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In today’s Feature Interview, I’m chatting with former Biology Professor, now Homeschool Mom and Children’s Book Author, Danna Zeiger. We’ll be discussing accessibility and disability awareness in kidlit, as well as how to manage major career shifts and the many hurdles they come with, and why the benefits outweigh the struggles.

Danna, it’s wonderful to have you with us! Can you tell us where you’re joining us from today?

Thank you so much for having me, Chelsea! I’m so excited to be here. I’m joining you from the Boston area.

How did you hear about Chelsea’s World of Books Literary Blog, and what made you want to apply for a guest Feature Interview?

I’ve read several of your fantastic, thorough interviews, so when I saw the application window open last year, I knew I had to try!

I was intrigued by your application, and I’m excited to learn more about your “unconventional route to publishing.” My hope in sharing your interview is to inspire others to chase their dreams- nothing is impossible if you don’t give up! So, let’s jump right in. Could you tell us about your day job before children’s publishing was in the mix?

Thanks! I was a biology professor and the program director for the biology bachelor’s degree at a local college. I had been in the unique position to create the program before running it for seven years. I come from an immigrant family myself, so it was especially fulfilling to serve disadvantaged and first-in-the-family students from diverse backgrounds. I taught lectures and labs from first-year biology (or non-major!) students all the way through the senior thesis course for my seniors. I helped them secure solid internships and got them ready for the world. I partnered with neighboring institutions and universities to create interesting lecture series or research opportunities. I advised dozens of students through their college experience, ensuring they made some good choices and shepherding those who were graduate school bound. My students often had one–or three!–full-time jobs on the side to get themselves through college, so there was also lots of time spent counseling students, helping them manage all of their responsibilities, and working creatively to make it happen, as well as drawing out challenging biology pathways on my whiteboard in my office during office hours. I served on college committees, worked on new course and degree development, and overall had a full and busy life as a professor.

Now enter the *spark* that started it all. What was that beginning spark for you that made you take the leap in shifting careers from Biology Professor to Homeschool Mom and Children’s Book Author?

When COVID hit, I resigned from my position, much to the shock of many people in my professional, friend, and family circles. But with a newborn baby who needed a lot of caretaking (and no nannies to be found at the time), a preschooler for whom Zoom school did not work, and a sobbing elementary school child frustrated with online learning, plus immunocompromised people at home and not enough remote work support, it simply was not possible for me to stay in my position. 

I started homeschooling all three kiddos and was devouring hundreds of books, reading each month with them.

One day, while running a writing exercise for the kiddos after reading Chris Van Dusen’s If I Built a House, I had an idea for a picture book.

I should mention that, in addition to being a perpetual bookworm, I have always been a creative writer, naturally gravitating towards poetry and literature since I was a young kid, writing poems in multiple languages, and finding creative outlets my whole life. So it was well within my bucket list to one day become an author, especially a children’s book author. I just always thought that day was long in the future.

When I told my husband my picture book idea that “someone” should write, he responded with, “yes, you should.” I was shocked at first, but dove into what it took to become a traditionally published children’s book author, thanks to my dear friend who happened to be personally connected to Chana Stiefel (what an author giant to get to know!!!), and Chana kindly, generously offered both feedback and guidance on what it takes. While our mutual friend, who was initially mildly interested in what Chana might say, pretty much ran away screaming, Chana’s long list of hard work felt exciting and fascinating to me. And that is how I knew it was worth pursuing!

I give my husband a lot of credit, both for initially encouraging me to try it and then continuing to remind me that I must invest in myself and take myself seriously as an author if I want to become one. I took classes, joined critique groups, and carved out time from our busy homeschooling schedule.

-Amazing! We love hearing about supportive husbands. I am thankful enough to have one of those myself! They can really help boost your courage and belief in yourself.

Tell us about that beginning time. What were your thoughts? I’m guessing it was a mixture of scary and exciting- all the best things in life are. 🙂

It was a really exciting time! For me, the scariest part had already happened–leaving my job. I did worry about striking a balance between homeschool and writing, but my kids were my cheerleaders from day one, and I was able to take it for myself without them feeling it. 

This was an exciting new prospect, but I definitely had imposter syndrome. Did I have what it took? I was a biology professor–what made me think I could write creatively, professionally? I hadn’t been an English major (although I loved my English classes and had taken AP Creative Writing!), so I had real concerns!

It was a steep learning curve: learning how the industry worked, learning to critique and receive feedback, finding groups and critique partners, the writing and publishing organizations. What was an imprint vs. a publisher vs. an editor? I truly have a whole bookshelf with publishing books I’ve read (in addition to the library ones I borrowed) in order to figure all of this out.

I quickly realized I should not submit to publishers alone and that I needed an agent. I did the thing you’re not supposed to do and queried with my very first manuscript! It did land me an agent, thankfully, but it did not land me a book deal… yet. Hooks, saleability, and the business side of publishing matters… I still had a lot to learn!

What were/are some of the hurdles that you’ve had to overcome, and how have you been able to do so?

I think publishing is mostly full of hurdles, a lot of luck, with a few spotlights of wins, LOL! I probably carry some intensity from my academic career with me, and I’m not afraid of hard work. So I try to throw everything I’ve got into this basket and push past the challenges!

Personally, it was challenging to carve out enough time for myself, so I had to get creative. Nap time? Quick, read through a new manuscript. Sitting with the kids at their activity, like gymnastics or dance? I had a critique partner’s manuscript queued up to read and comment on. Bedtime for kiddos? Yes, I loved writing so much that instead of watching TV, I would plow away at my manuscripts.

In terms of publishing, I wished for an agent so badly. I was fortunate to find one pretty quickly, and she is a great agent who makes awesome deals. However, I quickly learned that as an author, I needed more communication from my agent, so I voluntarily thrust myself back into the trenches. Luckily, I got another agent quickly again–and this time, this was a career match! Jonathan got me my first book deal and was a great support. Sadly, he decided to leave agenting (another hurdle), but my agency stepped in and had my back. A new agent absorbed some of his old clients, and my current and hopefully forever agent, Gaby Cabezut, read my work and decided to take me on! Exceptional luck, I know.

There are so many hurdles still to overcome. I have loads of ideas and work on many projects. Trying to assess which are the most marketable with the most hooks is tough. Bringing a manuscript to the true polished state–giving it time (another hurdle!) and reading it with new eyes is also tough. I’m also always trying to diversify my portfolio and write in new genres and categories. 

Have there been any organizations/contests/resources/people who have helped you stay positive and motivated to continue pursuing this path?

Oh, yes! Apologies in advance for this long answer, and even bigger apologies for anyone I might inadvertently leave out–but the kidlit community is so supportive, and I have had so much help along the way.

I mentioned Chana Stiefel–she will forever be my very first critique and serious foray into children’s book publishing.

I joined Storyteller Academy, and the very first editor I listened to was this animated, articulate, smart STEM editor! I learned a lot from her one session. Ironically, she–Carol Hinz–became my first editor years later! I wisely did not submit any manuscript at the time, despite the submission opportunity, because I intuited that my work was just not good enough yet for such a sharp reader. And I can say now that I was right!

I joined SCBWI and attended virtual conferences. I joined Facebook groups, and critique groups kindly welcomed me. Thanks to Covid, everything was online, so local groups were open to someone who geographically lived even an hour away. Thanks forever to so many critique partners who welcomed me into already established groups comprising phenomenal members. 

I’ve tried various things. I’m grateful to Inked Voices for many opportunities and workshops, from which I’ve also learned so much!

But way back when I started, and had only just become agented, I still felt pretty unsure of myself. I entered my very first writing contest in my entire life: Vivian Kirkfield’s famous 50 Precious Words Contest. I’m not sure if she and the judges will ever fully understand what they did for me, but placing 5th out of 750 strong writers, judged by real authors, with incredible, real prizes to boot, was my very first sign that I might not be insane for trying this writing endeavor! I won an invaluable critique by editor Thalia Leaf, who offered me essential insight I continue to carry. I continued on with other contests, including Kaitlyn Sanchez and Ciara O’Neal’s Spring Fling Contest, where I placed first and won a critique with the amazing Alyssa Henkin. Alyssa’s feedback helped me bring my debut book’s manuscript closer to the finish line, and I’m forever grateful. I’m also grateful to Lynne Marie and her Rate Your Story Contest, where I won first place, and she continues to support my work. Other contests and wins have been great, too–like Susanna Leonard Hill’s Holiday Contest. There are so many amazing opportunities! And so, so many kidlit people stepped up as my debut launched to host me for interviews, celebrate my cover reveals or launch, or promote me in any way possible!

And I would be extremely remiss not to mention PJ Library. If Vivian Kirkfield’s contest was the first to make me feel like I might be able to hack writing, PJ Library was the first organization to award me a monetary prize and sponsor me, in-person, into a tight community I continue to love today. PJ Library sent me to the Highlights Foundation Retreat Center for the most transformative experience with twenty other Jewish authors I’m still in touch with. This incredible group has been critical through the last two years and soaring antisemitism, as well as personally, as my dad passed away, or when my kids have had emergency surgery, etc. 

PJ Library also awarded me a Highlights scholarship, where I learned so much from Harold Underdown and Eileen Robinson, as well as what used to be called the Partial Author’s Incentive award for my pre-published middle grade. Finally, PJ Library also awarded me a Sephardic Stories Initiative fellowship, where I have been immersed with a new community and have been able to dive deep into stories I had tried to write a while ago, and have given more energy and oxygen to lately. As far as organizations go, I am indebted to PJ Library and will need to write them into every single acknowledgement of hopefully many books to come. They have been incredibly supportive of my writing career, and I have learned so much, networked, met many people, found communities, and grown as a writer, all thanks to them.

-So many fantastic community resources and groups you mentioned here, Danna! Thank you for all the shoutouts. I am familiar with all of the above-mentioned groups/contests and could not speak more highly of their positive impact!

Looking back, would you say that the benefits outweigh the struggles? Why or why not?

Absolutely! Publishing is a long hill to climb, but the views sure are breathtaking. I truly feel like I am living my dream.

For readers who may be early on in their publishing career stages (pre-pubbed/pre-agented), could you share a bit about your process… querying, rejections, timeframe, etc?

The best advice I can give people early on is to do more of three things than they think they need:

1. Read! However much you read, read more. Whatever you want to write, read more! Study the books, analyze them, find the patterns, study what is successful and what is not, form opinions about what works best, think about the openings/closings, etc.
2. Give it time! Whenever you think a manuscript is ready, put it down and pick it up again in a few weeks or more. I’m the most eager to birth every story, and I need to slow myself down.
3. Make connections! Find support networks, critique groups, attend webinars, and find every opportunity to connect with other authors, agents, editors, and publishers.

None of publishing is in any of our control. I think you have to really want it, and if you do, pour yourself into it. I’m a big fan of hard work, and it still often takes a while to pay off. But the most important piece is really the manuscript. Writing your best work, thinking about hooks and saleability, etc. The query letter itself doesn’t matter as much as the manuscript itself. And an agent doesn’t guarantee you a book sale. If you keep giving your best effort, eventually, at some point, you will reach your milestone–be it agent, book deal, or whatever.

“None of publishing is in any of our control. I think you have to really want it…” – Danna Zeiger

So, you finally land your publishing partner- AKA your literary agent! Could you tell us about how that happened? Cold query? Event? Special opportunity? Etc.

Yes! Gaby Cabezut! I mentioned above that my agent #2, Jonathan Rosen, decided to leave agenting. Gaby was newer and she looked through Jonathan’s clients’ work–and decided to offer me representation! I’m so grateful. Jonathan told me Gaby was sweet and smart, and he was so right! Every time I chat with Gaby, I come off of our Zoom with a huge smile and feeling incredibly supported. She is smart and savvy, a fantastic advocate, and gives excellent guidance. It has been an awesome ride together and I’m pretty sure now that Gaby is not only officially my longest standing agent, I hope that she will be my forever agent!

What was your agent call like, and how did you know that your agent was the right fit for you? (This is such an important piece of information for readers to know, because not EVERY agent is the RIGHT agent. So much of a positive agent/author relationship depends on the right “fit.”) What things do you find to be “green flags” in a good author/agent relationship? And what words of advice would you give to a person who’s looking for representation for their writing?

I have been lucky to have had four agent calls. The first time in the trenches, I got two offers! My second time in the trenches, I had a call with Jonathan. And luckily, Gaby didn’t make me go back into the trenches–so as part of the transfer when Jonathan left, I Zoomed with both Gaby and the president of our agency.

So from these four calls, I think the essential pieces are getting a feel for each other, feeling comfortable together, and feeling like this is a nice person, and someone who not only loves your work but will champion it. A lot of publishing, as it turns out, is relationship-building. Making sure you are kind and that the other person is kind. I think sometimes either might need grace, and allowing space and that grace as life necessitates, is key. And also, that communication styles match. I learned with my first agent that communication is really important to me.

“I think the essential pieces are getting a feel for each other, feeling comfortable together, and feeling like this is a nice person, and someone who not only loves your work but will champion it.” – Danna Zeiger

For others who may be setting out on the same (or a similar) journey as yours, what are some words of encouragement that you’d like to share about identity shifts and major career shifts?

Major career shifts are hard, especially when you like your previous career. I think allowing a grieving period is natural and okay–I certainly took one. For me, I felt like I didn’t have a choice. Zoom wasn’t going to change my infant’s diaper or feed him, or develop my preschooler, and my oldest child needed guidance. I think, just like in children’s books, having agency makes a big difference. Since I didn’t feel like I had a choice, it took me some time to accept the situation. Luckily, I was able to dive into homeschooling, and I really loved it.

What has saved me, though, is that at the end of the day, my overarching net emotion is that I feel grateful for these immense privileges. It is a privilege to be able to homeschool–I certainly recognize that. And, it is equally a privilege to have the opportunity to pursue this dream of becoming a children’s book author. Giving space for the grief and all of the messy feelings has also allowed me to process and find both perspective and gratitude.

So, for those setting out on major career shifts: be patient with yourself! Feel the feelings! And, follow your passions. No matter where the road ends, the journey will be fulfilling.

-Love this advice! So true!

“So, for those setting out on major career shifts: be patient with yourself! Feel the feelings! And, follow your passions. No matter where the road ends, the journey will be fulfilling.” – Danna Zeiger

You mentioned in your application how important disability awareness is for kids and gatekeepers. Could you speak more to this?

I hope kids take away from my book how to approach people with disabilities in their future—as people. Our world is rife with ableism, stereotyping, and hurtful assumptions. They can cause physical pain, even as Dr. Kathleen Friel experiences when well-meaning strangers try to grab her when they think she needs help. She has needed to go to the ER from these well-meaning strangers!

Speaking of disability awareness, I know that you have a lot of great information on this in your book. Could you tell us more about that?

Yes! The book itself shows how Dr. Friel has had to educate so many classmates, labmates, and even doctors about cerebral palsy–and how exhausting that advocacy work is. The book also makes clear how Dr. Friel is able to find her own way to do certain tasks, but also that it is often much harder for her. The back matter offers more information about all of these subjects, as well as how Dr. Friel herself is an amazing and award-winning advocate. I actually have a teacher’s guide that anyone can download.

What is your big “why” or motivation for writing for kids? What does it bring you, and what do you hope it will bring your readers?

Kids are the keys to our future world. Kids are the future. I believe that the best way to fix our world is by reaching kids and building our stronger future, today.

My lifelong mission has always been to make STEM accessible and to bring underrepresented stories to the forefront. I’ve simply shifted from doing this as a college professor to a children’s book author, and hopefully I can reach a wider audience.

We’ve touched on your writing and its inspiration, but I’d love to hear more about your homeschooling journey and the resources that you offer. Could you shed some light on this for our readers?

When COVID hit, parents everywhere were bewildered, overwhelmed, and exhausted. Truly, my youngest baby was not held, changed, or comforted by any hands other than mine and my husband’s for a year and a half!! It was rough. I quickly started trying to channel some of my college teaching into my kids and trying to think of exciting activities, experiments,and STEM projects. I posted about them on my personal social media (while I don’t always love social media today, the connection it offered during Covid was so helpful!) and started getting questions from fellow bewildered parents. 

After plenty of answers, I decided to catalog our journey and share the resources with other parents, too, which ultimately became @DrZatHome.  

I wanted the @DrZatHome platform specifically to be free, and even as it grew, I continued to decline any paid sponsorships. I’m glad I did! Every recommendation I made, I truly made with a whole heart. I also felt a lot of freedom to post when I wanted, and about content that I felt passionate about. And, when my writing started to pick up, I felt no qualms about pausing for a bit.

What have been some of the responses you’ve received to your books and/or homeschool resources from parents/educators/kids?

In terms of homeschool resources I’ve shared, the pandemic was a critical point where many parents felt alone and ill-equipped to suddenly entertain, educate, and occupy all of their kids’ time. I felt overwhelmed, too! Coming online and sharing my resources felt like giving and receiving virtual hugs from all parents everywhere, and the messages of appreciation (and camaraderie, and mutual overwhelm) made me emotional. Whenever anyone shared that my content helped entertain a kiddo, or better yet, that their kids learned and got excited, it really made my day.

And my book experience!! Well, this has been a heart-warming experience, to say the least, and I have witnessed how books can be both windows–as kids tell me they want to be brain researchers too, and their horror at what Kathleen has had to endure–as well as mirrors. Various kids with disabilities, including cerebral palsy, or simply identified as disability advocates, have chatted with me and bought my book at book festivals or author events.

Have you been able to attend/participate in any local in-person/virtual author events? (Schools, libraries, book stores, etc?) If so, we’d love to hear about them and see some pictures if you have them!

Yes! I’ve done quite a few! In-person, I have had:
-A bookstore launch
-Several library and school events
-A book festival
-Signings in various bookstores
-An author talk hosted by No Place for Hate, the Waquoit Congregational Church, the Jewish Congregation of Falmouth, and Eight Cousins Bookstore, and
-A panel presentation and author signing at NCTE

My book was also featured in the Closing General Session at the 2025 American Academy for Cerebral Palsy and Developmental Medicine meeting!

I also had a blog tour, thanks to the incredible kidlit community–yourself included! You can find all of my interviews on my website. What a massively supportive group of people and friends who come out in droves to cheer side-by-side! Thank you for all that you and others do!

I’ve had two podcast interviews: one was with my amazing former agent and friend, Jonathan Rosen, who now hosts two successful podcasts.

And the second was with my dear friend, Mel Rosenberg, host of New Book Network.
Both were remarkably different yet equally fun and exciting–it felt like such a virtual hug and celebration of my book!

My book has been shared by some incredible influencers, whom I admire so much: in the homeschooling, disability, science, and mom communities. I’m so grateful for their support!

My book was also shared in the Cape Cod Times and The Enterprise.

Finally, not my own promotion work, but I’m so grateful that my book has won Best of 2025 by the Chicago Public Library, Best of 2025 by School Library Journal, and Outstanding Science Trade Books for Students K–12 2025 by the National Science Teachers’ Association. So proud of and grateful for the whole team involved in creating this book!

It has been exceptionally busy!

What is something you wish you had known about publishing earlier on?

That there are no guarantees! Even having an agent does not guarantee a book deal. So the only way forward is hard work, an open mind to feedback, and excitement over the work!

“[In publishing] there are no guarantees! …The only way forward is hard work, an open mind to feedback, and excitement over the work!” – Danna Zeiger

What’s one piece of advice that you’d like to share with other writers?

Be resourceful–read lots of books, take classes, speak to people, seek feedback. It takes all the things and a lot of work!

Any final words of wisdom or something you’d like others to know?

Make sure your story is unique and adds something new. Not all well-written stories will be made into books (this goes for myself, too!) because there are soooo many manuscripts being queried, and still a lot of competition on the shelves. In order for a book to do well at each step, it simply must stand out!

Thank you so much for spending some time with us today. We truly appreciate you and all the hard work you do to make a safe and inclusive place for kids with disabilities, and the awareness you spread with your stories. And now, it’s time for a giveaway!

GIVEAWAY

For the month of December 2025, Danna is offering one prize to one winner: a picture book critique. Non-rhyme. Fiction: up to 600 words. Non-fiction: up to 800 words.

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