JULY 16TH, 2025 FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH INDIE CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR, RENEE BOLLA, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & FORMER LIBRARIAN, CHELSEA DICICCO: WHY SELF-PUBLISHING WORKS AND WHERE TO START

In today’s Feature Interview, indie children’s book author Renee Bolla opens up about her transition from a 20-year career in the corporate fashion world into kidlit publishing. She offers insight and tips on self-publishing, important first steps, what she wishes she had known earlier, and explains why indie publishing was the right route for her.

Renee, it’s so wonderful to have you here with us! Could you tell us where you’re joining us from today?

Birmingham, MI.

How did you hear about Chelsea’s World of Books Literary Blog and the Feature Interview segment?

I first connected with Chelsea’s World of Books on Instagram. It was one of those organic, mutual-follow moments where I immediately felt a sense of kinship as a fellow author, writer, and someone who cares deeply about community. I’m drawn to people who are building something authentic and inclusive, and that’s exactly what I felt when I landed in your literary world.

– Aw, I love this! I’m so glad you felt that connection. That’s definitely the feeling I want to impart to people visiting my page.

You mentioned in your bio that you transitioned from fashion retail to writing for kids. I’d love to hear how that came about! What led you to publishing? And when did your publishing journey begin?

Twenty years in corporate fashion retail taught me a lot, but it also came with its share of constraints. I grew up in a world of red tape and polished decks, where creativity was only applauded if it checked all the boxes. I spent years being the “do-it-all” working mom, managing a $2B business by day and raising three young kids at home. On the surface, it looked like I had it all together. Inside, I was exhausted. Disconnected.

“I grew up in a world of red tape and polished decks, where creativity was only applauded if it checked all the boxes… On the surface, it looked like I had it all together. Inside, I was exhausted. Disconnected.” -Renee Bolla

Then came the fall of 2020. Another busy morning on autopilot, lemon water in hand, makeup on, getting the girls ready, logging into Zoom, and yet something felt different. My gut had been whispering for years that something had to change, but I kept pushing it down. Until one day, I finally listened. I resigned after two decades in corporate. And while the decision was empowering, it also felt like a loss. I grieved that version of me. But in the stillness that followed, I found space to imagine a new version of myself.

– What an honest way of putting it. I can only imagine the emotions and thought process involved in this decision. It takes great courage to make big changes, especially if it’s been your way of life for a number of years, and you’re embarking on unfamiliar territory.

I didn’t leap into publishing with a full manuscript or a business plan. I started with stillness, with letting myself feel (thanks, Dad, for this advice). And from that quiet space, ideas started pouring in. My daughters became my muses. I found myself dreaming up stories rooted in our everyday lives. And before I knew it, the next chapter of my life began. I just had to be brave enough to embrace it.

I self-published my first picture book, Finding Bunny, in early 2022, with Imagine That following late 2022, and my latest book, The Truth About Stepmoms, in early 2024. One for each of my daughters.

“I didn’t leap into publishing with a full manuscript or a business plan. I started with stillness, with letting myself feel (thanks, Dad, for this advice). And from that quiet space, ideas started pouring in.” – Renee Bolla

What kind of genres do you write in and for what age groups? 

I write children’s picture books, primarily for readers between the ages of 4 and 9. Picture books were a natural entry point for me. When I started this journey, my daughters were 2, 7, and 10, and our home was overflowing with stories (still are). Some books had been passed down for over a decade, and a few were even from my childhood, specifically The Monster at the End of This Book. This was the story my dad read to me at bedtime during his weekends, and it still holds a place in my heart. Sharing those pages with my girls, seeing the same characters come to life for them that once lit up my imagination, felt full circle. 

There’s something magical about picture books. I love how they create space for shared reading moments between kids and adults. They spark questions, curiosity, and conversations that linger. That’s the kind of storytelling I want to offer, heartfelt and rooted in connection.

-YES!!! This sums it up perfectly, and I couldn’t agree more!

There’s something magical about picture books. I love how they create space for shared reading moments between kids and adults. They spark questions, curiosity, and conversations that linger. That’s the kind of storytelling I want to offer, heartfelt and rooted in connection.” – Renee Bolla

What made you decide to go the independent route, and do you think you’ll continue indie publishing route or eventually pursue traditional? Explain.

I came into publishing at a time when self-publishing was being embraced rather than dismissed, and that changed everything for me. I knew right away that I wanted to self-publish. I wanted full creative control over every detail of the story and the illustrations. I wanted my daughters to see themselves in my stories, and not just metaphorically. I also didn’t want to wait years for someone else to decide those stories were worthy of being told.

“I knew right away that I wanted to self-publish. I wanted full creative control over every detail of the story and the illustrations. I also didn’t want to wait years for someone else to decide those stories were worthy of being told.” -Renee Bolla

Self-publishing gave me the freedom to move on my own timeline. I could publish while my girls were still young enough to curl up next to me and see their reflections on the page. That window of time felt too sacred to miss.

“Self-publishing gave me the freedom to move on my own timeline.” -Renee Bolla

That said, I’m not opposed to traditional publishing in the future. I believe there’s room for both in a writer’s journey. But for now, indie publishing fits me. It’s nimble, empowering, and has allowed me to build a business that reflects my values and vision from the inside out.

-Beautifully put!

Tell us more about your indie journey! What were some of the steps involved in getting your foot in the door for this new, exciting venture?!

This is a big question. Where do I begin? Publishing was a whole new world for me. I had so many questions in the beginning, more than I can count. But what surprised and uplifted me most was how welcoming the writing community was. I started reaching out to anyone willing to share their experience. I asked a lot of questions. And people responded with openness, encouragement, and generosity. That support became the foundation for everything I would build next.

-Questions are a great place to start! And yes, the kidlit community really is such a warm and inviting place.

I joined the 12×12 Picture Book Challenge and became a member of SCBWI. I participated in critique groups and learned to embrace feedback, even when it stung. I followed writers and illustrators on social media, watched webinars, and read books like Writing Picture Books by Ann Whitford Paul, anything to move my writing journey forward. I even took workshops through the Highlights Foundation, which helped me grow both as a writer and a storyteller.

-These are all great first steps. Asking questions. Joining writing groups. Participating. Embracing feedback (this one is hard at first, but CRUCIAL for growth as a writer). Expanding your writing circles. Webinars, books, and workshops- all fantastic.

Every connection I made along the way mattered. Each conversation, critique, or workshop taught me something I didn’t know the day before. And I can’t forget the unwavering support of my family, they were right beside me, cheering me on, reading early drafts, and reminding me to keep going when imposter syndrome crept in.

The biggest step? Hitting publish for the first time. It was terrifying, thrilling, and deeply rewarding. That moment marked not just the release of a book but the beginning of a new chapter I never knew I was meant to write.

What’s something you wish you had known earlier about that you’d like to share with readers who may be considering self-publishing?

That you don’t have to do it all, and you don’t have to do it all at once.

When I first started, I thought I had to have every detail mapped out, from an airtight marketing plan, polished website, and a full social presence, before even whispering that I was writing a book. I spent too much time trying to get it all “just right” and not enough time simply sharing the journey.

If I could go back and tell myself one thing, it would be: Start talking about your book early. Let people in. Share the process, the why, the messy middle. Build community around your story before it’s released. You don’t need a finished product to start creating connection.

I also wish I hadn’t listened to imposter syndrome quite so much. That voice in your head that says, Who am I to do this?, is loud at the beginning. But the truth is, no one else can tell your story the way you can. Your voice matters, even when it shakes.

You will make mistakes. You will learn things the hard way. But you will also grow, build confidence, and create something real. And that’s more important than perfect.

If I could go back and tell myself one thing, it would be: Start talking about your book early. Let people in. Share the process, the why, the messy middle. Build community around your story before it’s released. You don’t need a finished product to start creating connection.” -Renee Bolla

What are some challenges you’ve faced, and how have you been able to overcome them?

One of my biggest challenges has been unlearning perfectionism. After two decades in the corporate world, I was conditioned to believe that success meant flawless execution. That every decision needed to be backed by data, every step reviewed, and every mistake avoided at all costs. But the creative process doesn’t work that way. It’s messy. Vulnerable. And deeply human.

Letting go of the pressure to do it “right” the first time was, and still is, an ongoing journey for me. I had to learn to take imperfect action. To publish, promote, and pivot without having all the answers. That’s terrifying when you’re used to operating in a world of forecasts and performance reviews.

Another challenge has been visibility. As an indie author, you wear every hat: writer, marketer, publicist, distributor. Getting my books into readers’ hands takes consistent effort and creative thinking. But I’ve found success by leaning into what I value most, connection. Whether it’s school visits, community events, or author meet-ups, the more I connect with real people, the more meaningful my journey becomes.

What have been some of your greatest moments and highlights in Kidlit Publishing?

Hands down, one of the most unforgettable moments was watching my daughters hold my book for the first time. Seeing their faces light up as they flipped through the pages, pointing out characters who looked like them and moments pulled from our real lives, it was surreal. That moment alone reminded me why I started this journey in the first place.

I’ve also been honored to receive recognition for my latest picture book, The Truth About Stepmoms. It was named an Editor’s Pick by BookLife by Publishers Weekly, received a 2024 Honorable Mention from Writer’s Digest for self-published books, and was selected as a 2024 Females of Fiction Winner. It also earned Best in Genre – Children’s Humor from Indies Today and was recognized by the Independent Author Network. Each of these honors has been incredibly affirming, especially knowing how much heart went into telling a story that challenges stereotypes and celebrates blended families.

But honestly, the real highlight is hearing from readers. When a parent messages me to say, “My child asked to read your book again tonight,” or sends me a picture of their child reading my book, it truly touches my heart every single time. That’s the kind of legacy I want to leave.

What is your “why” for writing? 

Writing has always been how I process the world, how I hold onto fleeting moments, and make sense of life’s curveballs. But at its heart, my why is deeply rooted in motherhood. My daughters are my muses, my motivation, and the spark behind every story I write. I want my girls to grow up knowing that their voices matter and that who they are is something to be celebrated.

So, for me, writing is a way of leaving breadcrumbs of love behind, tiny pieces of myself woven into words. These are the stories I hope they’ll return to as they grow, stories that make them laugh, wonder, feel brave, and remember exactly who they are and where they come from.

What does writing bring you, and what do you hope your stories offer others?

Writing is my creative sanctuary. It’s the one space where I can be fully myself, honest, imperfect, intuitive, and curious. It gives me permission to slow down, reflect, and turn the everyday into something meaningful.

My hope is that my stories offer children and families a safe space to feel. Growing up, emotions weren’t always discussed or validated. As a parent now, I see how critical it is to name feelings, to talk about hard things, and to normalize the ups and downs of life. That’s what I try to bring into every story: heart, honesty, and a whole lot of love.

If even one child feels comforted or finds joy in something I’ve written, then I’ve done what I came here to do.

What are some positive experiences you’ve had from readers?

I’ve had kids and parents come up to me at events and say they read my book at bedtime every single night. I’ve had parents send me videos of their child giving a five-star review with the biggest smile on their face. I’ve received photos of little ones being gifted my book or snuggled up reading it at night. Every time I start to question why I do this or when I feel exhausted by the never-ending to-do list that comes with writing, publishing, and promoting, one of these moments lands in my inbox and reminds me exactly why I started.

Sometimes, it’s my daughters who bring me back to center. When they tell me how cool it is that their mom is an author, or when they want to join me at a book event and share their stories too, those moments stop me in my tracks. Just writing about it makes me tear up. It’s truly something special.

Outside of publishing your books, you’re also very active in the Kidlit/literacy community. I’d love to hear more about your groups and projects. Let’s start with your A Pop of Indie: A Traveling Book Fair. What’s it all about? When was it founded? And what inspired it?

I co-founded A Pop of Indie in fall 2023 with fellow indie kidlit author Lindsay Gizicki. It’s Michigan’s first traveling book fair made up entirely of independently published Michigan-based children’s book authors. Our mission is to reinvent the traditional book fair mode. (You know the one. It usually brings in the same mass-produced books and sells a lot of toys.) Our goal is to create a space that highlights local authors, promotes diverse stories, and inspires the next generation of readers.

Each book fair pairs with a free 90-minute Family Literacy Night for local elementary schools, which includes a writing workshop, author Q&A panel, arts & crafts, and story time. We bring real authors into school communities, allowing kids to connect face-to-face with the creators of the stories they’re reading. We now have over 30 authors and more than 100 books in our catalog, spanning picture books through middle grade.

This initiative is all about accessibility, creativity, and representation. We want reading to be more than a classroom activity. We want it to be a part of everyday life, something the whole family can rally behind and celebrate. A Pop of Indie is about inspiring, empowering, and nurturing young minds one indie book at a time.

Could you tell us more about your work with the marketing group Kidlit at Heart. What is it, exactly? And what role do you play?

Kidlit at Heart came together through the 12×12 Picture Book Challenge. We’re a group of authors navigating different paths (traditional, hybrid, and indie publishing) but all with a shared mission: to support one another and reach more readers.

We collaborate on marketing efforts, share resources, and brainstorm creative ways to amplify our books. Many of us launched books around the same time, so we hosted virtual launch parties, author Q&As, and promoted one another across our communities. It’s been such a gift to be part of a group that values collaboration over competition.

Coming from a corporate background in branding and marketing, I’ve been able to contribute those skills to the group. But it’s a two-way street; we each bring something unique to the table. At the heart of it, we’re just a group of writers helping each other succeed, one book at a time.

What other writing groups are you a part of, and what kind of benefits would you say they’ve offered you?

Early in my journey, I joined SCBWI and the 12×12 Picture Book Challenge, both of which were game changers. They gave me structure, accountability, and access to a wealth of information and industry insight. Through these groups, I found critique partners, built confidence, and embraced feedback as a vital part of the process.

I’ve also participated in writing workshops through the Highlights Foundation, which helped me deepen my craft and connect with other writers in a truly immersive setting. One of the most pivotal moments came when I took virtual writing classes with Valerie Bolling, an author, educator, and mentor who had an incredible impact on my latest book, The Truth About Stepmoms. Valerie’s insight, encouragement, and thoughtful feedback helped me shape the story with more clarity, intention, and heart. She challenged me to dig deeper, to elevate my storytelling, and to trust my voice, and for that, I’ll always be grateful.

In addition to those, I’m a writing contributor for Detroit Moms, where I share the raw, beautiful, and messy realities of motherhood with a community of women who just get it. Writing for them has stretched my voice in new ways and allowed me to connect beyond children’s literature.

Each group has poured into me in a different way—professionally, creatively, and emotionally. They’ve helped me grow not just as a writer, but as a human.

What suggestions would you offer to other aspiring indie authors?

  • Start before you’re ready. You will never feel “ready,” and that’s okay. Start where you are and learn along the way.
  • Talk about your book early. Don’t wait until it’s perfect. Let your community in on the journey; they’ll root for you harder when they feel a part of it.
  • Ask for help. This path wasn’t meant to be walked alone. Reach out to fellow authors, editors, and illustrators. Most people are more generous than you’d expect.
  • Get comfortable with feedback. Critique is where your story grows. It’s not personal; it’s part of the process.
  • Think like a business, but lead with your heart. Self-publishing is creative and entrepreneurial. You’re not just selling a book, you’re building a brand rooted in purpose.
  • Celebrate small wins. Your first school visit, your first review, your first reader message, it all counts.
  • Protect your joy. It’s easy to get caught up in comparison or metrics. Come back to why you started. Keep the joy in your work.

Writing takes a lot of time and dedication. And, like many creative pursuits, it can sometimes consume our lives-  if we let it. As a mom to three, could you share what your experience of writing and publishing while parenting has been like? How do you manage your time and set boundaries to ensure balance for family and work?

I wish I had a perfect answer for this, it’s the million-dollar question so many working moms ask. But the truth is, I simply take it one day or one week at a time.

As a mom of three kids in very different life stages (elementary, middle, and high school) there’s no one-size-fits-all system that works for me. I also have ADHD, so structure isn’t always my best friend. I’m emotionally driven and creatively led. I’ve learned to tune into my energy, to work when I’m inspired, and to rest when I need to.

-YES! As a fellow ADHD girl myself, I can attest to how important this is. Tuning into our energy- working when we feel inspired and resting when we need to rest.

Outside of writing, I run my own business, RNB Retail Consulting, where I support women-owned businesses across Michigan using my 20 years of corporate retail experience. I’ve had to become more intentional with my time and more comfortable saying no. That’s taken practice, but it’s been incredibly freeing.

I don’t compartmentalize writing from motherhood because, honestly, it’s all intertwined. My kids are a part of this journey; they read early drafts, give feedback, and often tag along to bookstores and festivals. When they tell me they’re proud or that they want to write a story of their own, I know I’m doing something right.

Here are a few things that help me:

  • I carve out short writing sprints (30–45 minutes) when the house is quiet.
  • I keep a notebook or phone notes handy to jot down ideas anytime they come.
  • I protect family time fiercely, and I protect creative time too.
  • I involve my kids in my writing world. Their perspective often sparks the best ideas.
  • And I give myself permission to pause. Productivity doesn’t always look like writing. Sometimes it looks like living.

Speaking of parenthood, are there any resources related to your books that you offer to parents? (If so, would you be interested in linking/sharing them here so they could be available on the blog as well?)

Yes! Creating family-friendly, book-inspired activities is one of my favorite parts of the author journey. I want my books to do more than entertain; I want them to help families connect, process, and grow together.

For The Truth About Stepmoms, I offer resources that support children and families navigating blended family dynamics. These include:

  • A DIY family photo album craft that encourages kids to reflect on their favorite memories and celebrate their unique family makeup.
  • Conversation prompts that help kids express their feelings about family changes, stepparents, and shifting routines.
  • A “What Makes a Family” worksheet that emphasizes love, support, and connection over titles or roles.
  • Links to valuable outside resources like the Radical Stepmoms Podcast, which features real stories and tools for navigating stepmotherhood, and @stepmomcoach on Instagram, whose website is full of helpful strategies, affirmations, and printables for blended families.

I want families to feel seen and supported because there’s no one-size-fits-all model for love.

For Imagine That, which centers around bedtime fears and the power of imagination, I provide tools that help kids work through fear and build emotional resilience:

  • Discussion prompts about nighttime worries and calming routines.
  • A printable bravery cape activity, where kids decorate their own cape and write down the things that make them feel strong.
  • Bedtime affirmations and breathing exercises to ease anxiety.
  • A list of creative problem-solving prompts that help kids reframe fear through play and storytelling.

For Finding Bunny, a story about friendship and emotional resilience, I’ve created resources that focus on helping kids identify and process their feelings:

  • Emotion cards and a feelings game to help children name what they’re experiencing.
  • Creative writing and drawing prompts based on the story.
  • Mindful drawing activities that offer a gentle way to express emotion nonverbally

Some of these resources are available on my website, and others I provide during school author visits. They are easy for parents, teachers, and caregivers to implement at home or in the classroom. My goal is to extend the reading experience beyond the book because stories aren’t just for reading. They’re for living, feeling, and growing together.

Anything else you’d like to share with readers today?

If I could leave you with one thing, it’s this: Reading is one of the simplest, most powerful ways we connect with each other. Whether it’s a bedtime story, a few minutes between errands, or a book tucked into a travel bag, those small moments matter. They shape how our kids see the world and how they see themselves.

Make time for reading. For yourself and for your family. Stories are fuel. Stories are mirrors. Stories are bridges.

And if you ever need a little reminder of that, here’s the phrase I come back to often:

“Reading is my love language.”

It’s how I show up, how I connect, and how I leave something meaningful behind.

To every aspiring writer, dreamer, or mama out there juggling more than one hat, keep going. Tell your stories. They matter more than you know.

Renee, thank you so much for joining us on Chelsea’s World of Books Literary Blog. It has been a pleasure having you here today. So much courage and kindness have been shared in today’s chat. I’m sure our readers who have made it to the end of this interview would agree. But we’re not quite to the very end. Now it’s time for our GIVEAWAY!

For the month of July, Renee is offering THREE winners a prize of one of her books + EXTRA GOODIES. Each book will come with EXTRA GOODIES: stickers, a bookmark, and a book bag tag.

Prize winner 1: Signed copy of Finding Bunny + EXTRA GOODIES

Prize winner 2: Signed copy of Imagine That! + EXTRA GOODIES

Prize winner 3: Signed copy of The Truth about Stepmoms + EXTRA GOODIES

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Renee Bolla, a children’s picture book author, seamlessly transitioned from the corporate world of fashion retail to crafting stories for young minds. She self-published Finding Bunny and Imagine That in 2022, followed by The Truth About Stepmoms in 2024. Renee weaves the magic of her personal experiences, as a mother of three, into every narrative, creating stories that resonate with the shared joys and challenges of parenthood. Her passion for literature extends beyond her own creations. She is the founder of A Pop of Indie: A Traveling Book Fair, an initiative connecting Michigan indie authors with elementary students, fostering a love of reading. She is also a writing contributor for Detroit Mom, a member of SCBWI, an active participant in 12×12 Picture Book Challenge, and co-founder of the marketing group, Kidlit at Heart. Through her work, she aims to inspire and inspire young hearts, one story at a time. @reneebollaauthor (Instagram, FB, and Pinterest) / @reneebolla (Tik Tok) https://www.reneebollaauthor.com

JANUARY 2025 FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH SPECIAL GUEST CHILDREN’S AUTHOR LISA KATZENBERGER, CONDUCTED BY CHILDREN’S BOOK WRITER, BLOGGER, AND FORMER LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

This year, we’re jumping into our Feature Interview segment with a guest who is every bit as lovely inside as she is out. Please welcome- Lisa Katzenberger! Lisa is a Children’s Book author known best for her beautifully written SEL stories that feature themes like being true to yourself, overcoming fears, and what it means to be a friend. But beyond her wonderfully charming stories, Lisa also wears many other literary hats, including her hat as a Writing Barn faculty member and writing instructor for classes like Write Submit Support. Which (fun fact) is actually how we met!

Before we get started with our interview, if this is your first time visiting, here’s a sliver of what you’ll find here on the blog. THE BLOG houses pretty much an endless array of resources and helpful tips for writers and illustrators- and the list is always growing, but one of the most popular and truly incredible things that the blog has to offer is the FEATURE INTERVIEW segment, founded in 2022 and hosted by yours truly, Chelsea DiCicco.

You might be wondering…

WHAT ARE THEY?

WHO ARE THEY FOR?

HOW CAN THEY HELP ME?

Let me shed some light…

Feature Interviews are a monthly collaboration of industry professionals, including authors, illustrators, editors, and agents, having real conversations about the ins and outs of publishing. Many featured guests were at one time, or currently are, also educators, librarians, or booksellers. Their input and perspectives on publishing bring an invaluable amount of knowledge both for newly aspiring authors and/or illustrators, as well as those who are well-established.

These conversations help provide writers and illustrators with tools and insight by giving them an up-close look at publishing across a diverse collection of viewpoints from different sides of the desk. Every month, we dig deep into the behind-the-scenes of publishing, share tips and resources, and provide answers to common (and not-so-common) questions. We also offer PRIZE giveaway opportunities to all readers who take the time to either leave a comment on the blog post or share it on social media. Prizes include free merchandise, one-on-one Zoom mentor calls or Ask-Me-Anythings, manuscript critiques, and more.

Now that we know what’s in store, let’s get this ball rolling!

Lisa, it’s so truly fantastic to have you here with us today. What an exciting way to kick off the new year. How’s the beginning of the new year treating you so far?

Hi Chelsea! Thank you for having me. My new year is starting off great after a very busy 2024, which ended with me running out of steam and realizing I needed to take a nice long break. I did, and I’m back and ready to hit the ground running in 2025! 

Okay, first question. Where are you located? This is a new one, but I think it will be nice for readers to see where on the globe our friends are. Last year, I had people from all parts of the world join this segment. Maybe to celebrate the five-year mark, I’ll do a world map with pins on it to see how many locations we’ve reached. It would also be neat if some of our writers could form local connections this way. I befriended a few local authors last year thanks to the Manuscript Academy podcast. Shoutout to Molly McCaffrey, now M Hendrix. 😊 Turns out we’re in the same SCBWI chapter!

I’m located in the western suburbs of Chicago, in La Grange, Illinois. I’ve lived in the Chicago area my entire life.

Lisa, where and when did your love for writing manifest?

I remember it so clearly! I was in third grade, and we were writing stories in class. Mine was about a haunted house. But when the lesson was over, I just didn’t want to stop writing–I had more story to tell! I told my teacher and she let me keep writing as long as I liked. I was hooked!

Tell us about your journey into kidlit. How did you end where you are today? And when did that journey begin?

I started writing stories in grade school – for several years I took an advanced English class that I think was called TREK, but I never knew what it stood for! But we got to do a lot of creative writing – writing stories and poetry, and I learned about things like alliteration and personification. It was fascinating. I kept writing a bit in high school, then more so in college, where I learned about the short story form and also worked on my college newspaper (which was a blast!). After college, I got a job as a technical writer, and while I was good at it and grateful for a steady salary, I was bored out of my mind. I kept writing stories in notebooks and journals and eventually took my first online creative writing class through Writer’s Digest University. That’s when I began to consider writing for publication, working on short stories and then eventually novels for adults. I’ve had a handful of short stories published and have two and a half novels sitting in the proverbial drawer. But when I had my kids in 2010, and started taking them to library storytimes and reading board books and picture books, that’s when I switched to writing for kids! I joined SCBWI, 12×12, Storystorm, and every challenge you could find. I scoured the KidLit411 website (a FREE gem of information), read every blog post, attended conferences, took classes at The Writing Barn, and just sat down and wrote and wrote and wrote. At this point, I’m represented by Wendi Gu of HG Literary and I’ve had six kidlit books published!

What made you decide to take the route to traditional publishing vs. independent? Explain.

When I first started thinking about getting published, I honestly didn’t realize independent publishing was an option. I still don’t know much about that landscape, but I do appreciate there are lots of different options for creators to get their stories out in the world.

How were you able to find your agent match, and what made you know she was the right one for you? Explain.

I’ve been represented by Wendi Gu for about six years, and she is my second agent. When I was querying the second time around, I was much more focused, had my debut PB under contract, and was further along in my writing career, so it was a shorter process. I loved so many things about Wendi—her warm personality, her Chicago upbringing, her track record selling kidlit, amazing references from clients, and her insight into my stories. But what really won me over (I did have multiple representation offers) was that she told me which stories I shared with her that she thought she could sell and which were just not hitting things right. I knew she would be honest with me, but give her feedback professionally and kindly. Wendi has continued to both support and challenge me over the years, and I’ve grown under her guidance. I am very lucky to have a partnership with her.

Were there any challenges that you faced at the beginning of your publishing journey? If so, what were they, and how were you able to overcome them?

My relationship with my first agent only lasted a couple years, and it was so hard for me to admit that it just wasn’t the right fit. I asked around to a lot of friends who I had made in the kidlit world for advice, and they helped me come to the conclusion that it would be OK to move on and I wouldn’t lose steam in my writing career. It was a scary move to make but has worked out in the long run.

For writers and illustrators who may be facing similar challenges, what advice would you give them?

If you are struggling in your relationship with your agent, be very honest with yourself if this person is helping or hurting you. Are you waiting weeks or months for replies to emails? You shouldn’t have to! Are you afraid you are “bothering” your agent? You aren’t! You are their client, and they want to help you develop your craft and sell your books. If they aren’t doing this, don’t hold on with someone who is not respecting you, your time, and the work of your heart.

What have been some of the greatest highlights of your publishing career? Explain.

One of my favorite highlights was seeing my debut picture book, NATIONAL REGULAR AVERAGE ORDINARY DAY, illustrated by Barbara Bakos, on display at my local independent bookstore, Anderson’s Bookshop. I went with my sister Krista, who was there to pick up a big order she had placed to give copies of my book to her friends and fellow teachers. Krista has since passed away, but she was my biggest fan. I will never forget how excited she was for me.

Me and my daughter Sydney at Anderson’s Bookshop with NATIONAL REGULAR AVERAGE ORDINARY DAY – Krista took this picture.

What have been some of the most difficult things you’ve faced on your publishing journey?

Handling the rejections. For a while, I was getting a thick skin, but over time, the rejections have started to hurt again. The last three books I’ve had out on submission have not sold. I try to focus on my current work, but there’s still heartache when a story you’ve worked so hard on isn’t picked up.

What’s the worst piece of writing advice you’ve ever been told?

I honestly can’t think of any bad writing advice I’ve received! I try to take some sort of learning from everything.

What’s the best?

Slow down. When I’m drafting, I have a tendency to rush through the emotional moments in a story, the parts that hit your heart and make a reader root for the main character. When I go back to revise, I have to remember to slow down pivotal moments in a story to really let the reader know what the character is experiencing.

What’s the best piece of writing advice you’ve ever been told?
“Slow down.” – Lisa Katzenberger

Do you have any favorite resources or communities that were especially influential to your writing journey that you’d recommend to other creators? If so, which ones and why/how were they able to help you?

The Writing Barn and the 12×12 Picture Book Challenge were both instrumental to my picture book career. I took classes through The Writing Barn and attended their retreats starting in 2017, and I had a mentorship with the wonderful Bethany Hegedus, who taught me so much and offered endless support and encouragement. With 12×12, in my first few years of writing picture books, I cranked out draft after draft. It was the practice I needed to learn how to craft a good story, and I met so many fellow writers who are now good friends!

Let’s talk a little about writing craft. Can you tell our readers what “craft” is all about and why it’s important to sharpen and hone those skills?

This is a great question, and it brings up a special memory. In the early 2000s, I was writing short stories and attempting to write my first novel. I was taking a class online through AOL messenger (yes, I’ve been at this for that long!,) and I remember the instructor using the word “craft” and I asked him what that word meant. I kind of felt silly afterward when I understood what he meant, but it reminds me that we all have to start somewhere, and there really are no bad questions.

Now, the tricky part is how in the world would I describe the craft of writing? I would say it’s the combination of the art and science of the creative writing process. Things like learning how to choose the best point of view, defining your protagonist’s voice, and identifying your story’s major plot points. 

What are some ways writers can learn to better their craft?

Read a lot! You will learn so much from reading stories – both in the genre you like to write and outside of it. Take classes, go to webinars, attend conferences. Meet other writers and talk about the writing process. Work with critique partners to get feedback on your stories. Try lots of different approaches in a story – experiment and have fun!

“Read a lot! You will learn so much from reading stories – both in the genre you like to write and outside of it. Take classes, go to webinars, attend conferences. Meet other writers and talk about the writing process. Work with critique partners to get feedback on your stories. Try lots of different approaches in a story – experiment and have fun!” -Lisa Katzenberger

While we’re on the topic of learning and improving, can you tell us a little bit about the other literary work you do outside of writing and publishing books for kids?

I teach writing courses online as well! I have taught classes or webinars through The Writing Barn, SCBWI, Inked Voices, and 12×12.

How did you end up working as a writing instructor? And do you feel this helps ground you in the literary world and also helps strengthen your own skills as a writer?

From 2017-2020, I attended three retreats at The Writing Barn, took two online classes, and began a mentorship with Bethany. Bethany and I got to be good friends, and as my work became published, she asked me to teach Perfecting the Picture Book I at The Writing Barn. From there, I taught other courses at the Writing Barn and did webinars for Inked Voices, SCBWI, and 12×12. Part of the joy of teaching is giving back to the writing community and sharing the knowledge I’ve gained over the years. It also helps me remember that we are all constantly learning – I still take classes and webinars all the time. I am inspired and encouraged by my students, and when they take chances with their work and push themselves, it inspires me to do the same.

The Writing Barn, Austin Texas

“Part of the joy of teaching is giving back to the writing community and sharing the knowledge I’ve gained over the years. It also helps me remember that we are all constantly learning…” -Lisa Katzenberger

Speaking of your writing, I’d love to talk some about writing SEL picture books. As you know, I love SEL picture books and quiet stories with lots of heart and sentiment. Your books are always favorites of mine. They always leave me feeling the warm fuzzies. You know when I get those because usually, I close the book and hold it to my chest and smile. Sometimes, I’ll even shut my eyes to savor the moment. For readers who may be wondering what SEL is, could you share a little more about what SEL books are?

SEL stands for Social Emotional Learning. In my research about SEL over the years, I found this definition from CASEL to be helpful: “SEL is the process through which all young people and adults acquire and apply the knowledge, skills, and attitudes to develop healthy identities, manage emotions and achieve personal and collective goals, feel and show empathy for others, establish and maintain supportive relationships, and make responsible and caring decisions.”

CASEL SEL Framework

Now, SEL picture books can be a hard sell for a lot of reasons. For one thing, your craft has to be just right for the story to really sing. And just because you have a lovely message doesn’t necessarily mean that a kid will find it lovely. So, it’s a delicate balance of finding the “kid” voice, tempered with the right pacing and right heart levels, and making sure it’s enjoyable for the readers (big and small). It’s really quite the master balancing act! But you always manage to do it so well. Can you tell our readers what your secret to writing a perfect SEL story is?

I see SEL books as those that focus more on how a character feels rather than what they do. These books are not as heavy on plot and may focus on exploring a specific emotion like empathy. For a great list of examples, check out librarian Betsy Bird’s recent list.

Oh gosh, I don’t know that I possess any secrets! But what I do have is a ton of tenacity. My SEL books take much longer for me to write. I go through 40-50 revisions over the course of several years. When there is a theme that is important to me, and I really want to tell a specific story, I really dig my heels in and refuse to give up! 

“When there is a theme that is important to me, and I really want to tell a specific story, I really dig my heels in and refuse to give up!” -Lisa Katzenberger

What are some hints and/or tips you can share with a writer on how to tighten or improve their SEL story? Do you have a magic checklist for what makes a SEL story sing?

I don’t have a checklist, but I often teach about thinking of the emotional shift in an SEL book. If it’s a story where your character changes (and they don’t have to!) you can look at what the emotional arc of their story is. For IT WILL BE OK: A Story of Empathy, Kindness, and Friendship, Giraffe moves from anxious to empathetic. In I CAN DO IT EVEN IF I’M SCARED: Finding The Brave You, the characters move from scared to brave. 

A map of the Plot and Emotion ARCS in IT WILL BE OKAY

-I love this visual of your story arc. It’s so helpful! Thanks for sharing.

Okay, time to celebrate some happy things. What have been some of the positive responses you’ve received from readers? And how did their words/actions make you feel?

I have been doing school visits this past year, and I love meeting with young readers. As they are coming into the presentation, some of them will ask me, “Are you The Author?” like it’s an official title. I think letting kids see the creator behind books helps them realize that they, too, could grow up to be an author or whatever they dream of being!

Lisa at a school visit

What are three things that instantaneously make you smile when you think about your career as a Children’s Book Author?

I get to make things up all day, I’m my own boss, and I can make kids think or feel something new.

-All wonderful things!

If you could share some words of wisdom with other writers and illustrators, pertaining to publishing and/or life, what would they be?

My 88-year-old mom, bless her heart, always says, “getting old isn’t for sissies!” You have to be a tough cookie to survive this publishing business, too. It is all really, really hard. The rejection, the self-doubt, the waiting (so much waiting!), the odds being stacked against us. And when you get to one milestone (say, signing with an agent), you realize there are a bunch of other milestones after that (selling a manuscript to an editor, getting your books into stores, having a decent sales record, the opportunity to sell another manuscript). There are so many points in this process where it would be SO easy to just throw your hands up and walk away. But please don’t! The world needs your stories – and not just the kids – the parents, teachers, and librarians need them too! Story is how we expand our worldview, learn something new, have a good laugh, or see ourselves reflected. As creators, we are doing important work for this world – keep at it! 

-Oh my gosh, I love this!!

Let’s talk about books! Could you tell us about some of your books and your inspiration behind writing them?

Most of my books were inspired by real-life events! Here is some background:

-Ooh, I did not know that! FUN FACTS with Lisa! Tell us more…

CROC & GATOR: Swamp Ranger School was inspired by my family travels. We took a swamp tour in Louisiana and I was fascinated with the setting. When I created my characters, and needed to give them a job, I was inspired by the National Park Service Junior Ranger program that my kids have participated in.

IT BELONGS TO THE WORLD: Frederick Banting and the Discovery of Insulin was inspired by my son Ryan who was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes and requires a constant supply of insulin to survive.

I CAN DO IT EVEN IF I’M SCARED: Finding The Brave You was inspired by my experiences in therapy. I talk about it in this interview with Psychology Today, as well as the Author’s Note at the beginning of the book.

Do you have any fun/exciting stories about things that have happened with any of your books?

For A LOVE LETTER TO MY LIBRARY, illustrated by Rob Sayegh Jr, I commissioned a unique song from the amazing Emily Arrow. I use it at storytimes and school visits, and it’s been a lot of fun. Emily uses ASL and hand motions in the video. When I was doing school visits this fall, one librarian had shown her students the video prior to my arrival. I was worried they would be bored watching it again, but when I played the videos, they all started singing along and signing! I got goosebumps – it was so sweet! You can watch Emily’s video here.

-How amazing! I love that you did this. What a fantastic resource for ASL. And I can only imagine how fun it must have been to have this experience with the kids. Thanks for sharing, Lisa!

Students watch Emily Arrow sing the song she created to accompany A LOVE LETTER TO MY LIBRARY.

What do you hope readers will feel while and/or after reading one of your books?

I hope that they feel hopeful! Hopeful that they can be brave, talk about their feelings, be a good friend, or discover something new.

-I love this response! So beautiful!

Is there anything else you’d like our readers to know?

I feel like I am at this weird point in my career where I’ve achieved so many of my initial goals, and yet at the same time, I feel like I don’t know if I’ll be lucky enough to keep going. In the past few months, I’ve been working with a career coach to focus on what success means to me and what steps I need to take to achieve that. Thinking about being a full-time author as a career I want to maintain has been intimidating, but I am hoping that if I continue to work hard and a little luck still falls my way, I will be able to keep writing books for a long time.

Lisa, thank you so much for joining us today and for all that you do for the kidlit community and your readers (big and small!) You bring so much courage and care to your work, and it truly makes a difference. We appreciate you!!

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Lisa Katzenberger: Author

Writes: Picture Books, Chapter Books

Traditionally published – meaning her work has been acquired by an editor at a publishing house, not a vanity/paid-for service or press.

Represented by literary agent Wendi Gu.

BIO Lisa Katzenberger has been writing stories since she was a kid. Books have been a part of her life since her mom took her to their local library each week, letting her roam around the children’s section, picking out whatever she wanted to read. She loved escaping into stories, and she still can’t believe she gets to write them for kids now! Lisa is the author of I CAN DO IT EVEN IF I’M SCARED: Finding the Brave You, A LOVE LETTER TO MY LIBRARY, IT BELONGS TO THE WORLD: Frederick Banting and the Discovery of Insulin, IT WILL BE OK: A Story of Empathy, Kindness, and Friendship, and CROC & GATOR: Swamp Ranger School. She is on the faculty of The Writing Barn, where she teaches picture book writing courses and serves on the Board of Trustees of her local library. Lisa lives near Chicago with her husband and two children.

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