way to handle these stressful unpredictable curveballs is to get back to what we do best…writing! And of course, always hope for the best.

I think a great way to handle these stressful unpredictable curveballs is to get back to what we do best…writing! And of course, always hope for the best.

BEHIND THE WRITER’S DESK: WRITING ACROSS GENRES & CREATIVE PROCESS

Let’s talk a bit about the magic that happens behind the writer’s desk. I know you write across genres. Tell us about that. What does writing across genres entail?

I really enjoy writing different types of stories. Each type of story involves a writing process that is different…not in just topic, or target but technique, too. Writing picture books I am always mindful that my story will be illustrated and so the marriage of art and words must be considered; as do page turn and word count. Writing middle-grade novels involves multiple storylines that are more complicated and layered. That is true of MG characters too. My characters in my middle-grade books of course have more mature and complicated problems than my picture book characters. The early reader writing experience for me I used a bit of both PB and MG techniques! I had to consider the illustrations when I wrote Drag and Rex, but I could be a bit more relaxed about word count. I think what draws me to writing a specific type of book is influenced by what I happen to be reading at the time. Early in my career, I read a lot of picture books. I was reading piles and piles of them first to my children but then also because I just loved reading them so much. As my kids got older and were reading chapter books…I did too. Now they are 31 and almost 28! But I still love reading children’s books.


What are some of the pros and cons of writing across genres?

What advice do you have for writers who are interested in pursuing writing in different areas of kidlit (magazines, middle grade, chapter books, early readers, picture books, etc.)?

I think it’s important and helpful to read the genre or type of book that you are writing. If you are writing a middle-grade novel, then read middle-grade novels. If you are writing YA, read YA books. If you are working on a mystery, read mysteries! There are so many great authors who inspire me, and I love to think about their style and technique and try to figure out what it is I like (or on occasion what I don’t like) about a particular voice or storyline and analyze what makes it work so well.

Do you have any tips on techniques for writing across genres as well as how to shift gears and mindset from one genre to the next? Explain.

Usually when I write, no matter the genre or type of book I am working on, I always start with a character. My storyline (or lines) develop from my characters. For example, in my latest book Drag and Rex Forever Friends illustrated by Blythe Russo, each character has a very distinct (and extinct!!!) personality. Drag is a dragon who is a bit scatterbrained, a little messy, and very impulsive. Those character traits helped me to develop storylines that involve gobbling up a cake before it can be delivered to a friend, and accidentally, ALMOST ruining a very snowy day.

Using that technique of developing my characters first, and therefore getting to know them helps me to develop the plotlines in my stories. It doesn’t matter what kind of book I’m writing because each story always needs a character (or two or three or more) and my stories always develop from the characters I create.

I will also reiterate what I mentioned above and that is to read whatever type of book you are writing. If you are writing a picture book, read picture books. Note the books you really loved and what it was about the style, or tone, or cadence that made it so appealing.

AUTHOR VISITS

Have you been able to have any author visits? If so, what kind of visit was it (school/library/bookstore, etc)? 

This year because it was a launch year, I did a lot of events at bookstores, libraries, book fairs, conferences, and even a couple of events at a bakery. All of my school visits this year were virtual and took place over World Read Aloud Day (but all week long) I had a terrific book launch last November at Wellesley Books with one of my critique partners, author Anna Staniszewski moderating. I really enjoyed that format and it was a packed house!


What kind of response did you receive?

For the most part most of my events went very well and I had some good turnouts. But even if an event isn’t very busy, I’m always grateful to have an audience big or small to read to. I so appreciate all of the support from so many enthusiastic booksellers, librarians and teachers, and of course the readers and students are awesome!


What’s your favorite part of a visit?

I do love engaging with readers and I especially love the Q & A portion of a visit. Kids are so incredibly curious and smart. And oftentimes they will tell me what they have been reading or about stories they have written.


About how long is a visit and what kind of routine do you have?

Most of my visits are about an hour to an hour and a half. Typically the event starts off with a reading followed by an activity and then a book signing.


Do you offer any freebies or promo swag?

I always have plenty of bookmarks to hand out and lately some Drag and Rex stickers


For authors or illustrators who may be debuting and not quite sure how to set up these visits or what to do when there, could you share a little bit about the process of how you arrange your visits? Do you reach out to schools/libraries/bookstores- does your agent/editor- or do they reach out to you directly?


It’s a bit of all of that! I've been doing this for a while so I have several booksellers and librarians that I'm very comfortable reaching out to to set up an event. I think it’s always helpful to consider the timing of the event of course…

For example for picture books and early readers, scheduling a visit during a bookseller’s regular story time is an advantage as usually there's an audience or a regular group that comes to those events every week, and so you have a chance of already having a nice turnout.

Middle-grade readers can be trickier as readers that age tend to have very busy schedules. In the past I have teamed up with other authors to do book signing tours…having a group of authors at one event can add a bit more buzz and help create a lot of excitement.

There are also times when the publicity manager from my publisher will organize an event for me. Often it will be at a conference, or sometimes at a bookstore where the bookseller has reached out looking to host an event with an author.


Do you have any tips for an author and/or illustrator’s first visit?

With library or bookstore visits, I always try to create more of an event rather than just an author reading (not that reading isn’t exciting on its own of course, but making the appearance sound a bit like a party helps to add to the excitement!)

For example, at one library event over winter break we had a winter fun theme which tied in with one of the story themes in my new early reader chapter book, Drag and Rex Forever Friends. We served hot chocolate and incorporated an activity.

Other events were friendship-themed “parties” which included making friendship bracelets after a reading; at one bookstore we hosted a pajama party…I wore mine with my slippers and readers were invited to show up in theirs for a bedtime story. For both Drag and Rex and Lizzy and the Good Luck Girl I have done several very well-attended events at a local bakery. After my reading, the kids toured the bakery and then decorated either a cake or brownie that was tied in with a storyline.

One of my favorite events was after Lizzy and the Good Luck Girl first came out. That book has a subplot that involves the main character and her best friend knitting sweaters for cats to raise money for the animal shelter where they volunteer. (You can guess how that turns out…trying to put a sweater on a cat!) In the end, they knit blankets instead. I did an event at a library where everyone made little patchwork blankets and donated them to the local animal shelter. The shelter volunteers even showed up at the library, and the local paper did a story about it so I received an extra boost of publicity.

Be creative and have fun! Think about the themes in your book and how they might tie in with a particular event.

Now it’s time for BOOKS!

BOOKS, BOOKS, BOOKS!

We’d love to hear about some of your books; from the first concept and inspiration to the final product.

I had actually written the first version of Drag and Rex Forever Friends more than ten years ago. I have always loved the simple storylines in early readers, making soup or raking leaves. I am a huge fan of Arnold Lobel’s Frog and Toad, and James Marshall’s George and Martha and was inspired by these lovely books.

Drag and Rex started out as Bitsy and Mo and then a host of other names. I had no idea who these characters were supposed to be…a dog and a cat? A rabbit and mouse? They were constantly changing. But I had written two of the stories (though a few details changed once I figured out that they were to be a dragon and T-rex!) and then they sat untouched in a file drawer until the Covid quarantine. I took out the stories, did a bit of tweaking and sent them to my agent. She loved them even though we still didn’t know who the characters were. I decided to set aside trying to figure out who I wanted them to be and thought about instead, who would kids want them to be? And that was how they became Drag and Rex. Alison Weiss at Pixel + Ink fell in love with these two. The process for finding an illustrator took a very long time…there were actual auditions! Blythe Russo nailed it! Shetruly understood the essence of these two buddies. It was so exciting to see how she brought the pair to life!


Do you have any favorite illustrative spreads? If so, which and why?

There are so many it’s hard to pick just one but I guess if I have to…this one is really extra special. It was one of the first illustrations I saw when the book was in production and I just love how Blythe Russo so perfectly depicted these three friends about to share this yummy carrot cake!
If you had to describe in one sentence what inspires you on a daily basis to pursue writing as a career… what motivates you to put your thoughts and heart on the line and share it with others… what would it be? 

I think I can actually say it in one word: Stories. I love to read, write, and listen to them. I’m so grateful to be a part of this creative kidlit world!


What have been some of your most meaningful or fulfilling projects and what makes them so special to you?

Each project has had its joys and frustrations. But I think writing Lizzy and the Good Luck girl taught me one of the most important lessons as a writer…and that is… to dig really deep into your main character. To find out what it is your character really wants. For me getting to the heart of my character meant getting to the heart of my story.


What do you hope others will take away from your books?

I hope readers just enjoy the story. Maybe laugh or feel touched in some way. I never write with the intention to provide a lesson.


Anything special you’d like to share with us today that we may not know?

The second book in the Drag and Rex series, Sweet and Silly (illustrated by Blythe Russo) will be out in the fall of 2024!


What final words of wisdom would you like to share with your readers?

Love what you do, be passionate about your writing and be persistent! All else will fall into place! Remember that there’s always something to learn, too no matter what stage of your career you are at. And finally, the best bit of advice I ever got (I am so sorry I can’t remember where I read it!!!) And that is: allow yourself to write badly. That was a stumbling block for me…that I would type something out then erase it and rewrite and rewrite until I thought it was perfect. That’s ok to do that too once in a while! But some days allow yourself to just write…and keep going no matter how awful you think it is, magic can happen if you don’t stifle the process.

Thank you so much for joining us today, Susan.
And now…
It’s time for a GIVEAWAY!

Susan Lubner is offering the following giveaway prizes: (one prize PER winner )

Prize 1: A signed copy of Drag and Rex Forever Friends

Prize 2: A 20-minute virtual visit with the book.

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BOOKS

Drag and Rex: Forever Friends

Drag and Rex: Sweet and Silly

Lizzy and the Good Luck Girl

The Upside of Ordinary

BIO

Susan Lubner grew up in Bangor, Maine but has lived in Massachusetts for most of her life.  She is the author of the early reader chapter book series from Pixel + Ink, Drag and Rex Forever Friends (book 1 fall 2023) and Sweet and Silly (book 2 fall 2024) illustrated by Blythe Russo; two middle grade novels, Lizzy and the Good Luck Girl (Running Press Kids/Hachette Books 2018); and The Upside of Ordinary (Holiday House 2012) and three picture books (Abrams Books for Young Readers 2005, 2006, 2008).  Her stories have appeared in Spider Magazine and Highlights for Children. Susan lives with her husband David and a giant poodle named Bailey. They have two grown daughters. 

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Barnes & Noble Book Signing in Bowling Green KY, With Children’s Author & Librarian, Chelsea DiCicco

Hello everyone! I'm thrilled to announce I'll be visiting the Bowling Green Barnes and Noble, located at 1680 Campbell Ln, Bowling Green, Ky 42104 on Saturday, July 8th from 1 PM- 4 PM, for an author book signing. If you live locally and would like to stop by, I'd love to connect with you! 

In addition to the book signing, I'll be bringing all sorts of fun giveaway prizes, freebies, and goody bags. 

Freebies:
💙 lollipops 
💙 word searches/spot the difference worksheets 
💙 lesson plans grades k-3rd 
💙 family resource packets with websites, book recommendations, and tips for neurodiverse families.

NO PURCHASES REQUIRED


Goody Bundles:
💜 Semigloss laminated bookmark 
💜 Free author autograph 
💜 Special edition "believe in yourself" stickers 
💜 Special release ADHD AND ME coloring book 
💜 Packet of crayons 

FREE WITH THE PURCHASE OF BOOK ADHD AND ME, DAY OF SIGNING, AT BARNES AND NOBLE. SIMPLY BRING YOUR RECEIPT TO THE SIGNING TABLE TO CLAIM YOUR GOODY BUNDLE!

Prize Drawing:
Interested in winning prizes? Post a review of ADHD AND ME to Barnes & Noble website: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/adhd-and-me-chelsea-dicicco/1143058981?ean=9780997933413 (AND/OR post a picture of the book, ADHD AND ME to your Instagram, tagging @chelseasworldofbooks account), the day of the signing and claim your prize drawing slip from the signing table! The winner will be selected at random from the first 10 participants!

Please note: if your Instagram account is set to private, tagging will not work, so make sure to leave a review of the book to claim your drawing slip for a chance to win the giveaway prize!