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SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH FORMER NASA MOLECULAR MICROBIOLOGIST AND CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR, HEATHER MORRIS, CONDUCTED BY CHILDREN’S BOOK WRITER, BLOGGER, AND FORMER LIBRARIAN, CHELSEA DICICCO

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Today, I’m chatting with former NASA Molecular Microbiologist, and Children’s Book Author, Heather Morris. We’ll be discussing science in kidlit, querying trenches, close calls with agents and editors, as well as sharing some of our favorite resources and tips and tricks on starting your career with work-for-hire and direct submissions.

But before we do… here are a few things to know about feature interviews.

THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?

Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.

Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.

What can these interviews offer YOU?

These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:

  • stay current with market trends
  • hook an agent or editor
  • find writing community & other resources
  • discover workshops, contests, and other events
  • figure out which path of publication is right for you
  • know if your agent is a good match

AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month! *If you’re interested in entering the giveaway, scroll to the bottom of the interview for instructions.*

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

Welcome to the blog, Heather! It’s so nice to have you with us. And it feels wild to think we’re already in SEPTEMBER. Where has this year gone?

INTRODUCTIONS & BEGINNINGS

Today, I’d love to start by asking you the #1 question: What led you to the beautiful yet rugged terrain of publishing?

First of all, thank you so much for inviting me to be on your blog, Chelsea! I love the way you phrased this first question - publishing is beautiful, but rugged. Full of so much joy and difficulty, all rolled into one journey. A part of me has always wanted to write - poetry, novels, essays, short stories, science articles, you name it. I think that’s what it truly means to be a “writer” - one who must write, who can’t help but write. When I was about seven years old, I found a typewriter in my grandfather’s office. I would spend hours typing poorly spelled stories. And then I never stopped. Even when I was pursuing my career in science (which I think we will get to below), I never stopped writing. So, the natural outgrowth of that is…eventually, you want to publish some of the stuff you’ve written. There’s a longing to share your work with others, and this is true for any art.

In your interview bio, you shared a little bit about your fascinating line of work as a molecular microbiologist and history working with NASA. So, I’m itching to know… how did publishing enter the mix? 

Yes, in high school I found microbiology. And I decided I wanted to be an epidemiologist (a scientist who studies pandemics and the spread of disease), so I entered college as a Biology major. Because I still loved literature and stories, I ended up taking as many upper-level English classes as I could manage and still major in Biology. But eventually, I had to make a choice - what will I pursue? At that age, I couldn’t handle the subjectivity of writing. I also wasn’t able to handle the rejection that comes in this industry. I needed my answers to either be correct or not. Math, science, and chemistry filled that need. 

After graduating from college, I knew I wanted to work in a laboratory, which meant graduate work. While in graduate school, I learned how crucial writing and publishing is in that world also. There’s a saying in the sciences - “publish or perish” - meaning you need to continue to experiment, continue to write up your results, continue to tell elegant “stories” in order to advance. And I LOVED it! I loved the research, I loved the writing, I loved the experimental design.

But all through this, I still wrote other things. Short stories, poetry, and more. Like I said before, I just have to write. 

Then I had kids. And read to them. A LOT. And I thought to myself, “I could do this. I could write a picture book.” Ha! That sparked many years of beginning to learn how complex picture books are, and how much I DIDN’T know about how to write them.

Are you still working as a molecular microbiologist? If so, how do you manage both literary deadlines and work schedules?

I worked as a scientist for a NASA contractor until last year. At that point, I made the decision to write full-time. It was becoming impossible to balance work for NASA, the schedules of three kids, and my publishing commitments while also trying to write and revise new work. But I did juggle all of those for at least five years before taking the “plunge” into full-time writing. 

Any tips for readers who may be balancing a day job in addition to pursuing publication?

It’s hard. It really is. Up until recently, I wrote after the kids went to bed most evenings. And on the weekends, and at their sporting events, and in their school pick-up lines, and I’d listen to craft books while grocery shopping. I actually still do most of these things. But now, I am usually able to enjoy being with my family in the evenings instead of disappearing to write, which is wonderful because my oldest is not far away from college! I don’t want to miss a moment with any of them! My family inspires, challenges, and delights me! They, along with my close friends, are what push me to be a better writer.

Has writing been something you’ve always enjoyed, or did this happen later in life?

Yes! I’ve always been a writer. I was the kid who talked her friends into writing fan fiction at sleepovers or while we were playing at each other’s houses! I actually have a notebook with a complete book-length novel that my friend and I co-wrote at age 11!

-I love this! And can definitely relate myself. :)

Did you ever think you’d have a career in publishing? Or was it a total surprise?

This is a dream come true! As a kid, I dreamed of writing and publishing books. As a teenager, I dreamed of writing and publishing books. As an adult, I dreamed of writing and publishing books. But I never gave myself space to pursue that dream. It wasn’t “practical.” It wasn’t a “dependable job.” I will forever be grateful to my husband who not only gives me the space to create and market and promote my writing, but who also initially pushed me to learn more. “You’ve always talked about this,” he said. “Why not give it a shot?”

Speaking of a career in publishing… I’m curious to learn more about yours. You mentioned in your bio that you were in the query trenches and have had many close calls with agents and editors. Could you elaborate on this?

As you said in your first question, the publishing industry is beautiful and rugged - filled with incredible delights and crushing disappointments. I began querying my picture book manuscripts in the fall of 2021, after I’d been writing, learning, revising, and polishing for almost two years. A few of my critique partners already had agents, and one of their agents opened for paid critiques. I sent him one of my picture book manuscripts and left glowing comments and requested more of my work! My first full request…and NOT through traditional querying. 

Ultimately, he ended up passing, but I was still very encouraged that an agent at a well-known, highly respected agency had been so intrigued by my writing.

-Fascinating! I love hearing stories like this. It's so interesting to see different ways people make connections and grow in the writing community.

Behind the scenes, while I was writing picture books, I was also working on a middle-grade manuscript. My second, actually. I had already written one middle-grade book just to prove to myself that I could finish something coherent and lengthy. And the first chapter of this second book was getting lots of interest from agents at conferences I attended. I finally finished that manuscript and began querying. I sent it to forty agents (over the course of six months)…and received eight full requests! I was blown away. Two asked for revise and resubmits once they read my manuscript. And…

…all of them ended up passing. 

I heard on a podcast - I think it was Manuscript Academy’s podcast - that if you’re getting a lot of full requests and then passes, your submission package is working, but there’s probably something about the full manuscript that needs tweaking. So, I took a step back, worked with a developmental editor, and learned a ton about how to really write a novel. 

-Oh my gosh. I LOVE the Manuscript Academy podcast. It's full of so much great info for new (and seasoned) writers!

In the meantime, I wrote another middle-grade novel and more picture books. I queried my picture books a little. Most were passes, but I got a few requests for more work! And then…more passes. At an SCBWI conference this spring, I pitched my work to an agent who was someone I really wanted to work with. Through a long series of events (and this answer’s already long enough!), she ended up offering me representation, I signed with her in early July, and we’re on submission with a few of my picture books!

-AHH! Congratulations, Heather. What terrific news- I'm so excited for you!!

DEBUTS, PUBLISHERS, AND LITERARY AGENTS

“So often, I feel like this industry makes things out to be very black and white. For example, you either query for representation OR you submit to publishers. I did both simultaneously…” -Heather Morris @morrwriting #featureinterview #chelseasworldofbooks

I know this year you had your debut book published with Gnome Road Publishing—congratulations! That’s incredibly exciting and such a huge accomplishment, especially since you went at this without the aid of a literary agent. Could you tell us about how you ended up getting a book deal with the publisher?

Thanks so much, Chelsea! Trunk Goes Thunk! releases on October 8, and I couldn’t be more thrilled with this book and the whole publishing experience. 

Gnome Road Publishing published its first round of books in the Spring of 2023. Since then, they have released four titles twice a year. Sandra Sutter, the publisher and lead editor at Gnome Road, conducted a series of interviews on blogs in 2021 and 2022. As I read about what she was looking to publish with her new press, I resonated with her focus on “re-readability.” She offered special submission opportunities on these blog interviews, one of which I was fortunate enough to win. I sent in a picture book manuscript (not Trunk), which Sandra took to her acquisitions team. Ultimately, they decided to pass, but I learned a little more about what she was looking for.

-This is great insight for readers, Heather. Thanks for sharing. There are really SO many ways for authors to go about finding a spot in publishing. You just really have to be open to putting yourself out there and making the connections.

When I wrote Trunk Goes Thunk! almost a year later, I sent it exclusively to Sandra. I wanted her to have first dibs on this story. I felt confident she would love it based on her wishlist and what I had learned from emailing with her about my other manuscript. Waiting for her response felt endless, but eventually, she wrote to say she wanted to buy it!

-Yay! I love happy endings. :)

Could you share your experience of how managing a book deal worked directly with the publisher without having representation?

It was very straightforward. Sandra and I met on Zoom to discuss her offer and any questions I might have, then she sent over her standard contract. She told me to take my time, read it through, and ask questions if I had them. 

-Love this form of communication. It sound like she'd be great to work with.

Fortunately, I had made some connections in the publishing world, and a few of my author friends had already signed contracts with Gnome Road. I reached out to them to ask about their experiences, and every one of them had nothing but praise. Also, I have critique partners who, at that point, had already signed contracts with Big Five publishers. I asked them to take a look at the Gnome Road contract, and they gave it a green light also. 

-So cool that you had friends with firsthand experience, who were able to help guide you and give feedback when you turned to them. Love this!

Were there any complications you ran into during this process- and if so, what was the outcome?

None whatsoever. Working with Sandra and Gnome Road has been smooth and absolutely delightful. 

-We love to hear things like this!

Do you have any tips for readers who may be looking to submit directly to publishers versus querying for literary representation? 

So often, I feel like this industry makes things out to be very black and white. For example, you either query for representation OR you submit to publishers. I did both simultaneously. I kept an extensive spreadsheet and tracked all my submissions, and (this is crucial) I only sent a manuscript to an agent or a publisher if I thought it would fit their list. And I tailored my query letters very specifically. Both to agents and publishers. Which is why I’ve only sent out about 60-70 agent queries total.

It takes a lot of research. Which takes a lot of time. But I sent a Southern-themed manuscript to Pelican Publishing and Peachtree Publishing, and got very nice passes from both (as in “this wasn’t a fit, but send us more of your work if you think it would fit our list”). I sent a different manuscript to other publishers. And a third to another set of publishers. All while querying those same manuscripts to agents. Ultimately, I wanted to secure representation for my long-term career, but I never thought these manuscripts were going to be the only ones I wrote, so if I happened to sell them along the way, GREAT!

Let’s talk publishing houses. What made you choose Gnome Road Publishing for your work? And did you submit to any other publishing houses or have any other competing offers?

As I mentioned in my story above, I only sent Trunk to Gnome Road. I started with Sandra because I really wanted to work with her and I thought this book would fit her list. Also, since I had not yet secured representation, I could only submit to publishers that accept unagented submissions. There are quite a few publishing houses that are well known that have open submissions (Charlesbridge, Chronicle, Holiday House), and I may have continued down my list if Gnome Road had passed…but thankfully, they didn’t!

However, because I hadn’t sent this manuscript to any agents, I couldn’t use Sandra’s offer as something to nudge agents with. Which meant I finalized the sale myself.

What kind of book deal were you offered? Was it a single sale, as in they bought one manuscript, or was it a multiple-book deal?

Gnome Road only offers single sale contracts…but there is more exciting news to come on that front that I hope to be able to share soon!

DOORS TO PUBLISHING: WORK-FOR-HIRE & EDUCATIONAL MARKET

Do you have any fun WIP brewing? If so, what genre?

I’m currently working on revisions to a new picture book idea based on a little story I wrote for a contest. It’s morphing into something quite fun and magical.

I’m also revising my fourth complete middle-grade novel. I hope to have those edits done before the end of the year in case my agent and I decide to send it out on submission.

Finally, I have another middle-grade novel idea knocking around in my brain. It’s unlike anything I’ve written before - adventure, mystery, and a hefty dose of friendship. Well, the friendship part is a theme in all my work, but the other stuff is new. 🙂

You mentioned querying agents, so what ultimately made you decide not to go the representation route for your first book deal?

As I mentioned a little earlier, I sent Trunk to Sandra exclusively. Perhaps that may not have been the most “popular” or “acceptable” decision - some may argue that I should have simultaneously submitted it to agents - but I went with my gut. Again, if Sandra and Gnome Road had passed, I am sure I would have queried this manuscript broadly, but everything worked out in the end.

Do you plan to continue publishing without literary representation in the future or do you think you’re leaning toward acquiring representation down the line? Why or why not?

Definitely not! I’ve always been interested in securing literary representation for my career. I knew I wanted help with marketing, strategizing about the best manuscripts to send on submission, help identifying interested editors, and someone to help with the business side of the publishing industry (contract negotiation, royalties, foreign rights, etc.). 

Which is why I’m so overjoyed that I’ve partnered with Kristen Terrette at Martin Literary Management! And we’re already out on submission with a few of my picture book manuscripts.

Let's talk a little about your experience with the educational market and work-for-hire. Could you shed more light on these interesting avenues of publishing and how one might approach entering one of these doors?

I first heard of the write-for-hire market from a fellow writer that I met through Twitter/X. She told me about an upcoming webinar in her SCBWI region that was all about breaking into the write-for-hire market. “You’re a scientist. You’d be great for this,” she said. And after I heard the presentation, I was definitely intrigued. The presenters did a fabulous job of breaking down the steps you need to take into manageable chunks - doing research on the publishers out there, preparing a submission package (VERY different from querying agents), etc. 

So I wrote a few samples, worked on my resume (not at all the resume you’re thinking of, I can assure you, this one is SUPER fun!), and wrote a cover letter. I did my research on publishers and talked to some other writers I knew who had done some write-for-hire work. Then I sent out my package to four or five educational market publishers (Roarke, Abdo, and others)...and waited.

About one year later, I heard from RedLine Editorial, one of the places I’d sent my submission package. They asked if I wanted to write one book in a series of climate books they were putting together for North Star Editions. Since then, I’ve written four books for them! 

-That's incredible! How very cool.

So, what has the work-for-hire experience been like for you? And what would you like to share about this with other readers who may be interested in dipping their toes into this side of publishing?

I really love the research involved in write-for-hire (everything I’ve written has been nonfiction), along with the specifications and structure from the publisher. It’s almost like putting together a puzzle - how to fit specific pieces into their places to make a beautiful picture.

CONFERENCES AND WRITING GROUPS

“My suggestion would be to have patience, persistence, and hold onto your sense of wonder. I think many people – myself included – make the mistake of thinking that breaking into publishing will be relatively easy… But like any industry, craft, and profession, it takes time to learn, to practice, to build networks and community.” -Heather Morris @morrwriting

What have been some of the most influential writing groups/conferences you’ve attended or been part of- and what specifically stood out to you about them?

I highly recommend two conferences - the ABLA Big Sur conference and the Rutgers Council on Children’s Literature One-to-One Plus conference. The first used to be held in both Big Sur, CA and on Cape Cod, MA. Now, I think they’ve condensed to one conference in February in Big Sur. 

This conference gives you the opportunity to meet in small groups with ABLA agents, editors, and big name writers (Neil Shusterman, Rajani La Rocca, and more). I made some close writing friends at this conference, had a wonderful time swapping stories with full-time authors, and got real-time feedback from agents. It was great, but it is pricey.

-Wow, this is a TERRIFIC resource, Heather. Thanks so much for sharing this with our readers!

The RUCCL One-to-One Plus conference is held every October on the campus of Rutgers University in New Jersey, when the leaves are changing color. It’s gorgeous! Every mentee is guaranteed an HOUR of one on one feedback with an agent, editor, or author (mentors)! And you have another hour of roundtable discussion with six mentors and six mentees, meaning you get to meet six editors, agents, and authors! There’s plenty of time to talk and mingle at lunch, and the presentations are great. It is one full day. You have to send in an application to be considered. Applications for the fall are due the summer before. 

-That sounds amazing!

I heard you got to give a presentation at your regional SCBWI conference- (very cool btw!) Which region are you a member of, and what was your presentation about?

Thank you! Yes, it was an honor to be able to present at the Spring 2023 conference for Southern Breeze. Our regional advisors asked for proposals for conference topics and I had just finished my first two write-for-hire books. I reached out to another author in my region, Heather Montgomery, who has written LOTS of children’s books - both for the trade and educational markets - and asked if she wanted to do a presentation on the write-for-hire market together. She agreed! It was the “Two Heathers” presentation, and we had a blast!

In fact, if you’d like more information on the write-for-hire market - what it is and how to break into it, the slides from that presentation are on my website HERE.

-THIS IS AMAZING! I feel like I'm in resource heaven!

Later on, in November 2023, I ended up stepping in to present at a smaller Middle Grade intensive that we had for our Southern Breeze region. I talked about working with editors, and that presentation is also on my website HERE.

For people who are just starting out in this line of work… what suggestions/tips/tricks do you have on navigating the ever-changing and competitive waters of kidlit publishing? And what recommendations do you have on places where they can go to find information on the industry, improve craft, or find community?

For those starting out…welcome! And congratulations! You’re embarking on a difficult journey. It’s a long road, filled with detours, stop lights that don’t change for a LOOOONG time, potholes, and potentially dangerous paths (if you don’t stop to read the signs). But it has magnificent views! And the unbelievable joy, honor, and gift of writing for the best audience - KIDS!

My suggestion would be to have patience, persistence, and hold onto your sense of wonder. I think many people - myself included - make the mistake of thinking that breaking into publishing will be relatively easy. “I like writing. I made pretty good grades in English in college and high school.” But like any industry, craft, and profession, it takes time to learn, to practice, to build networks and community. It has helped me to think of this publishing process as not only a journey, but a career switch. I had to “go back to college” (take LOTS of courses through Highlights and the 12x12 picture book challenge and more, watch LOTS of webinars, attend LOTS of conferences, and write a LOT) for about four years before I could really enter the industry and find a “job” (i.e. sign a contract).

My suggestion would be to have patience, persistence, and hold onto your sense of wonder. I think many people – myself included – make the mistake of thinking that breaking into publishing will be relatively easy… But like any industry, craft, and profession, it takes time to learn, to practice, to build networks and community.

CHALLENGES, HIGHLIGHTS, AND THE CONTINUED JOURNEY

“It’s amazing for me to consider that kids that I’ve never met, adults I’ve never met, will read my words. I can’t express how much it means to me. The whole idea that we can make marks on a page that another person will pick up and understand and then layer their personal experience on top of…it’s magic. Sheer magic.”

What have been your favorite parts of kidlit publishing so far?

Talking with kids from schools all over the country! Interacting with readers is my FAVORITE! But…Seeing my book covers and holding my words in print were close seconds. 🙂 

What are some challenges you’ve faced on this journey, and how were you able to overcome them?

About two years into this process of shifting careers, I became really disheartened. I had been writing and revising. I’d joined a critique group or two. I’d attended conferences and studied and read the books, and I felt like I wasn’t getting anywhere. Then I’d get on social media and try to engage, but I’d just see happy posts about book deals and agent signings and author visits. Don’t get me wrong, I was genuinely happy for these authors - they are my online community! But it was still hard. 

One of the best things for me was setting boundaries on social media. And then taking the time that I had been spending scrolling and posting and taking the perfect picture or making the best Canva post…and using it to write. I wrote and wrote and wrote. All kinds of things in all kinds of genres. I played with words and did writing exercises and had FUN! I rediscovered my love of writing, for the joy of writing. 

I also leaned into my family and friends, spending lots of time with them, NOT talking about the publishing industry. 🙂

Writing is a deeply personal pursuit that is highly focused on creativity. What is your main reason for writing? And what does it mean to YOU to write and share books with others?

It is amazing for me to consider that kids that I’ve never met, adults I’ve never met, will read my words. I can’t express how much it means to me. The whole idea that we can make marks on a page that another person will pick up and understand and then layer their personal experience on top of…it’s magic. Sheer magic.

Speaking of writing… it’s time for my favorite part of the interview. THE BOOKS!

BOOKS + GIVEAWAYS

“I like to say my books/stories are filled with science, wonder, and imagination. Nature also features strongly in all my writing. I love being out in the natural world.” Heather Morris @morrwriting


We’d love to hear about the book(s) you’ve published. Tell us all about it(them)! 

Trunk Goes Thunk! Is my debut picture book! But I had two educational market books come out last August -

Climate Crisis in the Southeast (Focus Readers/North Star Editions) and Top Brands: Disney (Apex/North Star Editions). It was so much fun to write about Disney for that second book! And I had a blast with all the research for Climate Crisis.

I also have two more books releasing from Apex/North Star Editions this month, both in their Dog Breeds series. I got to write about Dachshunds and Staffordshire Bull Terriers and learned a ton about both of these unique and interesting breeds!

On July 8 of this year, The Haunted States of America released from Godwin Books/Macmillan. This anthology is a collection of 52 short stories by 52 different SCBWI authors representing every state, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia! Each spooky story has a gorgeous illustration by the remarkable illustrator, Solomon Hughes. It’s an honor to have my ghost story - “White Thing” - represent Alabama in this cool collection!

What was your inspiration for writing it(them), and what do you hope your story/stories will give your readers?

I like to say my books/stories are filled with science, wonder, and imagination. Nature also features strongly in all my writing. I love being out in the natural world. My corner of creation is lovely - rolling hills, deep rivers, temperate forests, high biodiversity, more caves than most of the rest of the world. It’s a pretty great place for inspiration. My family also inspires me. My kids challenge me, give me great ideas, and, of course, give me honest feedback. And my grandfather gave me the idea for my “White Thing” story!

Do you have any favorite book spreads? If so, which one(s) and why? Also, if you have any pictures to share, we’d love to see them!

YES!! My illustrators for Trunk Goes Thunk!, Chantelle and Burgen Thorne, are OUTSTANDING! They are incredibly talented. I was blown away by the care and beauty that they infused into every spread of this lovely book. But I confess, I do have a favorite. I absolutely love otters, and there’s one spread in the book that shows the log in summer and in winter…and - without knowing how much I adore otters! - they drew the cutest little guys sunning on the log!! Here it is:

“I like to say my books/stories are filled with science, wonder, and imagination. Nature also features strongly in all my writing. I love being out in the natural world.” 

Have you had a chance to do any book events since its launch? If so, we’d love to hear about it and see some photos if you have any and would like to share!

I have done a few book events! I did multiple Zoom and one in-person author visit last spring, where I spoke about my upcoming books and the science and inspiration that went into writing them. I’ve also participated in two different book festivals where I took pre-orders for my books and sold copies of my educational market books and some other anthologies that I’ve contributed to (adult market books). 

The festivals are fun, though sometimes it feels like you’re running a lemonade stand. :) You sit and wait until someone “drives by,” and then you say “hello,” stand up, and try to engage. I enjoy meeting new people and hearing their stories so that part is fun! I’ve learned that you may not sell many books, but you’ll make connections, and I always have a sign-up sheet for my quarterly newsletter.

-I love that analogy.
If applicable- What has been your favorite part of author events?

I love author visits ‘cause you get to interact with KIDS! If you can’t tell, I really enjoy being around kids. They ask great questions, they won’t sugar-coat their feedback, and they’re so passionate about what they like. I can’t wait to keep booking more and more of these events!

If applicable- What kind of events have you been able to host, and how were the events arranged? Did you reach out directly? If so, how? (Email? Phone call? etc.) And what places have you been able to visit? (Farmer’s Markets/Libraries/Schools/Bookstores, ETC.)?

I’ve participated in book festivals, done one in-person author visit, multiple Zoom author visits, and been a panelist for a few different events. For two of these, I was contacted by someone I had met at another event. They told me about the book festival or author visit they wanted me to do and asked if I was interested. For all the others, I had to reach out via phone or email (I’ve done both), explain who I am and about my book, and ask if they are interested. I think calling bookstores works better because you can learn the person’s name and explain more about yourself. Then, you can follow up with an email.

Coming up in the next few months, I’ll be participating in the Mississippi Book Festival in Jackson in September, and I have multiple book signings/story times booked in October! 

Do you have any final words of wisdom you’d like to share with readers today that you wish you had known when you first started pursuing publication?

I’m so grateful to be writing books for kids and so thankful to be talking to you, Chelsea! I wish I had known to slow down and not be in a rush to be published. I wish I had allowed myself to “play,” to experiment, earlier. I eventually got to that point, but it took a little while. 

-Lovely advice to end on, Heather. Thanks again for being with us today. It's been an absolute treasure getting to hear more about your wonderful "story behind the story" of publishing. And you've given us so many great tips, resources, and pieces of advice. I'll be keeping my eye out for your forthcoming books!

And now it's time for some GIVEAWAYS!

This month, Heather is offering TWO giveaway prizes- one prize per winner– TWO WINNERS TOTAL!

  • One picture book manuscript (fiction or nonfiction, 800 words or less) OR 1 query letter critique
  • One 30 minute, ask me anything session

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In this Feature Interview, I talk with former NASA Molecular Microbiologist and Children's Book Author, Heather Morris. Heather shares her insight on publishing across the educational market, work-for-hire, direct to publisher, and with literary representation, and offers a treasure trove of resources for aspiring and current authors on how to grow community and make connections in the kidlit world. This month, Heather is offering 2 giveaways- 1 prize each to each winner- 2 winners total! Be sure to comment on the post for a chance to win. Retweet & share for extra entries.

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Heather C. Morris is the grateful author of multiple books for kids – fiction, nonfiction, picture books, and middle grade – including Trunk Goes Thunk! (Gnome Road Publishing, 2024), and a ghost story in the Haunted States of America Anthology (Godwin Books/Macmillan, 2024). She is an active member of the Society of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators (SCBWI), the Middle Grade Hub, and the 12×12 picture book challenge.  When she’s not reading or writing, you’ll find her hiking the surrounding Appalachian Mountains with her husband, their three kids, and their rescued border collie. Heather is represented by Kristen Terrette at Martin Literary Management.

Connect with Heather: Website: www.heathercmorris.com Instagram: morr_writing Twitter/X: morrwriting

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JULY 3RD, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EDUCATOR, LITERARY BLOGGER, AND CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR ANDREW HACKET, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT BLOGGER & WRITER, CHELSEA DICICCO

Posted on by Chelsea’s World of Books in Feature Interview Series

Today, I’m talking with children’s book author, literary blogger, and educator Andrew Hacket. 

But before we jump into our interview, if this is your first time visiting the blog, here’s the scoop on Feature Interviews.

THE SCOOP: WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS & WHO ARE THEY FOR?

Feature Interviews are a free resource for writers and illustrators at every stage of the publishing journey.

Every month, I collaborate with industry professionals—authors, illustrators, editors, and agents— many of whom were or currently are also educators and librarians, to discuss all things publishing.

What can these interviews offer YOU?

These interviews give readers an up-close and personal look at the world of publishing from an array of different perspectives on every side of the desk and offer insight into tips, resources, and advice on how to:

  • stay current with market trends
  • hook an agent or editor
  • find writing community & other resources
  • discover workshops, contests, and other events
  • figure out which path of publication is right for you
  • know if your agent is a good match

And more!

AND… if that’s not enough, every guest offers at least one giveaway prize—sometimes more. This means you have multiple opportunities to win prizes every month! *If you’re interested in entering the giveaway, scroll to the bottom of the interview for instructions.*

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

BEGINNINGS, INSPIRATION, AND EDUCATION

How did you end up in the amazing world of kidlit publishing?
My path to kidlit stemmed from a childhood creativity that lingered into adulthood. I had always liked the idea of writing, and dabbled here and there, but never had the time or energy to fully explore how to make this dream a reality.

Fast Forward to 2020 and the world was closing down. My 3 young children were going to be home learning from a computer screen, and someone had to be with them. As a result, I left my job as a teacher for the year and stayed home to support my children and their learning. What I quickly discovered was that while I was fulfilling an incredibly important role and need in my children’s lives, I was extremely, mentally, unstimulated. I was used to the fast-paced, mind constantly whirring life of a teacher, and this sudden stillness and calm in my brain was unsettling and not for me. So, with this new mental capacity, I dove headfirst into the publishing waters, listening to every webinar and podcast I could find, embracing the Twitter kidlit community, joining in with contests, and building my network of writing friends. 

Outside of your work as a writer, I know you’re also a literary blogger and elementary school educator of 18+ years. Which is incredible! Can you share more about that, and how those things connect to your writing career?

Working with children is all I have ever done. I began in afterschool programs and summer camps, before doing daycare and moving into my career as a teacher. Having spent so much time with kids (and conveniently my target audience) over the years has helped me maintain a childlike outlook on the world and be in tune with how kids think and what they like. Teaching has also given me a depth of knowledge when it comes to picture books. Reading picture books is embedded in my job and has helped me learn about structure and pacing.My blog is a constant source of inspiration as well. Hearing others’ stories of publication and creativity feed my own creative spirit and motivate me to continue writing. And in addition to all of that wonderfulness, interviewing authors keeps me connected to my community and can often open my eyes to new publishers or editors I had not previously known about. 

Let’s talk a little bit about writing inspiration. I want to touch on a few lines from your bio because I loved them (and related to them) so much! 

Andrew recognizes that being a kid is hard and he writes to create ways for children to see themselves in stories and characters, to accept and overcome their insecurities, or to escape for just a little while through the power of their imaginations. 

-I just love this!

So, it’s obvious you care a lot about children and their world, emotionally and mentally. Which, being a teacher and children’s book writer, only makes sense. Can you share a little more about where this connection to kids really started? What motivated you to want to dedicate your life toward bettering the lives of young readers, and students?

I like to tell students that I am a kid at heart. I have a healthy dose of Peter Pan syndrome and always have. Some kids are excited to grow up and do all of the things they think make being an adult awesome. I never was and I think that is a large reason I work with kids. Their energy keeps me young and connected to my inner child. I have worked with children since I was 16. I began at an afterschool program which then led into summer camps and daycares. What I discovered early on was that not only did I enjoy being with kids, but I was really adept at connecting with their emotions and understanding their wants, needs, and motivations behind their actions. This set me on the path to being a teacher and I have not regretted that choice ever.

“I have a healthy dose of Peter Pan syndrome and always have. Some kids are excited to grow up and do all of the things they think make being an adult awesome. I never was and I think that is a large reason I work with kids.”

As an educator, I imagine you want to engage your readers on an emotional level and impart some educational messages as well. Can you tell us a little bit about what lessons you hope little readers (and bigger readers) can gain from your books?

My three books vary widely in topic, tone, and structure, but each one has a strong SEL connection that I think comes from my years as an educator and also my own struggles growing up. Every child wants to feel a sense of belonging, and I think at some point, every person struggles with this despite how an outside perspective might perceive it. I hope my books help young readers feel seen and can push them on the path of accepting themselves and others for who they are at that moment. 

Speaking of books… I know you write across genres in kidlit: picture books, early readers, poems, and middle grade. I love talking with people who have a range of writing experience because each genre carries its own set of rules. I’m curious to know, for our readers and myself, how you balance these rules and keep your genres separated while writing? And have there been times when you’ve started, say, a picture book, that eventually “told you” it wasn’t meant to be a picture book and instead turned into something else- like an early reader or a middle-grade novel?

This is such a wonderful question. Overall, I don’t often focus too hard on “the rules”. That being said, I do think a fair amount of those rules become ingrained in our minds from when we were younger readers and perhaps the writing was a bit more formulaic. 

For the majority of my writing, I approach it with the intent of creating picture books. I do try to be mindful of a smaller word count and most of all make sure I am leaving room for the art. Being on the other side of publication now, I can attest to the incredible ability illustrators have to bring our words to life while enhancing our stories in ways we could have never imagined. Leaving room for the illustrator is not only polite to the illustrator but a future gift to yourself when you get to open the pages of the book and see their creativity.

I have never made a choice to switch a genre of a WIP while working on it, but I have had the suggestion made to me by critique partners, my agent, and editors. I have a few manuscripts written with an older voice and the suggestion of MG has been tossed my way, but at this moment, I am just not ready to tackle that many words. 

Another time a suggestion was made was for Curlilocks and the Three Hares. This was subbed as a picture book manuscript and the marvelous, Michele McAvoy at The Little Press had a vision for it as an early reader in their Modern Fairy-Tale Series. After chatting with Michele and hearing more about the series I decided to give it a go and luckily, it did the trick and Curlilocks and the Three Hares with illustrations by Svetla Radivoeva is now out in the world for kids and families to enjoy!

THE WORLD OF PUBLISHING PRE-PUBLISHED – AGENTS, QUERYING, SUBMISSIONS, RESOURCES

Tell us about your pre-publication journey! Starting back at query trenches/early submissions. When did you begin your professional journey?

I began approaching my writing seriously in 2020. COVID had just hit, and I found myself on leave from work, parenting three young kids who were doing remote schooling. While this was a crazy time and incredibly busy in its own right, I discovered that not being in the classroom gave me the mental capacity I had been lacking to research the writing industry and start to put the legwork into learning the craft and business of publishing.

I began with Twitter kidlit contests which is where I met so many wonderful critique partners and learned so much about myself as a writer and what I wanted to say. It was through these contests that I discovered my voice.

My time in the query trenches was short. I queried one story, which sadly has yet to make it to the published page, to about 15 agents with no bites. Then, my current agent, Dan Cramer, posted a query critique giveaway opportunity that I happened to win. I sent Dan my query and was delighted when along with his feedback, he also offered to read the manuscript. I sent that story off as quickly as I could and was amazed to hear back from Dan with an offer of representation. 

While I know my experience was brief and not typical, I always encourage authors to take any and every opportunity for which they have the bandwidth. You can’t count on an experience like this happening, but if you don’t put yourself out there, you are ensuring it doesn’t happen.

-Yes. So true!

“I always encourage authors to take any and every opportunity for which they have the bandwidth… if you don’t put yourself out there, you are ensuring it doesn’t happen.”

Are you currently agented and were you currently agented for your first book deal?

Yes, I am currently agented.  Dan Cramer of Page Turner Literary is still my agent, and we have been partnered together for all three of my book sales. 

What was your agent experience like for that first book deal? And which book was it? 

The first book deal with Dan was wonderful. We sold Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea to Page Street Kids. At that time I was such a newbie, and Dan made me feel at ease asking ALL of the questions. He took time to answer them and walked me through the process in a way that helped me understand this new and foreign side of publishing that I knew absolutely nothing about. 

Dan has been my one and only agent. As my agent he researches publishing houses and editors in search of the perfect match for my manuscripts. He handles all negotiations related to our book deals and deals with the communication with the editor at the beginning of the process. 

Were there any resources (writing organizations, contests, communities, etc) that were especially helpful in getting you to where you are today, that you’d like to share with aspiring traditional, hybrid, or independent kidlit authors or illustrators reading today?

Fall Writing Frenzy, Vivian Kirkfield’s 50 Precious Words, and Halloweensie are the contests that introduced me to the kidlit community and it is through them that I found a sense of belonging in this industry. 

I did join SCBWI early on as well and while I was not the best at accessing all they had to offer, I was able to connect with 2 of my first critique groups as a result. 

Also helpful to me along the way were fast drafting events such as First Draft Friday with Hollie Wolverton and Mindy Alyse Weiss’ PBParty Critique Train. Both of these events help motivate me to get new words on the page which can be hard to do with a fulltime job and family. 

-Fantastic resources, Andrew. Thanks for sharing!

THE WORLD OF PUBLISHING-POST PUBLISHED- BOOK DEALS, AUTHOR EVENTS, PROMOTION, CONNECTIONS

From the time you started pursuing publication, about how long was your journey to your first published work- and how did that feel? 

It was a four year process from my first draft of my first book until its publication. And while four years is no short time, I completely recognize the years and years that many creators invest before finding the success they are looking for and I feel incredibly fortunate for where I am today. 

We're so glad you are where you are today too, Andrew! 

For some of our ones just starting to enter this arena, and could use some tips on where to start... could you share some details about your author visits? 
What activities do you provide- if any other than a basic read-aloud?
What kind of visits to you offer- virtual, in person, or both? 
About how long is your average visit?
What venues do you visit- bookstores/schools/libraries?
And who schedules the visits- do you contact places directly, do they contact you directly, or is this something handled by your publisher/agent?

With three books releasing this past spring I made a concerted effort starting back in the summer and fall of 2023 to begin lining up author visits. 

-Smart planning and foresight!

For the most part these have all been organized by me through contacting bookstores, libraries, and schools. There are some publishing houses who will support and assist in booking events, I just happened to choose to take the responsibility on myself. 

Bookstore and library visits often last 45 minutes to an hour and include an introduction to the book, reading, a craft/related activity, and then conclude with a signing. My best advice here is to have existing relationships with these places. Long before you have a book out be a patron of your local libraries and indie bookstores. Support events that they have and learn what they have to offer as a result of attending. It is always easier for someone to book you for an event when they have seen you be supportive of others. 

My offerings for school visits are a bit different. I book anything from single workshops to half days to whole days, and these can all be virtual or in person. 

On my website I have a menu of workshop offerings that a school can choose from. These range from a traditional journey to publication to hands-on workshops on a variety of topics including brainstorming, fairytale writing, poetry, and character design. 

-I love the range in variety. What a great way to accommodate different needs and interests.

I prefer to work with groups of one to two classes where we can be interactive and create together rather than them just listening to me.  

Being a debut author this year, I found more success in booking author visits when I approached schools with whom I already had a relationship. I also applied and received multiple Cultural Council grants which helped fund a number of local visits. 

-What a great idea!

Okay, so what’s your favorite part of the visit and why?

My favorite part of school visits is seeing students become inspired! It is the most amazing feeling to know that your presence and your words have sparked creativity and enthusiasm in them. As authors we know that jolt of excitement we get with a shiny new idea and it's such a privilege to be able to create that for kids. 

The other part I love about school visits is being able to reach such a large number of kids in such a short amount of time. I'm used to having an impact on my class of 24 second-graders. This spring alone I've met 100s of kids in K-5 from all sorts of diverse backgrounds. 

-Love this!

“My favorite part of school visits is seeing students become inspired! …As authors we know that jolt of excitement we get with a shiny new idea and it’s such a privilege to be able to create that for kids.”

Let’s talk a little about promotion. For newly debuting authors who may not yet have an author and/or illustrator platform built for themselves… where do you recommend starting? Do you have any tips on making connections in the kidlit community as well as your local community?

My biggest advice here is if you go into this industry with altruistic intentions you will receive way more than you bargained for in return. Make connections with creators, support their work, and offer to help each other, but do it all for the sake of connecting on a genuine level with another creator with no expectations of anything in return. 

I recommend starting locally. Make a habit of attending author events at your local bookstore and library. Introduce yourself to the workers and guests (I know it feels scary!). Be open that you are an author. You will begin building relationships with these people and before you know it they will be calling you by name. Then when it is your time for books to come out, they will be excited to celebrate with you and support you in any way they can. 

-This is such great advice. Yes! 

For authors or illustrators who may be early on in their publishing journey… what words of encouragement would you like to share?

If you haven’t heard already, this industry moves at a glacial pace and there is no way to do it (that I have found) without a healthy heaping of rejection. Enter this path knowing these two facts and make choices that make the journey enjoyable. This includes finding your people who uplift and support you as well as learning how you best tackle the highs and lows associated with this career.

“…if you go into this industry with altruistic intentions you will receive way more than you bargained for in return. Make connections with creators, support their work, and offer to help each other, but do it all for the sake of connecting on a genuine level with another creator with no expectations of anything in return.”

“Make a habit of attending author events at your local bookstore and library. Introduce yourself to the workers and guests… Be open that you are an author. You will begin building relationships with these people… Then when it is your time for books to come out, they will be excited to celebrate with you and support you in any way they can.”

BOOKS + RESOURCES + FINAL WORDS OF WISDOM

Okay, we’ve arrived at arguably my favorite part of the interview… and that’s the part where we talk books! I’d love to hear about your stories. What was the inspiration for them? What are your favorite spreads/illustrations and what do you love most about them? And maybe hear a brief description of what each book is about. 

Gush over my book babies? I’d love to! I am so fortunate to have had three books release this year and I love each one and am grateful for the editors, illustrators and countless others behind the scenes that helped bring them to life. 

My first book, OLLIE, THE ACORN, AND THE MIGHTY IDEA (Pagestreet Kids) with illustrations by Kaz Windness follows amateur gardener, Ollie Alexander Kandersteen, a boy with a name bigger than he is, as he goes on an absurd and fantastical journey to be as big as a tree in order to stand up to his bully, Everett Lucas Montgomery. Ollie was inspired by my own feelings of smallness as a child, coupled with a summertime discussion with my children about the consequences of swallowing a watermelon seed. I love Ollie because it is a read-aloud through and through. There are refrains for kids to join in with, onomatopoeia, and unexpected antics that cause readers’ mouths to hit the floor. 

Ollie has had a quiet reception in the kidlit world, but I am hoping to spread the word to teachers, parents, and librarians to get this humorous book, with a healthy heaping of SEL and messages of acceptance, into as many hands as possible.
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My second book, CURLILOCKS AND THE THREE HARES (The Little Press) with illustrations by Jan Dolby follows are title character as she ventures into the Three Hares hair salon in order to take her hair into her own hands and find her just right do’ before picture day. As you can imagine, messes and mistakes ensue before our 3 hares return to find their intruder and her unruly hair. Curlilocks was inspired by my daughter and her dislike for her curls when she was younger. This story is an early, illustrated, chapter book just right for beginning readers to grow their skills and independence. 
Last up is HOPE AND THE SEA (WorthyKids) with illustrations by Svetla Radivoeva. This story follows a young girl, Hope, who is having big feelings of loneliness at the beach. It doesn’t take long for Sea to notice and extend a wave and a welcoming embrace to help Hope on her way to finding friendship and belonging. This story is sweet and lyrical with sentence structure and rhythm to match the changing tide. I grew up by the ocean, and my love for the sea poured into this manuscript. 
Any new books and/or book deals on the horizon?

Yes! On July 9, the spooky middle-grade anthology, THE HAUNTED STATES OF AMERICA will be released from Godwin Books. This is a collection of 52 haunted short stories with one from each state, D.C., and Puerto Rico. In collaboration with SCBWI, Godwin Books put out a call for stories. I am honored to have my story, The Tunnel, included in the anthology representing Massachusetts. 

In addition, I do have some secret news about a future publication. However, it is much too soon to discuss any details, so readers will need to stay tuned. 

-Did you hear that readers? If you don’t wanna miss out… you should probably *ahem* subscribe to Andrew’s newsletter HERE…  (find email subscription box at the bottom of the page at the link listed).
Okay, so I’ll start by saying that I love, love, love your website. I could get lost all day in the fun educational things you have going on over there. For our readers who may not know (yet) about all the resources you have… could you enlighten us to what you offer on the Educator Resources tab?

*Snippet of Andrew's offerings below...*
Thank you for the kind words about my website. I created it a few years ago using Wix, and then I hired the incredible Molly Ippy, to spruce up the design to make it more professional and cohesive, which she nailed. I cannot recommend her services enough, so if you are in need of a website facelift or educational resources don’t hesitate in reaching out to Molly.
Check out her offerings HERE. 

Many of the resources on my website come from my years of teaching and designing curriculum. Much of it is science and engineering based and gives educators a starting place to get their students creating and engaging with science in a hands-on manner.

I do have resources for some of my published books and those will be found under the books tab on my website. 

-Download Andrew's FREE educational guide and coloring page for Curlilocks and the Three Hares and/or activity page for Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea on Teacher Corner TODAY!-

Speaking of resources… you don’t just have resources for parents, kids, and educators… you also offer resources for writers, in way of your literary blog, where, just like I’m doing today- you host fellow authors on your blog and talk about the “behind the scenes.” When did you start doing this? And what do you hope readers will gain?

I began The Backstory in 2021. It felt like authors who were gaining traction in the industry had a writing-related side gig going on. I don’t think this is necessarily true, but at that time that was my perspective. When I sat down to brainstorm what I could offer the writing community I landed on my love of learning the inspiration behind things. 

-I can definitely relate to that love!

At first my intention was to provide fledgling authors a place to learn about the process and the opportunity to win critiques and AMA calls from published authors. What I didn’t realize at the time was the service I was providing for those published authors of being part of their marketing and promotion.

-Right?! It's so exciting to be a part of that! 

Running the blog has provided me a tremendous amount of inspiration and has helped me build my relationships and connections with other authors. 

I hope readers can glean little tidbits of knowledge that either encourage, educate, and inspire them along their path to publication. 

- I completely echo this. It's so inspiring to talk with other creatives. The interchange of encouragement by way of shared experiences is indescribably valuable. And the connections made are so rewarding.

Any final words of wisdom that you’d like to share with our readers today?

I know this is not new advice, but it is a tidbit I come back to often. When you sit down to write, write for yourself. Don’t stress over rules. Don’t stress over the market. Don’t stress trying to write the manuscript you think your dream agent is looking for. Doing any or all of these things will lead you astray from who YOU are as a writer. Don’t lose yourself for someone else’s vision. Write authentically who you are in your voice. When your book gets made you will be so grateful that you represented your true self!

Such beautiful advice to end on. Thank you so much for joining us today, Andrew.

“When you sit down to write, write for yourself. Don’t stress over rules. Don’t stress over the market… Don’t lose yourself for someone else’s vision. Write authentically who you are in your voice. When your book gets made you will be so grateful that you represented your true self!”

And now…
It’s time for the GIVEAWAY!

For the month of July, Andrew Hacket is offering the following giveaway prizes to three winners- 1 prize awarded to each winner.

  • Fiction, picture book (non rhyming) manuscript critique
  • 30-minute Zoom AMA
  • Signed copy of one of my books (winner’s choice)

HOW TO ENTER THE GIVEAWAY

  • Leave a comment on this post!
  • And if you haven’t already, like this post and subscribe to the blog and/or newsletter!

That’s it!

DEADLINE TO ENTER: July 31st, 2024, 11:59 PM CST

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Andrew Hacket is the author of Ollie, the Acorn, and the Mighty Idea (Page Street Kids, 4/9/24), Curlilocks and the Three Hares (The Little Press, 5/1/24), and Hope and the Sea (Worthy Kids, 5/28/24). Andrew recognizes that being a kid is hard, and he writes to create ways for children to see themselves in stories and characters, to accept and overcome their insecurities, or to escape for just a little while through the power of their imaginations. He and his family live in Massachusetts.

MAY 1ST, 2024, FEATURE INTERVIEW WITH CHILDREN’S BOOK AUTHOR AND EDUCATOR CHRISTINA DANKERT, CONDUCTED BY KIDLIT WRITER, BLOGGER & LIBRARIAN CHELSEA DICICCO

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It’s the first day of May- and the first Wednesday of the month, which means I’m welcoming another guest onto the blog. Put your hands together for children’s book author and educator Christina Dankert.

Before I jump into our interview, though- if this is your first time visiting my blog or the feature interview segments, welcome! I’m glad you’re here, and I hope you’ll visit again. To give you an idea of what’s in store, here’s a brief overview of what feature interviews are all about and why they’re so valuable.

WHAT ARE FEATURE INTERVIEWS AND WHY ARE THEY SO GREAT?

In a nutshell, here’s what a “feature interview” is. Every month, I sit down with literary professionals –authors, illustrators, editors, and agents– at all stages of their careers- from newly debuting to well-established, seasoned best sellers- and we discuss all things kidlit publishing. (Many of my guests are also former or current educators and librarians!)

These interviews are a great resource for kidlit writers and illustrators no matter where they are in their journey. Not only do they offer current information on market trends, but they also give readers an up close & personal look at the world of publishing from a diverse collection of creators and perspectives.

Here’s a list of just a few of the helpful things we discuss:

  • Where to find both FREE and PAID for writing memberships, craft workshops, contests, and other resources
  • How to query agents and editors and what they’re looking for
  • Where to find kidlit community and support from other writers or illustrators
  • Diversity, empathy, and kindness in kidlit and why it matters
  • How to improve your skills and set goals
  • Writing across genres
  • How to deal with setbacks/disappointments and WAITING
  • Helpful tips and suggestions for aspiring authors and illustrators
  • Pros and cons of small publishers, hybrid (or indie) publishing, and being agented vs. unagented
  • What to do after you sign with your first agent – and/or make your first book deal
  • How to promote your books as a debuting author or illustrator
  • Behind the scenes of hosting author events- library/school visits
  • How to get your books into bookstores & schools
  • And, of course- during each feature interview segment- we share new publishing deals & host giveaway prizes for our readers!!! ** Giveaway PRIZES and instructions on HOW to enter are listed at the bottom of each interview**

Not that we’ve shared a little about what’s in store… it’s time to jump into our interview!

INTRODUCTION: HOW IT ALL STARTED… AND CLASSROOMS

Christina, thank you so much for joining us today. We’re thrilled to have you here. The first thing I love asking my guests is where they began. Can you tell us when and how your journey to kidlit started? What were the motivating factors that led you to publishing? And where did your entry into the world first take root?

Thank you for having me! I find your author interviews very helpful and motivating, and I am honored to share part of my story. My kidlit author journey started as a Covid silver lining. I stepped away from my teaching position for a year, focused on my family, and had the opportunity to make writing a priority. Instead of writing lesson plans, prepping, and grading, I used that time to write and attend virtual conferences and writing sessions. 

Have you always been a literature lover and fan of writing?

I loved reading as a child. I grew up with parents who valued reading. My mom took my sister and me to the public library frequently. I had teachers in high school who caused me to greatly dislike reading. I hated being told what I had to read and often found mandatory text boring or confusing. I went to college and had a roommate who was an English major. She traveled with a floor-to-ceiling bookshelf in each of her apartments. She would highlight books she thought I’d be interested in and I began to read for pleasure. When I had my own children, I read to them but didn’t have the time or energy for my own reading. I missed it. I made a goal to read four pages a night. FOUR PAGES! A habit was formed, and now I enjoy reading and listening to books through audiobooks as much as possible.
 
I know you’re a second-grade teacher. Has your teaching experience influenced your desire to publish books?

Absolutely! As a teacher, I take my read-alouds very seriously. As a mom of two and a teacher, I read a lot of picture books. There are so many beautiful and meaningful books. Since I only have 180 school days, I try to pick the best of the best. 

Books that will:
* help teach academic content
*that will allow for discussions and celebrations of cultures and diversity
*books that help explore feelings/emotions and provide strategies
*and books that simply make us laugh and are meant to entertain us while building a love for reading 

As a mom and teacher, I know that kindness is very important. I want my children and students to be kind humans to each other and to themselves. Kindness ended up being the focus of my first picture book. 

What do your students think about the fact that their teacher is also an author? Do they think, “Wow, my teacher is SO cool! She writes books!” (I know I would have thought it was the coolest thing ever.)

They do think it is exciting! But the best part is, they are inspired to write their own stories! I have students create their own stories, outside of pieces we are working on, that they illustrated or that they work together with a friend at recess or at home. Each week, students share their stories with the class, and our basket of published books keeps growing. 

I love it when students complain about how hard writing is. It allows me to pause and tell them how many times I had to reread The Kindness Machine and how many times it was edited. This allows them to see that it is okay if it’s hard, but perseverance is key. 

That must be an AMAZING feeling, to see your students inspired to create and try- try again. Speaking of inspired to create... Do you ever do any creative writing assignments with your second graders? 

This year, we are creating a writing portfolio. Each quarter, students add a few pieces of writing or typed stories. They range from narrative, opinion, and informational writing. I write a positive note to each student in their portfolio, and then they take it home to share with their families. It is returned with a positive note from home, and then we repeat the following quarter. I have seen more enthusiasm from reluctant writers because they know they get to share it at home. Boosting confidence is a huge piece of writing in 2nd grade.

“As a mom and teacher, I know that kindness is very important. I want my children and students to be kind humans to each other and to themselves.“

“I love when students complain about how hard writing is. It allows me to pause and tell them how many times I had to reread The Kindness Machine and how many times it was edited. This allows them to see that it is okay if it’s hard, but perseverance is key.“

PUBLISHING ROUTES & SUBMISSIONS

You published your debut picture book, The Kindness Machine, in 2022. Congratulations! Can you tell us about what publishing route you took? Did you go traditional or independent? Did you query agents for representation, or did you send submissions directly to the publisher? And why?

Thank you! I went with a hybrid publisher, Purple Butterfly Press, which had other published books featuring character strengths. Working collaboratively with a team was very beneficial since this was my first time publishing. The team was very patient and answered all of my questions. An added bonus was that this publisher allowed for not only manuscript submissions but illustrator samples as well. We will circle back to why that was so exciting in a minute. In the future, I would love to be traditionally published, and I am working on agent research and my query letter. 

Was it an immediate YES on the first try? Explain.

I submitted to a few publishers and heard nothing. When I submitted it to Purple Butterfly Press, I received an email about a month later stating that they were interested in my manuscript. 

Can you share some of the pros/cons of each route and what it has to offer?

There are pros and cons to each publishing route, and ultimately, you have to do what is best for you. I’d love to be published traditionally and independently to see which route I prefer. A pro for traditionally published is often a wider distribution to help get your book in the hands of readers. A pro for being independently published is that it is often a faster timeline. 

Okay, so you have your manuscript(s), and you’re ready to launch out in the world. What kind of timeframe did it take to get your first book deal- from concept to publication? 

Be sure to pack an extra suitcase of patience for this journey. We live in a fast-paced world where we are so used to instant gratification. 

My timeline was: 
Fall 2020 - wrote manuscript, peer edits/feedback. 
March 2021 - submitted manuscript to Purple Butterfly Press.
May 2021 - signed contract 
March 2022 - published 

Are you currently represented by an agent/agency? If so, who? 
Not at this point. Through the 12x12 writing community, I have learned a lot about agents and representation. I hope to one day have an agent that will help bring more books into the world.

“There are pros and cons to each publishing route, and ultimately, you have to do what is best for you. A pro for traditionally published is often a wider distribution to help get your book in the hands of readers. A pro for being independently published is that it is often a faster timeline.“

Do you have anything out on submission right now or any future projects currently in the works?

My goal for 2024 is to write multiple manuscripts and revise them. All of my manuscripts feature a positive character trait: empathy, perseverance, quality time, etc. I am proud of the writing that has happened so far this year and hope to send work out on submission in 2025.

I recently received an honorable mention for my 50 Precious Word International Writing Contest submission. That was a huge boost for my confidence and is motivating me to turn those 50 words into a full manuscript.

That is such an exciting accomplishment, Christina- congratulations!! That confidence boost is well deserved and should be celebrated.

Speaking of celebrating… I also participated in this year’s 50 Precious Words Contest and made it to the honorable mentions- so I’m celebrating with you! If any of our readers would like to see me or Christina’s 2024 50 Precious Word entries, you can view them below!

AUTHOR VISITS

I know you love doing author events. Would you tell us about some of the events you’ve done? How did you get in the doors? Did you reach out to them  (schools/libraries/bookstores/etc) or did they reach out to you? Are your visits paid, do you offer them voluntarily, or is it a mixture of both? 

I absolutely LOVE doing author visits! To read something that you have poured your heart and soul into, to your target audience is an incredible feeling. To see children get excited when you hope they do, ask amazing questions, and often tell you that they are going to be an author is very rewarding. When the book launched, I had the opportunity to read the book to each grade level at my very supportive school. I presented the book six times as I worked my way from kindergarten to fifth. I was able to try out a few different things and cater the presentations to the different age groups. 

From there, I have reached out to a few schools and been approached by local schools. At this point, the presentation is not paid but schools have an opportunity to purchase books, which my husband and I both sign. (Keep reading to find out why my husband is signing the books too!) If this was my full-time career, I would charge for the presentation, would be more willing to travel further from home and would spend a lot of time approaching school districts. Maybe someday, but right now, I look at author visits as something that brings me immense joy and is a special treat for my author heart.


“I absolutely LOVE doing author visits! To read something that you have poured your heart and soul into, to your target audience is an incredible feeling. To see children get excited when you hope they do, ask amazing questions, and often tell you that they are going to be an author is very rewarding.“

About how long do you typically stay for a visit? Can you give us a brief idea of what your format looks like? Read aloud? Q&A? Class craft or project? Etc.

A typical author visit kicks off with the importance of reading and sharing stories. I then have children look at the cover of The Kindness Machine to make a guess what it looks like under the sheet. I read the story and pause throughout to ask questions. There are little “magic questions” in the bottom right hand corner in the heart of the book that are perfect to engage listeners. I end with a Q&A and have had older students complete a kindness brainstorming activity. I also email teachers a few printables that go with the story for them to use at their convenience. Typically, the presentations are 25-40 minutes long. 

What’s your favorite part of the author visit?

My favorite part of the author visit is when I read the last page of the book. I never show the last page on the large screen until after I read the last page has only one sentence. It reads, “Now let me ask you again, who has a superpower?” Student’s hands ALWAYS shoot up when they realize that kindness is the superpower they already have.

Do you ever offer (or bring) anything special to your classroom/library/bookstore, like a signed copy of your book or something else?

I like to donate a hard copy of the book to the school’s library. 

What advice would you share with a debuting author or illustrator looking to get their foot in the door of a bookstore, library, or school for an author event? Any tips on how to go about this?

Reach out to school librarians, reading specialists, or parent clubs to see if an author visit is something their school would be interested in. Let them know what your book is about and what the presentation looks like so they can see if it would be a good fit.

“My favorite part of the author visit is when I read the last page of the book. Student’s hands ALWAYS shoot up when they realize that kindness is the superpower they already have.“

“Reach out to school librarians, reading specialists, or parent clubs to see if an author visit is something their school would be interested in. Let them know what your book is about and what the presentation looks like so they can see if it would be a good fit.”

OVERCOMING HURDLES & FINDING COMMUNITY

What were some of the hurdles you faced early on and maybe even later during the publishing process? And how were you able to overcome them? Explain.

Waiting is very challenging, but it is part of the process. I received excellent writing advice from a writer friend. She suggested that once you submit something and you are waiting, start working on something else. It might be another manuscript, but it might also be a blog post, application for author event, magazine article, etc. Keep working on your craft so that you continue to get better and keep your mind busy during the waiting portion on this journey. 

Speaking of hurdles… one thing I’ve found to be true is the value of building connections among the writing community. They make the hardships so much more bearable and at times, they can make the difference in sticking it out until the end. Can you tell us about your experience in forging friendships among the writing community?

The kidlit community is truly incredible. Finding other authors is key. Oftentimes your family and friends will be incredible cheerleaders for you. However, you need other writers to understand your frustrations, help with accountability and celebrate even the littlest of wins. It was through a virtual writing conference in 2021 that I connected with incredible writers. We get together a few times a month via Zoom to ask questions, share work and receive feedback and then spend time writing. 

Where did you go to find your writing community and what suggestions do you have for other writers or illustrators looking to branch out in this area?

As I mentioned, I was fortunate enough to click with writers during a virtual conference. However, reach out to your library, check to see if there are local writing groups or feel free to start your own with like minded people. 

Are there any writing organizations, groups, podcasts, or websites that you recommend checking out?

I find the 12x12 Writing Challenge to be a very supportive community, it is where you and I first crossed paths. I appreciate the thoughtful monthly webinars and active Facebook group to ask questions and support one another.

“The kidlit community is truly incredible. Finding other authors is key. Oftentimes your family and friends will be incredible cheerleaders for you. However, you need other writers to understand your frustrations, help with accountability and celebrate even the littlest of wins.“

“I find the 12×12 Writing Challenge to be a very supportive community, it is where you and I first crossed paths. I appreciate the thoughtful monthly webinars and active Facebook group to ask questions and support one another.“

BOOKISH THINGS

Moving on to bookish things! Can you tell us about the illustrations in your story, The Kindness Machine? Did you have any say or contribution in the artwork, or was it a complete surprise? Were they what you imagined they’d be? Explain.

Ah ha! I am so excited to share that my husband, Chad, was the illustrator for The Kindness Machine! Before we were married, I told him we should merge our two professions of teacher and artist into a picture book. 14 years later and here we are! It was honestly a joy to collaborate with Chad. He knows me so well and was able to bring the story to life. Working with a hybrid publisher, we had the opportunity to pitch both the manuscript and illustration samples and they both were accepted. We spent many nights on the couch or at the dinner table after the kids went to bed, talking about illustrations as he sketched on his i-Pad. He was able to add in extra details such as the teacher looking like my best friend, adding a Free Little Library to the sketches and items from my classroom, such as a fish tank. Chad exceeded my expectations and it is something we are both very proud to have collaborated on. 
Let’s talk about “the moment.” “The moment” being… the first time you saw and held your book in your hands. What were your feelings and thoughts?

It really is a big deal! I remember holding the sample copy and just smiling. Our own children saw it and my son said, “Wait! It’s out!?” It was very special reading the actual book to them that night at bedtime. 

The Kindness Machine has such a wonderful message. Can you tell us about the story?

The Kindness Machine takes place in a second grade classroom with a teacher, Mr. Wilson, who is known for creating fun gadgets and gizmos. One day he brings a kindness machine to school and students have the opportunity to push different buttons to learn ways to be kind not only to others but also to themselves. In the end, students realize that they each have their own kindness machine inside them to help spread kindness wherever they go. 
In your own words, can you share your inspiration for writing this book and how you hope it will leave your readers feeling?

As a mom and a teacher, we truly want all of our children and students to be kind. My hope is that the readers and listeners are reminded that kindness is not complicated. We can spread kindness through simple actions. The idea of self-love and kindness to ourselves is something that even adults struggle with. My goal is that if we start sharing this idea of loving ourselves early, we can help lay a solid foundation for self-love. I also secretly hope that the adults reading the books get a gentle reminder to not be so hard on themselves. 

What has the reaction/response been from readers? Have you had any special moments that you’d like to share?

The response has been great! I love when former students tell me they read the book AGAIN before bedtime or that a teacher checked it out from the library for their class. A high school senior, who I did not know, used The Kindness Machine for a huge project. He had to create a display, read the book to a class, and create an activity to go with the book. One school counselor read the book to 17 classes and created an entire school wall with pieces from the story that they worked on together. It was so amazing to really feel the kindness ripple that has happened from publishing. 

Any advice for authors and/or illustrators who are looking into breaking into the kidlit market?

Read! Read everything you can in your kidlit theme that is already out and figure out what is missing that you can add. I read over 50 books about kindness, but only one included kindness to ourselves, which is why I included that in my book. Connect with other writers and carve out time to write. 

Okay, we’ve done the nitty-gritty portion. Now, let’s move on to a few fun favorites.

Favorite color? 
Red 

Favorite animal? 
Panda 

Favorite vacation destination? 
The beach! 

Favorite dessert/snack? 
Dark chocolate, donuts

Favorite book(s)?
Too many to list!

“As a mom and a teacher, we truly want all of our children and students to be kind. My hope is that the readers and listeners are reminded that kindness is not complicated. We can spread kindness through simple actions.“

“The idea of self-love and kindness to ourselves is something that even adults struggle with. My goal is that if we start sharing this idea of loving ourselves early, we can help lay a solid foundation for self-love. I also hope that the adults reading the books get a gentle reminder to not be so hard on themselves.“

Any last pieces of advice or words of wisdom that you’d like to share with our readers today?

Be patient. Trust yourself. Remember that you have a story to tell and that your words matter. Write on. 

Thank you, Christina, for spending time with us today. We appreciate you and everything you’ve done to share your kindness with the world.

But don’t hurry off just yet…
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Christina Dankert is a children’s book author, second-grade teacher, and literacy enthusiast living in Ohio. As an educator, she believes books are a beautiful way to continue to learn and grow. She believes all children should be able to find themselves in picture books. It is through children’s literature and reading to the children in our lives that we will change the world.

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